Jimmy_D

This is a thread about Billy Sharp. Keep it on topic please.

That's the entire point of the WUP... because the HMRC isn't letting them build up the debt any more

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Although no one is giving it as the reason for no player sales or it all going quiet on the new owners front, I reckon that Pompey are now trapped. They obviously don't have the money on hand to pay off the taxman. (They would have already if they did.) A company with a WUP against it can't sell assets. (That's probably the reason offers have been turned down.) A company with a WUP against it can't be sold itself. (Some parties are interested according to AA, but it probably doesn't matter now. Any party would have to pay off the HMRC to try and clear out the WUP before Pompey can be sold now.) Last time the escaped by going into administration, they probably can't this time, due to the existing CVA. (Probably the reason AA is saying that Admin is the last thing they're considering this time.) Their only chance is either someone comes in and donates money to pay off the taxman before they buy, or an existing interested party (ie. Chanrai) puts money in to keep them going, or they negotiate with the courts to allow a sale to go through, although that relies on finding a buyer that's actually willing to pay out for them, or they get a temporary reprieve by negotiating with the courts to allow player sales to go through so they can pay off the tax. Pompey's main problem with all of this is that HMRC have a say in every way that can save Pompey, as they can object in court, except for a donation, or Chanrai extending more credit to them. The first of those is unlikely to say the least, the second doesn't fix anything, just gives them a delay. HMRC objective here seems to be that they want Pompey liquidated. Their actions, ie. serving the WUP as soon as they had the chance, can't be interpreted any other way, so you can be sure they would object to anything short of a solution that means they get paid everything up front, and future tax payments are secured.

I'm actually working on something along those lines atm.

Incredible. I feel this saga doesn't have long to run now.

What makes it especially unlikely that the kitman already knows the tax has been paid is that the first team manager was the last one to know it hadn't been paid.

He's probably trying to wind you up.

I couldn't find a thing either. No whispers, no rumours, nothing. I reckon it's probably just gambling on an outside possibility to try and score ITK points.

It's not quite as simple as us just gaining... WHU and Cardiff would also have a game in hand on us if Pompey's results were expunged.

Japan have improved a heck of a lot since then.

No, just that the post was deleted. OK, todays games are finished. Time to close this I think. Please try to keep it civil in future.

As I said, I'd missed that because I was replying at the time it was posted. Saint Clark has already kindly taken care of it.

No, it's not. That reply was posted while I was replying myself. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely disagree with Alpine's pessimistic opinion, but I disagree with the opinion, I don't just attack Alpine for having an opinion I don't agree with.

Easy... By all means disagree with his opinion, but there's no need to have a pop at other posters like that Simon. We're all on the same side here.

Ah well, chances are Cardiff won't finish the season with those points.

Would love the results to finish like this to be honest.

Heh, some fans complaining that Andronikou should have known what was going on with Pompey not paying tax... The two companies might be so linked that the administrator uses 'CSI' and 'Pompey' interchangably, but Pompey the football club technically aren't in administration. Yet. So it was entirely down to them, and entirely their fault that they didn't pay the tax. As for administration not being on the cards, of course it's not. They haven't even started paying the last CVA yet, no court in the land would grant the protection of a CVA under those conditions, it'll be liquidation. Endgame now, barring a last minute billionaire coming to the rescue for them and immediately paying everything off.

Looks like he's bound to improve our chances of getting promoted at any rate

Surely Andronikou's risking his fantastic reputation with the Pompey fans by claiming he's the reason for Saints being on their way to becoming a footballing powerhouse?

Does this mean we have to be (even slightly) grateful to Redknapp? :/

I agree, the original purpose of this thread, ie. to discuss a point of law, has long been lost here.

It is! I can see where Swansea's reputation for playing good football this season has come from. Blueprint for us if we go up maybe?

No. I was disagreeing with the view that Celtic being a bigger club will keep Hooper there. The entire point of the post was to point out that the relative size of the leagues could more than counteract the relative size of the clubs. Sorry if that didn't come across clearly.

Sordell maybe? West Ham seem to think they're in for him as well as us on their forum.