Edmonton Saint

Terrible. Amateur hour once more in Saints defence.

Vestergaard in for Cedric, Cedric injured in warm up. Why Ralph?

Much derided on here, but has knuckled down after his loan spell and has made the right back position his own. Also his crossing seems to be getting better and was one of the few to emerge with credit after the Bournemouth debacle.... And he scored against the Skates! Happy times.

Nice win in the end. Impressed with Cedric again, good to see the way he has buckled down and forced his way back into the team after being shipped out last season. Ings has to play in front of Adams right now.

Going to need a stream for this, as in Canada they are deeming Arsenal v Forest more worthy of showing live..

That first goal was really bad. We had 5 defenders stood marking nobody, and nobody attacking the ball. Basics from a very Basic defence.

According to Crook, Bertrand coming on at start at of 2nd.

Boo's ringing out at St.Marys at half time.

Vestergaard is a liability. Why this guy starts week in, week out is beyond me. This defeat is all on Ralph so far.

Why are we playing players out of position in an already shaky defence

Saved by VAR again.

Vestergaard really is a poor defender.

Why are we hanging on?

See Ralph, bit of pace always helps...

5 minutes gone in 2nd half still lethargic and with zero attacking ideas, and Brighton carrying more threat.

Another pathetic performance so far. We lack cohesion all over the pitch. Danso at left back is puzzling. Our defence panics whenever the ball is near them, midfield too slow and ponderous. Adams/ings/Redmond all quiet up front. Not sure what the answer is, but something has to change.

That should be a wake up call. We lack leadership so bad.

Ugh ings

Early days but this defence means we are in for another season of struggle. 2 out of 3 signings stuck on the bench and were left with the same dross that made us struggle for two years

That's why you need to take your chances . Played well and then a moment of quality from them

Another season and we are still starting premier league games with arguably the weakest centre backs in the league. The fact we have to play three at the back to try and cover their glaring deficiencies says it all. Vestergaard is 6ft 6 in but is terrible in the air. He hardly ever wins headers and his pathetic attempt at a header today led to the first goal. He is slow, cumbersome and lacks focus at key moments. He should be a beast at his height, but too often he is beaten by much smaller men who actually bother to jump. Stephens is and has always been cack. Our win record with him starting is abysmal. He lacks positional sense, is another one that can't head, tries to be too clever at times and gets caught out. It's a bit alarming that our managers keep on turning a blind eye to the goals he is conceding. They both panic under pressure and this leads to tension in the rest of the team. Centre back should have been the first position we strengthened this season, not the one we 'Strengthened' with 10 minutes left in the window.

I said this week we still have the same bunch of bottlers as before. We’re still a ****ing fragile mess with no leadership or backbone. Defence is way off standard.

Pathetic defence again. Starting with vestegaard and Stephens is asking for trouble. Not good enough at this level.

Passing in the final third has been very poor

Good to see Vestegaard still can’t win a header. Another liability