Tamesaint

This Independent Group getting together has certainly rattled Lord Pony. The b ugger keeps posting on this thread. He is like Wes Tender on speed.

The definition of Gammon. I reckon that Lord Pony is the one at the front on the extreme left of the picture.

So Corbyn wouldn't have seen the need for by elections for the Independent group in 2010. Wonder why he is changing his mind now.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/19/brexit-uk-will-apply-food-tariffs-in-case-of-no-deal-michael-gove-says? It looks as if the Brexiteers cannot even agree amongst themselves on the extent of delays that will occur at the Channel after Brexit.... but if I had to choose between Batman and Michael Gove I know who I would believe.

You are missing Watford away from that list. The difficulty with doing something like this is that form often goes out of the window as the end of the season gets nearer. Some mid table clubs develop an "on the beach " mentality and the teams at the bottom start doing rather well. Last year for example we gained points at Everton ( should have been 3) and Leicester when in mid February these were looking unlikely. Similarly WBA who looked dead and buried nearly pulled off a great escape. Although unlikely to escape relegation I reckon that Huddersfield could soon show signs of revival in the same manner. We could well benefit from this end of seasonitis. If Watford or Wolves progress further in the cup they will have more things on their mind than playing us. Watford away could be well delayed until the last couple of weeks of the season when the match will mean more to us than to them. Swansea away last season was similarly delayed. I also think that West Ham and maybe even Newcastle (if they are safe by then) will be easier than the current form table suggests. All in all therefore I think that we will do better than your average points tally above.

The comparisons with the '80's are uncanny. Labour party splitting. Derek Hatton a member of the Labour party. Car plants closing. Bin strikes. Excellent news for us . Expect to see Saints top of the league.

Lol!! He won't understand that.

How does that agree with "America first" you gullible idiot ???

Not sure about that. Who would you see as a " sound Tory ".

If you ever bothered to attend a match for the team you claim to support you could start a protest.

How about Deutsche Bank ?? Will they be able to bale out the Italians ?? They were still going the last time I looked despite your predictions. Oh sorry. I forgot . You apparently have me on ignore and cannot read the views of anyone who disagrees with your strange view of the world.

I agree with a lot of what you are saying but I think that you are forgetting that all parties want to be elected. A Tory party that reflects the views of the right wing will never get elected to government as it will look too much like a "nasty party". Howard never realised this. Hague didn't realise this. It was Cameron (presumably a Lib Dem to you) who understood it. He tried to modernise the party often against the wishes of party members ( I doubt for example that many Tory members believe in gay marriage) and he did end up with a majority.

Andrew Rawnsley's article below is definitely thought provoking. Are we about to see the end of the two party system? https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/feb/10/why-the-sickly-ugly-sisters-of-our-politics-deserve-to-suffer-the-splits? The ERG are proving that they are a party within a party. They demonstrate a great unity and discipline. They are united at the moment in their Brexit ambitions but once this is completed will they just drift apart or will they stay united? Their views on economic issues seem the same. What is to stop them getting behind another issue ? Eg The restoration of the death penalty? A split in Labour ranks has been on the cards for ages. Rumours are that a Labour split is just round the corner and if it had not been for the 2017 election and Jez's apparent popularity. I really cannot decide what will happen. I lived through the SDP split from Labour in the '80's and I still think that the odds on the 2 party system being demolished are pretty long. Nevertheless the next couple of years could well see big changes in the British political landscape.

You may well be a grade 1 arrogant c nut but very occasionally you make excellent comments!!

Really ?? You clearly have limited abilities and can prove that you can quote other posters. Wow! If qualifications in cutting and pasting had existed perhaps you would not have flunked your A levels and could have studied somewhere better than Pompey Polytechnic. Do you have any views on the ineptitude of Dr Fox or are you going to pretend that I am on ignore?

I suppose you are right. Last year we sold £6 million of exports to the Faroe Islands. That may seem a lot to tin pot companies selling poison in Fareham but deals like this are not going to keep the British economy going. Put me back on ignore as you just make yourself look even more foolish

Yes. It is like how football transfer deals cannot take place until the transfer window opens but deals are arranged so the transfer occurs as soon as the window opens. Fox promised that up to 40 trade deals would be ready and put in place 1 second after we left the EU. I suppose that "up to 40 trade deals" is what he is achieving.... as 4 is "up to 40" lol but it does show that the incompetent buffoon's mouth is far greater than his ability.

According to Liam Fox there were going to be up to 40 trade deals agreed and ready to be implemented as soon as we left the EU. It was his job to implement them and he had nearly 3 years to achieve this. With 6 weeks to go he has agreed just 4 deals... one of which is with the economic giant of the Faroe Islands! If this wasn't so serious it would be laughable. Fox like David Davis, Boris Johnson and Failing Grayling is another leading Brexiteer who is finding that real life is not as he imagined it. It is just a pity that so many people have believed the Brexit fantasies of these chumps. It is not all bad news however. One of the 4 trade deals is with Switzerland and Lietchtenstein. Lietchtenstein is the world's largest supplier of false teeth with 20% coming from there.... so most Brexiteers will be ok after Brexit!!!

We had 9 points after 15 matches this season. At that rate we would have ended up with 22 points when the season was over. Under Ralf we have earned 15 points after 11 games and already have 24 points. Under Ralf we have mid table form .... under Hughes we had nailed on relegation form - FACT.

.... but is the main reason why we are up s hit creek at the moment ffs

I don't recall him saying that and unless we spectacularly imwe between now and the end of the season I dont think that many on here would blame him if we went down. Hughes has a lot to answer for.

Nail hit on head.

Agree with this.

But to be fair you seem to call anybody who doesn't agree with you a leftie. You called me a leftie (never voted for a left wing party in my life) and presumably life long Tories like Kenneth Clarke are Socialists in your eyes because they want to Remain.

If it had been one of our players who had died I imagine the misery guts on here would explain how the death had such an effect on our players that we couldn't possibly win. Batman would probably start a thread saying that we would never win again ... ever.