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That's a picture of a fire. It could be anything. and anywhere.

Sentencing hearings are merely that. They are not meant to be a show, a cathartic excercise for the victims of those left behind, or anything else. The families all heard the judges thoughts yesterday, and all heard the sentence. Justice, as much as it can be, has been done. This desire to have the defendant in the dock overlooks what could happen. I've been in crown courts when defendants have shouted "they got what he deserved" etc. Just imagine how appalling it would have been if Letby had been dragged into court and said similar. The idealistic, and emotional, viewpoints on this issue are understandable. It's as sad a case as you can imagine. However, I definitely don't want to see defendant's dragged into court and potentially making things worse for those they've harmed.

Yep. Piroe will undoubtedly leave Swansea this window for the same reason Adams will leave us this window. Roundabouts and swings.

Very good player. Comfortable receiving the ball in tight spaces, and a nice turn of pace to get out of trouble when there's no pass available. He'll do well for us.

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Interesting thread. The purpose of a sentencing hearing is just to pass sentence. The defendant need not be there for that. The defendant hearing the impact that the crime has had on others is a concept I understand, but it's not the purpose of the exercise. Dragging them there kicking and screaming (especially if they've pleaded not guilty and do not accept any culpability anyway) is a pointless exercise. There's also the real possibility that they'll shout and holler from the dock anyway and be excluded by the Judge.

There's a lot to agree with there. The issue though is the expectation that SR will let Che walk for nothing. It just won't happen. Beyond that, I wouldn't sell any other players that RM wants for the first team. I'd find a way of shifting those he doesn't want though.

I like your optimism. I'm confident we'll win, but I fancy a tight 3-2. Dunno why, but I think Mara will feature, and score.

I think we'll see Manning in midfield at times this season. He's versatile, and given our lack of midfielders, his experience in the middle is likely to help us.

It seems that Che has suddenly become irreplaceable, and the difference between promotion and staying down. Personally, I've always liked him and I think he'll score a shit load in this league, but if we can't convince him to sign an extension, we've got to take the money and roll the dice. It's a risk for sure, but this season and under Wilcox, I have faith in SR. What I wouldn't want to see is Tella or Alcaraz sold - we need them, and there's no wisdom in moving either on now.

The fact that we've wasted money on players is one reason why we cannot and will not let the valuable ones walk away for free. I share your concern though that we may not get the replacement right. Fingers crossed.

You'll just have to accept that SR will not let Che walk for nowt next year, however much you'd like them to. To me their decision is perfectly understandable.

Yet he starts him in 1 game from 3. Hardly a sign that he's RM's chosen man is it.

That post makes little sense either. Selling Che or letting him walk for nothing has nothing to do with Alcaraz.

That makes no sense on any level. We've wasted a fortune and recouped some of it. We're stuck with the wages on big Paul and other players we won't play, plus money due on our multiple failed signings. To ditch our deadwood, we'll doubtless have to put our hands in our pockets. As a fan I'd like to keep him. As a business person, I can see that any sensible business owner would take the money and reinvest.

We've got people whining that we're selling him, after calling for him to be sold only a few weeks ago. Couldn't make it up. On your main point, there's no guarantee he'll get the goals to get us promoted. It's also unclear whether RM wants him - he's started him once in three games. Regardless, it's pretty obvious that SR would have taken the best bid for him. Hopefully we'll reinvest sensibly and quickly.

I cannot believe we've got people saying that we should turn down the money and let him walk for free next season. Football is a business for SR. Business owners don't throw £15m away, especially having seen a monumental amount of money wasted over the past windows. The opinion that we've made a lot of money from sales is a fallacy. In truth, we've recouped a lot of the money we've wasted on shite.

They'll be desperate now that Calvert-Lewin is crocked. There'll be a few million reasons why he'll be tempted.

Indeed. We were massively disliked under Cortese, but as long as a) clubs like us enough to send us their better youngsters on win/win deals, and b) good players like us enough to come here, who gives a monkeys.

I read that as his opinion that we should ask for €25-30m, not that we are.

Hemp had a couple of half chances first half. Other than that, we created nothing. We were worse 2nd half after the tactical changes. Spain were significantly better.

They've been so much better, we've almost come 3rd in a 2 horse race.

True. Just not been effective enough for me. To be fair to her though, we've been so wasteful and she's tried to play off the last defender but just hasn't got it right.

Yep. He's not a defender. He's played more games in his career in other positions. It shows.

They're not alone. Bronze had been dreadful, Hemp wasteful, and Kelly poor since she's been on.