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What are you on about? I have no opinion on the Palestinian's view of Hamas.

No. 7/10 has happened, and we're now in a situation where Israel has decimated Gaza. What people may have said pre all of this doesn't address the now and the future. As I've said up there, we don't know the current Palestinian position on 2 states. Palestine isn't a state. That's the point.

Behave Duck. I'd wager that you're wrong, but let's have a little look at facts rather before we focus on opinion. What the mass Israeli population want, neither of us know. Regardless, their government and many of their people grab land from the Palestinians. Their government have said recently that they oppose a 2 state solution. Facts Ducky, facts, which fly in the face of your opinion. If we're considering opinion, I'd wager that If Israel got out of the west bank and east Jerusalem, and pledged to stay out, that the Palestinian people would be cool with that as a solution alongside Israel.

Why are you focusing on Jews living in a Muslim state? The solution is 2 states, but Israel oppose that and the current Palestinian view on that is not known. And yep, other states cultures and other states interpretation of Sharia has fuck all to with us.

Pretty significant attack by Russia, destroying the largest power plant covering 3 regions including Kyiv. 80 missiles and drones used in one nights attacks. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68788110

Much as our western values make us dislike that kind of culture, it's their culture and we have to accept it for what it is. So would Jews if they lived there.

You're inability to look at this with balance makes discussion impossible Hypo. Israel do not respect the land that the Palestinians already have and constantly settle it and force Palestinians from their land. They oppose 2 states. If the Palestinians supported 2 states, the fact that the Israeli's don't (and wouldn't based on their form in the west bank), means that sustained peace is impossible

What Badger said. Israel have said that they wouldn't be thou, and the settlement policy highlights their stance sadly.

I'm not sure that anyone has suggested that they are. It was necessary, and it still is. I'm more interested in knowing who's in favour of a free Palestinian state alongside Israel.

Yep, but that's not the point that you and Hypo were making (up).

Neither of those options suit me. I don't think he's doing a good enough job, but he can't go now. I'd vote "keep until the end of the season then take a view".

Who? Source for their policies?

Yep. I'm also unclear how it's felt ok to term unspecified countries as "Arab and Muslim states" but not Israel as a "Jewish state". No doubt someone can clear that up.

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Spain now following Australia in saying that they're ready to acknowledge a Palestinian state, ie 2 states. Also describing the Israel response to the 7/10 attacks as "completely disproportionate". https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-68777333?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=6616486b683d4b45f9381924%26Spain 'ready to acknowledge Palestinian state' - PM%262024-04-10T08%3A58%3A43.865Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:ea732864-10f2-4164-9ee4-78d8b6dd1ef0&pinned_post_asset_id=6616486b683d4b45f9381924&pinned_post_type=share

The annoying this is that there's a player in there, but he just doesn't put the effort in, or appear interested in the cause. I wouldn't give any more minutes. Enough already.

We should...

2-2 AA and Smallbone.

You mean that Manning bloke who everyone moans about? I guess that if the dice has to be rolled he'll break up the CB partnership and push one of them across, or play Charles out of position.

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If you ask a question with a proper question mate, we might get somewhere.

Interesting if it's correct that 13k from 32k deaths are Hamas soldiers. Personally I find that very hard to believe. Everything I've read, even on the likes of the BBC, makes it clear that they've attacked innocent civilians throughout without any justification. The argument that the US were even worse in Mosul doesn't let the Israeli's off the hook for their behaviour. It also overlooks the weaponising of food, water, medicine, and mass destruction of civilian infrastructure which I would hope we all accept has been happening.

They're not saying that at all. They're saying they're invading Rafah, that a date has been set, and that nobody's gonna stop them.

Err. What about Israel opposing a Palestinian state? Fortunately Australia seem to have sense. Them recognising Palestine as a state may start something meaningful. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-09/austalian-government-considers-recognising-state-of-palestine/103687666

Feck, that's just mental. Bless.