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I agree that the majority of fans are savvy enough not to expect big cash outlays, but, what does it matter how much we spend? What's better, for example, a CF from Belgium for £15m who may or may not adapt to English football, or a player on loan from an English club who will already have adapted? The latter is plainly the better option, but won't appease those obsessed with seeing money being spent.

We don't need him and Manning. Both are average defenders, but Manning gives us so much more with the ball, is tactically sound, steps into midfield, is creative, and rarely wastes the ball. We won't miss Perraud, although I'm grateful for his commitment to the cause. Good luck to the lad.

I agree about us bringing in players suited to us getting promoted, and not signing players who we'd be stuck with in the PL who aren't good enough for that level once we're up. However, I don't think we're banking cash. We spent an obscene amount last year on players and won't get much of a return on some. We have also lost a huge amount of income following relegation. Long story short, I agree with you in the main, but I think that we're recouping losses rather than saving for the PL. In fact, I think we're spending pretty much all we can, but spending it wisely and using the loan system sensibly.

Our ambition is to get out of this league. Fraser, Holgate, Charles and Manning are all good enough to help us meet that ambition. You and a few others are obsessed about how much we spend. The amount is bollox. It's about the player being good enough, and the ones we have signed are good enough...bar Lumley who I can't make a case for. If we signed players good enough to get us up, but not good enough for when we get there, we'll then have the likes of you asking we signed players who weren't good enough for the PL. This season is about shifting shite, clearing some debt, and giving RM a good enough to have a proper crack at promotion.

What do we need that we haven't got? A Che replacement, yep. Another CB. Arguably another winger, although I'm happy with what we have. Where else are we short? What's this lack of ambition you speak of?

Sounds about right, hence I cannot understand why people seem to think that we've got money to spend.

Agreed. He's a good, proven PL, player. Only 29, and will be playing to put himself in the shop window. Very astute signing.

All of that is possible, as is the possibility that we thought he'd be good enough get us up nothing more. If he wanted a 5 year deal, for example, that'd have left us with him for 4 years beyond us going up. Anyway, too many hypotheticals , and it doesn't matter cos he's Leeds man now.

Err, no. That was Ankersen. He's in Turkey doing his thing. Wilcox and a whole new crew are now doing the grown up stuff.

Ballard starting for the under 21's tonight possibly suggests that Che will be involved tomorrow. No Doyle or Finnigan for the under 21's tomorrow so they may be involved with the first team squad.

Why? You speak as if Piroe is the only possible Che replacement. Sure, he looked ideal but I still can't see him staying and being allowed to leave free next year, or signing a contract. He'll go, and he'll be replaced.

Amen. The doom and gloom is pretty sad to be honest.

That's your narrative. If he came, Sulemana may have gone as well. In the knowledge he was off to Leeds, the decision may have been made to keep Sulemana. Roundabouts and swings. Take a step back and look at what we have for the wide areas if Tella goes and we keep the others plus Fraser. We'd all have taken that at the start of the season if we were being honest. As for Leeds new bloke, if you tell me that you know anything about him, or had even heard about him before a fortnight ago, I won't believe you.

Far from it. There's more wet fannie's on here in the last 24 hours than you'll find in a brothel. Adams was always going, ditto Tella. We still have Sulemana for the wide positions. Fraser as an extra body. We'll replace Adams , who everyone thought was shit until a few weeks ago but all of a sudden he's irreplaceable. We still have AA, etc. No head in the sand, I'm just not flapping like others. SR want and need promotion. They'll look after their asset.

What if Tella is being sold, but Sulemana is staying and Fraser has been added to the squad?

Neither have gone and the window hasn't closed. Relax Hypo.

Why would he want to come here and be behind Tella, Edozie, AA, Sam? Or would you want to bin one of those off for a lad you've (presumably) never heard of until he was linked a couple of weeks ago?

Agreed. Really poor move for the lad. He followed Jones but saw him leave, expected to play but didn't , hoped to stay up but went down being passed by Luton on the way. You couldn't make up how it's panned out for him. As you say, hopefully he picks up a decent move.

He'll offer versatility that's for sure. Bree just isn't suited to RM's way - he looked like a fish up a tree when he stepped into midfield in pre season. Holgate coming in will see Bree gone I'd imagine.

Everton?

As things stand we'll be paying those players millions to rarely, if ever, play them. They'll go, and just getting them off our wage bill will have a financial boost for us. Sometimes it's a case of cutting losses.

I struggle with this. Last season the intention was top drawer - they spent a fortune. The execution, mostly from Ankersen, was terrible. SR have clearly acknowledged that Ankersen isn't the man to right the wrongs. He's been shipped off to Turkey, and Wilcox and Mowbray have come in. Suggesting that last season's off the field mistakes will be replicated by new people makes as much sense as suggesting that RM will make the same mistakes on the field as our various managers.

They want/need PL money more than me and you want to see us being thumped 5 nil at City. Personally I have no issue with loans. Players coming in, bedding in for a season, playing a season, then being sold are no more 'our player' than someone can come in and hit the ground running for a season. I think the finances are tight tbh, we wasted a fortune and need to balance. I think that our strategy this season is sound. SR know what we need for this season, and I'm confident we'll get it.

Behave. All 3 have been signed on Wilcox watch. All 3 are decent.

I don't know how you interpret that as saying that what he receive from transfers is all to be spent on transfers. Anyways the point is that it's not a matter of how much we spend, or even if we buy it loan. It's simply about assembling a squad that RM is happy with and that will get us promoted.