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Choices

We beg to differ SoG. We worked in related areas of the civil service. Where I worked could have operated well with half the staff working hard and efficiently. Those staff numbers have reduced, and technology has improved. The fact that they have less staff now does not make them understaffed. The NHS is a different issue I think. There seems to be a genuine issue of insufficient staff for the number of people to be looked after.

Professional

The thing with personal experiences SoG is that we can only reliably draw on our own. My previous post addresses the staff numbers point... having less staff than you previously had doesn't mean that you don't have enough.

It's not a lazy cliche Whelk. It's a reality that I worked amongst for years. My colleagues took the piss. I took the piss. It was a slack environment. For my friends still there it's a bit tougher as staff levels are down, but their perception of being "under staffed" is bollox - it's just that they had it too easy for too long and are now having to work something like a proper shift.

Water

In the private sector we don't get time for either MLG. I bet you have a pond full of ducks and a variety of toasters at your place.

Shame. He'd have been a great signing. Proper top flight experience. Hard to see where he'd go in the prem and be a starter though. Leeds perhaps.

You're a bit defensive Whelk. I've referenced my own experience in the public sector - it's not a perception, it's reality over a number of years. To be fair, I enjoyed it. What's to dislike about study day release, study leave (all in the knowledge I'd leave afterwards of course), a few pay rises a year, being able to come in late whilst hanging, having a long pub lunch on a Friday, getting home nice and early, slacking off in the week knowing I could do weekend overtime at an enhanced rate, and a day off in lieu on top, etc, etc? Good times, but all at the tax payers expense. I've since worked in the real world of the private sector. Knowing what I now know, that place could've been run at half the cost. In my experience, and I can only refer to that, the public sector I worked in was a soft option. Turkish had a perception which is my experience of reality. I'll assume that you have no experience of both sides of the fence.

My skills are unrelated to the fact that I had colleagues who were bred in a culture where they can stroll in almost mid morning despite work piling up, have a 2 hour lunch cos they want to, go home to beat the traffic cos there's Flexi time on the clock, and all with a "the work can wait" attitude. If you've worked for a decent amount of time on both sides of the divide then I'll debate the issue with you, bit if you haven't, I can't see that you're placed to discuss it.

That's the thing, you normalise it while you're there and don't see it. I have friends who still work there and just don't understand what me and others who've left can see. Private sector is a different ball game.

Having worked in both the public and private sectors, Turkish's perception isn't wrong. People working to rule, Flexi time being enjoyed even though there was work still work to be done, mass overtime at the year end just to spend money, etc. I wouldn't employ one of my former public sector colleagues.

Worktop

Kitten

Lord Duck's favourite shirt maker.

Fair point.

Andy Robertson's mate springs to my mind. Gifted a pukka ticket. Was told it was a fake. The only explanations are some technical issue or that he sold a proper ticket and bought a fake. Only one of those explanations makes sense to me.

One ticket. They've treated a huge number of fans as if they were all holding fakes. I'm no fan of Liverpool or their fans, but as a football fan, the treatment of those people was a disgrace. There'll be fake tickets at almost every event or match, but I'm struggling to accept it was on this scale, and that the treatment of the fans was necessary.

Liverpool won't be any more beat able if they're wearing a different colour shirt at St Mary's. If you're correct, we can go to anfield in our "white home" shirts. Struggling to see your point.

Presumably the French authorities and/or uefa. If this really was a fake ticket issue surely they'd be in possession of some fakes and be quick to show them?

Personally I'm hoping we get coaches or a manager who regularly uses tactics which suits our players. That's usually a good recipe.

Discogs don't list it with that b side, but no other version has ever fetched more than £20, and no Clifford Chance stuff seems to make strong money. Interesting to get something different all the same.

Although I take your point, you misunderstand Kelvin's original role. He was a kind of link man between the dressing room and hierarchy, almost a "shop steward" type figure. Then they let him loose with cones and bibs, and the rest is history.

American

What do you base that on? Keepers are the only players who watch the whole game. They get to monitor the movement of the opposition. They see what works at set pieces. They organise their defences. Keepers can make great coaches.