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Absolutely, but it'll take longer if people think its OK to live how they want. Speeding up will slow us down in the end.

Good for us and Kevin's career if this happens. Gut feeling though is that he'll want to stay local.

One mans realism is another mans doom mongering; one mans positivity is another mans naivety. Imo thinking its OK to think things are OK, is what helps nobody.

Behave Ducky. You're bright enough to understand my point and the context it was written. If not, the comment I replied to - (imo) sought to minimise the risk of covid. I don't agree with doing that. The government message has created a false sense of security that I disagree with. Anyone who minimises the risk, imo, is either an idiot or has not experienced the pain covid can cause.

I'm guessing you've not lost any friends or family to covid yet, or even know of anyone who has really suffered from it. Come back and comment when it means something to you.

Yep. But when you remove the words "stay at home", introduce a sign with chevrons pointing forward with green as the main colour, and then use the word "unlimited" re exercise and tell people they can drive wherever to do whatever, the results are inevitable.

What is all this Starmer bashing all about? He's not managing the crisis. Boris is, apparently, albeit he's had a nightmare. Starmer is right to criticise the sending of people to care homes without testing. Do you not agree with him? Why would Starmer express any opinion about decisions taken by any of the 3 nations under devolved powers? That's a matter for the opposition in those 3 nations. Quite rightly he's spending his time exposing Boris's numerous errors.

Exactly. New Zealand will undoubtedly be playing sport soon, and properly, for the same reason.

What sane person persistently badgers someone to debate Adam & Eve or Noah & his ark ffs? It's mental. You could call me out to debate whether ghosts are real, or some other random boll0x, and my refusal to engage wouldn't be a victory - rather, I'd be normal person not wanting to waste my time indulging someone who isn't.

I suspect that's because nobody a) is interested or b) can be arsed to get into another 28 rounds of repetitive tedium with you. Your constant invitations to re-open a debate that only you wanted were pathetic. Let it go mate.

Danny Rose talking sense for once. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52630497

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You're full of insightful comments tonight Duck man. Any actual words to add?

Absolutely. I've called it lockdown lite because that is exactly what it is. The once a day excersize only didn't even make it into the law (save for Wales). It's been a complete joke and should have been a la France, with the Army to enforce alongside the police.

The Southampton v Portsmouth comment is as daft as the drink driving point. We're taking about a pandemic virus. We need to take appropriate steps to reduce the spread of it. It's not complicated, or Comparable to anything else as it isn't anything else.

Poor analogy Duck. Too many people are seeking to make comparisons with irrelevant scenarios. Covid 19 is a hideous virus. It's not remotely comparable to drink driving. The British populous have shown themselves to be idiots. Businesses have shown themselves to be willing to stretch rules for their own benefit. If footy comes back, fans will show up, Bazza will park his burger van up, etc. The bottom line Is that other countries are able to open up as they have slowed the spread. We haven't. Until we do, life must remain very different and football will have to wait. The masses don't need to be hearing "we'll be back to the old way soon". They need to hear "the longer you carry on stretching and breaking the rules, the longer we'll need the rules". Alas that message has never been given by the dopey government and media.

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It's pretty obvious - less spread = less infection = less deaths.

Are you seriously suggesting that our death count would have been lower with no lockdown?!

I think lives comes before money, and I'd rather we locked down harder and earlier. Germany are planning a way out of this, but given how widespread we have it I just don't see a safe way out of it. Our economy will be hit very hard for a long time sadly.

I'm assuming from your comment that you are looking just at the impact of this pandemic on you. For me, my income has halved, my firm may or may not survive this, but this isn't just about me. Staying on your original point, there's no chance of the old normal coming back anytime soon, if at all. The harsh reality is that the world's a different place and we have to adapt to it alongside this virus.

House arrest? Ffs. Back to normal? Things won't be as they were until there's a reliable vaccine. The virus ain't going anywhere so we've got to adapt to live alongside it. Of course there'll be mass unemployment and business closures, everyone knows that but saying "as you were" won't stop that.

Footy, the elixir of life eh.