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Absolutely this ?

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Where does the belief that we need to sell before loaning come from? We have loads of useless players under contract that are costing as cash. Isn't it possible that the club is trying to reduce the number of contracted players before signing more players on long contracts?

I've not seen anyone suggest that they'd be "happy for us not to sign anyone". All of us want our team and squad to improve. The point is that chucking £20m or whatever on a footballer is not an "investment" as people think. An investment involves getting your money back, with a cherry on top. Our recent track record is shocking and money will be lost on Vestergaard, Moi, Hoedt, Carrillo, Lemina etc. Thus, none of those players represent an investment, rather they'll all lose money. Goa doesn't like to spend, we all know that, and I'd be surprised if you really think that those signings will persuade him that chucking big bucks at a footballer represents a sound investment. This isn't about what we as fans would like to happen, it's a matter of what us realistic with this bloke in charge.

He's definitely played out of necessity, but he's played well and if Ralph fancies KWP over him for the rest of the season, he must have massive faith in the lad. It's an odd one for me.

A poll on that would result in one hell of a landslide.

We do. Our allocation at £25 rather than a tenner yields us an extra £42k.

That's an additional £42,675 coming our way if we sell our allocation. Gao will be delighted.

According to the telegraph its £1m, and according to some people on this forum, everything the telegraph write about us comes from the club.

Ha!! According to established forum law, he'd be a liar and/or skate. On a related theme, if a player rejects us and/or a terms can't be agreed, then the club and its staff are useless.

Blimey. Makes the deal even more baffling.

It's not £5m. It's £5m Inc the wages we won't be paying. If he's on £70k pw for another 20 weeks we're seeing about £3.5m for the player. They'll be a loan fee for KWP I'd imagine, and agents fees to pay on both deals. Looking at all of that, the net gain will be minimal, and we'll have replaced a proven RB with an unproven one with no fit RB to cover.

Absolutely, although I'd argue that we need another CM player too, especially if Cedric goes and JWP becomes our RB back up.

They may not have offered one. Or wanted daft money.

Yes, but 3 becomes 2 in reality when JWP is used at RB. No idea why Slattery is so out of favour, but he or Smallbone are next in line which is ridiculous.

The name wasn't given, but that would be my guess as he left Leeds to go back to Arsenal. Either way, Adams is here for the foreseeable at least and hopefully he'll come good.

Blimey, that puts transfer fees and expectations in perspective. Thank you for the summary.

I have it on good authority that the intention was to sell and bring in a lad from Arsenal. I've not had an update but the young strikers at Arsenal are getting game time. It's only a guess, but I reckon that the replacement didn't come off so he's staying, at least for now.

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Then keeping Cedric until the summer makes perfect sense.

Crazy if true. He's been very good this season, and KWP coming in to cover only makes sense if he has someone to cover. One in and one out is daft with Valery out.

"Agenda". Behave. If you ever got to a saints game pal you'd have seen a player who made little or no effort more often than not. My opinion on him is based primarily on that, and the obvious fact that he's wasting a huge talent. Do you disagree with that also? The insta thing is very much secondary, but the fact that he comes across as an ego driven helmet doesn't improve my opinion of him.

Behave. You only have to see the bloke on the pitch to see that he has all the talent in the world but more often than not can't be arsed. Whether that is down to ego or something else is another matter, but his "look at me" insta is all about ego.

I think you misunderstand. Osvaldo was a nutter. Lemina isn't. Both are/were talented and had moments of brilliance, but both lacked application and are/were ego driven.

Whilst he's not looked great when I've seen him, if this is a loan with an option, it gives us cover on both sides. It also frees JWP up to stay in the middle where he's most effective. If he's another Danso, then we aren't committed. If he proves himself, we have a winner. Not the worst bit of business.