Lord Duckhunter

My point wasn’t about deteriorating health, it was about older people who haven’t previously exercised starting to do so recently, and then being stopped from doing so. There’s also the issue of consent. Pretty much everyone, save a few numpties, have stuck to the advice. Whether they’ll continue to do so if there’s a total lockdown is open to debate. The Government allow the sale of cigarettes, which we know kill people & stretch NHS resources, but aren’t going to let my 77 year old mum go for a daily walk in case she catches Covid. It’s just not sustainable. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Are you being deliberately obtuse? A fitter healthier population, will ease the strain on the NHS long term. Around here, there is definitely an increase in people walking, running and cycling, particularly in the older age range. If this becomes a habit & people enjoy it so much they continue after the lockdown, is that not a good thing? If only 25% of 50-70’s lose weight & continue to exercise post lockdown, that’ll save a lot of money in the future. Nobody knows, but I’d hazard a guess it’ll be more than locking everyone in their homes will save. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

They’re in danger of making the cure worse than the disease. One of the only positives of this whole thing has been more & more people cycling, running & walking. It’s been particularly heartening seeing old people walking around my local park, there’s normally a few with dogs, but there’s loads of newbies recently. If people are staying fitter & healthier, that must be a good thing. In crude terms will the number of people dying due to a few people not following the advise, be higher than people who won’t die of heart attacks etc in future (because they’re fitter). There’s also the consent angle. People have by and large, accepted the restrictions, I’m not so sure they would if it became more draconian. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Good luck with that.... You’ve got absolutely zero chance of this making a blind bit of difference to attendances. 3 weeks after the restart it’ll all be forgotten. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Careful, you’re not allowed to stick up for the players on here, the pitchforks will be out. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Sir Keir Starmer, he’s going to go down a storm in labour’s northern heartlands of Camden & Islington. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I think they’re still following this herd immunity thing, but without trying to frighten the horses by admitting it. In the absence of a vaccine or keeping people in lockdown permanently , how else can we defeat it. I presume their endgame is a large population immune without the NHS falling over. Sir Max Hastings reckons it’ll end up with the old & underlying health condition people staying in lockdown and the rest of us avoiding them & taking our chances. The ones with a high chance of dying from it, shielded and the rest of society carrying on. As a country, I’m not sure we’ve got the stomach for that. I thought the immune certificate as a good idea, but the more I think about it, the worse it seems. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I can’t see what the alternative is. It won’t be Boris Johnson announcing a sudden end to the lockdown and it’s all back to normal. As you say, once there’s some sort of certification to say you’re back to normal you’ve got a golden ticket. Not just holidays or going to pubs, livelihoods will depend on it. Decorators & builders etc with the all clear certifications will be in demand, winning contracts over others stuck at home . The job market will be skewed in favour of certificate holders. Small independent shops where the owner has a certificate will open, whereas others can’t. The incentive for people to catch it would grow & grow. What happens to the people working at the moment who have never had it, will they be sent home. Both me & the snap dragon have continued to work, are we going to be told “thanks for working when most weren’t , but you’re not certified clear so home you go.” That’ll go down like a lead balloon if it’s just as the pubs are re opening. I honestly don’t think the Government have thought it through and I certainly have no faith in them coming up with a sensible solution. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

What’s the alternative? Nothing will be back to normal until enough people are immune or a vaccine becomes available. If I was a betting man, I’d back the first of those options. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Nor have the players. My post was sticking up for players, not the clubs........pal. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I would be livid as well. To single out football Is a cheap easy point. Nobody is hassling Paul McCartney or Elton John. Where are the calls for Steve Coogan, Hugh Grant or Liam Gallagher to take a pay cut, hell why aren’t politicians calling out their own millionaires like Philip Hammond, Jeremy Hunt & Nadhim Zahawi. Football does loads for local communities and I bet players do more hospital visits than any other line of “celebrity “. Bournemouth are taking loads of stick regarding furloughed workers but I know for a fact they do absolutely loads of this sort of stuff. My friend lost his 18 year old and Bournemouth (Callum Wilson in particular) were absolutely fantastic to the lad when he was dying. I’ve no doubt most footballers will be doing the right thing, quietly. They don’t need big mouth politicians and pundits lecturing them on how to behave. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

People are all over the place on this. Some claiming you can be back at work 10 mins after a positive test and others not realising it’s a 7 day period of isolation if you’re displaying symptoms. It’s an incredibly more complex issue than the test negative/back to work brigade make out. My snap dragon is on the front line and to protect her 100%, she would need a test every other day at least, as would me, my son and my daughter who are living with her. It’s not really feasible, or affordable when you multiply that by the number of nhs workers. Testing can help, but getting NHS workers with symptoms who test negative back to work, isn’t one of the benefits. As you have rightly pointed out the only thing that will make a blind bit of difference is a test to determine whether you’ve had it and are consequently immune. Once we get a test with a degree of accuracy, and proof you can’t re catch it, society can start to return to normal. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Have you been asleep the past 10 days. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

My point is that it’s much more complicated than people are making out. Too easy to just say that a negative test means you can go back to work safe in the knowledge you’re clear. That status my change the very next day. Surely people displaying symptoms but testing negative need a daily test if they’re working normally, is that really feasible? If it is, great. Anyone with no symptoms, or symptoms but pass a daily test can work. I’m not sure I’d want my snap dragon working on the front line alongside someone coughing & sneezing all day, even if they did pass a test 2 days earlier. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Can you still become infected at the same time you have a cold/cough. Under your “simple to understand” explanation. Could someone test negative one day & catch it the next? Does the test stop you being infected? No, therefore surely you need to test everyday. Otherwise a nurse on a Covid ward could test negative one day, catch it 3 days later but continue to work because her negative test makes her think she’s only got her original “cold”. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Those of you sticking up for plod need to watch this. Bloke films a jobsworth traffic warden on his phone & 5 plod turn up to invite him for an “interview”, including one with his hand constantly on his taser. None of them 2 meters apart, yet people claim it’s the public that are the idiots. If anyone believes these new powers aren’t going to their head, they’re deluded. https://mobile.twitter.com/DrJamesKent3/status/1245249108148879362 Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Not entirely it’s not. As per usual, you give them a inch & they take a mile. Despite your rush to stick up for plod it’s noticeable you don’t answer the question of where were they pre this virus? I’ve never seen so many round here, **** me, they were even patrolling the streets of Poole last night. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Footballers contracts mean that if they have to take a pay cut they are entitled to a free transfer. That’s one of the reason clubs won’t ask them to do so. Can anybody say hand on heart that all agents and players will act honourably once this is all over and not take advantage of that. ****ing hell, it’s hard enough to hold them to contacts when they haven’t got the right to a free..... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I’ve never seen so many about, begs the question WTF were they doing pre lockdown. It’s a ****ing jobsworths & busybodies wet dream. When this is all over I hope some politicians & pressure groups step up the plate, because Governments become addicted to telling us what to do. Once authority get given extra powers on a temporary basis, it’s extremely difficult to get them back. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

What are you on about, very much in their favour. They’d have won the ****ing league by now. I’d say things are very much going against them. It’s easy to be blasé about voiding it when your teams in mid table and will have a 9-0 wiped from the record. If we needed 2 points from 9 games to make the champions league, you’d be one of the first moaning. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Rubbish. There’s not one person in the country that doesn’t think Liverpool will win the title. If the season is voided it’ll be remembered as the season a freak event robbed them of the title. Only sad sacks and Man Utd fans will deny that. Not that Liverpool will particularly care. I don’t get the hatred for them over this, they’ve acted pretty classy, Klopp in particular. You can bet your bottom dollar that when it comes to clubs putting their self interest above all else and acting without class Liverpool will be way behind the West Ham’s and Newcastle’s of the world by the time this is all over. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

It is being paused because that’s the fairest thing to do at the present time. Whether that remains sustainable as weeks become months is another thing. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

And I presume you’d be saying exactly the same thing if it was our promotion winning season under Nigel Adkins, or if we were 25 points ahead of 5th and pretty much guaranteed champions league football next season. Nobody is pausing the season to please Liverpool , in fact Klopp & Liverpool have shown a lot of class at this moment in time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I live by the park, and was walking my dog. Perhaps you should read the Government advice yourself before you start preaching to others. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

****ing jobsworths are in their element. There’s videos doing the rounds of a traffic warden ticketing an ambulance & a copper issuing a fine to a shop keeper for marking 2 meter lines in chalk outside her shop. I’ve just come from the local park where they’ve stationed a high viz bod, stopping people parking up, asking people what they’re doing & generally acting like a twt. This is the same park that did **** all when gypos turned up last summer & also started charging cars to park because they couldn’t afford for a bloke to unlock & lock the barrier each day. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk