Lord Duckhunter

I bet you wouldn’t be saying that if we were 25 points above 5th and pretty much guaranteed our first ever Champions league place. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

The snap dragon showed me this, don’t know where she got it from, but it’s probably the best explanation I’ve seen of the Government’s policy and the difference between that & what others are doing. “ The govt strategy on Coronavirus is more refined than those used in other countries and potentially very effective. But it is also riskier and based on a number of assumptions. They need to be correct, and the measures they introduce need to work when they are supposed to.UK starting assumption is that a high number of the population will inevitably get infected whatever is done – up to 80%. As you can’t stop it, so it is best to manage it. There are limited health resources so the aim is to manage the flow of the seriously ill to these. The Italian model the aims to stop infection. The UKs wants infection BUT of particular categories of people. The aim of the UK is to have as many lower risk people infected as possible. Immune people cannot infect others; the more there are the lower the risk of infection? Based on this idea, at the moment the govt wants people to get infected, up until hospitals begin to reach capacity. At that they want to reduce, but not stop infection rate. Ideally they balance it so the numbers entering hospital = the number leaving.The risk is being able to accurately manage infection flow relative to health case resources. Data on infection rates needs to be accurate, the measures they introduce need to work and at the time they want them to and to the degree they want, or the system is overwhelmed. Kids generally won’t get very ill, so the govt can use them as a tool to infect others when you want to increase infection. When you need to slow infection, that tap can be turned off – at that point they close the schools. Politically risky for them to say this. The same for large scale events - stop them when you want to slow infection rates; turn another tap off. This means schools etc are closed for a shorter period and disruption generally is therefore for a shorter period, AND with a growing immune population. This is sustainable After a while most of the population is immune, the seriously ill have all received treatment and the country is resistant. The more vulnerable are then less at risk. This is the end state the govt is aiming for and could achieve. The Italian (and others) strategy is to stop as much infection as possible - or all infection. This is appealing, but then what? The restrictions are not sustainable for months. So the will need to be relaxed. But that will lead to reemergence of infections.Then rates will then start to climb again. So they will have to reintroduce the restrictions each time infection rates rise. That is not a sustainable model and takes much longer to achieve the goal of a largely immune population with low risk of infection of the vulnerable As the government tries to achieve equilibrium between hospitalisations and infections, more interventions will appear. It's perhaps why there are at the moment few public information films on staying at home. They are treading a tight path, but possibly a sensible one.This is probably the best strategy, but they should explain it more clearly. It relies on a lot of assumptions, so it would be good to know what they are - especially behavioural. Most encouraging, it's way too clever for Johnson to have had any role in developing it.” Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Boris could personally find a cure & produce a vaccine and the usually suspects on here would moan “what’s taken him so long, a dozen people have died whilst he was fannying around”. Imagine if he had a Government Chief Scientific Adviser & a Chief Medical Officer and then proceeded to ignore their advice, Soggy and his gang of soft arrested lefties would be going nuts. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t. The 2 guys CV’s make pretty impressive reading, admittedly they’d probably get Watford relegated & Professor Chris Whitty’s Life Stories would be a pretty ****ty TV programme , but they’re highly expert in their field, and more importantly, are aware of the whole picture and all the facts. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Give it a ****ing rest. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Probably about as fair as Saints would have been had our championship season under Adkins was declared void in March. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

This is what our Government is banking on. They appear to believe it’s unavoidable,and once it spreads through the country, eventually it’ll result in less deaths long term. However, this approach will result in people dying early. The approach of other countries is that a lock down will stop the virus. Whilst that’ll result in less deaths in the short and medium term, may well result in more deaths long term. If the virus returns in Oct /Nov clearly we’ll be better prepared as we’ll have some immunity. The other approach only works if the virus ****s off permanently, or a vaccine is found. If it does return & there’s no vaccine , I’d certainly rather be in our shoes than others (that’s provided I don’t peg it during this stage ). Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I suggest the couple of chumps on here claiming “fit healthy young men” should be ok and continue to play behind closed doors should read this. From a Doc who worked in football. Professional players have been shown to be regularly immunosuppressed,' former Chelsea doctor Dr Eva Carneiro tells Sportsmail. 'This has been demonstrated by both blood tests and the rate and incidence of upper respiratory tract and other infections, which is how a virus like this starts. That's due to the amount of sport they play. The physical activity, playing at a professional level, with games sometimes every 72 hours, as well as training creates a strain on the body.' The risk is compounded by overseas travel. 'It means they have to enter an airport even though they might be travelling by private jet,' adds Dr Carneiro who was at Chelsea for six years and is now Sports and Exercise Medicine Doctor at The Sports Medical Group in London's Harley Street. 'Travel can also mean a change in sleep patterns, arriving back in the early hours of the morning, creating a fatigue which again can make players susceptible.' “Players also share dressing rooms, meeting rooms, coaches, stay at same hotels and — more significantly — dining rooms, regularly eating at the same time. 'They also are part of families who are exposed to the greater community,' says Dr Carneiro. 'Fixtures also mean exposure to other teams, staff, nationalities, the latter having regular travel exposures of their own, with differing immunity profiles.' Persuading members of the highly tactile playing community that they might change their hygiene habits has always been notoriously difficult. The immune system deficiencies also make players susceptible to gastrointestinal viruses, which can be extremely infectious.” Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

As if things weren’t bad enough, they’ve replaced MoTD with Mrs Brown’s boys Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Exactly There are 9 academy staff at Bournemouth self isolating & a parent of one of the kids has the virus. They’re thinking the kid could have been the conduit that passed the disease on without experiencing much in terms of symptoms (he’s got mild flu like symptoms). That is the thing people just don’t want to get into their heads. The 25 fit men running around behind closed doors have mothers & fathers, grandparents, elderly aunts, neighbours. The quickest way to return to normal is to let it rip through the population & let healthy people get over it. However, more of our elderly and unhealthy people will die as a result of that. We’re trying to slow the spread down and push the peak to the hotter months, how is football continuing helping that? It’s not. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

If you saw the communication my snap dragon is getting, you would tone down the hard man act. I guess at times like this people’s true colours come out. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Are you for real? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Don’t be a twt Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

It was always going to hit the game. It’s probably one of the highest risk categories outside of the medics. There’s employees from all over the world, plus their agents, scouts, owners , press officers, journos friends, family and god knows who else, flying in and out of various countries. You’ve got blokes changing next to each other daily, basically living in each other’s pockets day in day out, plus contact with oppositions players, and supporters (selfies etc). I’d be amazed if the % of people connected with football that have the virus is far higher than the general population. From what the snap dragon told me earlier and what’s happened tonight, it’s over imo. I doubt we’ll play again after Norwich. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

It’s not the dog & duck playing Sunday morning. Even behind closed doors, I’ll bet they’ll be 100 + people in the facility. You wait till 5 or 6 players in each club, or a couple of first team managers or referees get it. It’s not just match day, once it rips through clubs, they’ll be no training, no tactical work, and ultimately no games. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

My snap dragon is a band 7 and they had an emergency meeting in her hospital today. It’s grim, really grim. Not going to get into the ins and outs of it, or any arguments, but from what they’ve been told there’s absolutely zero chance the season will be completed....... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Does Owen realise Madrid beat them in both legs. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

When did Ed Milliband become chancellor? Labour didn’t cause the economic crash, but their management of the economy in the run up to it left us ill prepared to deal with it properly. Exactly the same is happening here & god help us if something goes tits up again. It’s inter generational theft yet again, pinkos love loading debt on future generations. They’ve bet the farm on maintaining the confidence of the bond markets. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

More excuses for him. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

The biggest VAR failure we’ve been involved in was the handball against Watford. The rules are very clear & the goal should have been disallowed. Who knows where our season would be if that goal had been correctly ruled out. VAR isn’t some robot it’s a bloke that had a different opinion than you, that’s it. Just because a decision went against you doesn’t make it “broken”. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

He’s reply will mention Tommy Robinson (not his real name), Katie Hopkins, letterboxes, 300 Tories and probably Warsi as well. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Here he comes again. Head in the sand as per normal. A prominent anti racism campaigner suspended by the party on flimsy grounds, nothing to see here what about The Tories. Supporters like you are the reason they’ll face years out of power. You just don’t get it.... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I see Labour has suspended Trevor Philips for daring to criticise Muslims 4 years ago. I’m sure it’s got absolutely nothing to do with Philips saying he couldn’t vote for labour because of antisemitism in the party, they’ve just taken 4 years to notice his comments. I wonder what Sir Kier Starmer will make of that, seeing as he’s philips local MP. I’m sure it’ll be a load of waffle & pony. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Confirmed case in Poole now. They’re deep cleaning a local gym. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

It was clearly a red and the VAR worked perfectly in tandem with the referee, reaching the right decision. Had their guy deserved a red, the VAR would have advised the ref to review that as well. Some people are so biased they can’t see what’s bleeding obvious. I doubt there’s one neutral who thought either decision wrong. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk