Lord Duckhunter

?????? The point being debated by me was that Clinton was unelectable. You appear to agree. I wasn’t debating the rights or wrongs of the system, just her electability under that system. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

If they didn’t pay the players or cut their wages unilaterally the players are entitled to a free transfer. That’s the rules I’m afraid, nothing to do with your refund. If you feel you have a case, go to your credit or debit card company & ask for a charge back. If your complaint is legitimate they’ll do so & you’ll get your money back. I did so over a Ryanair flight, the credit card provider told me the measure used is “reasonable”. Was it reasonable that Ryan air unilaterally issued me a voucher & then said I could have a cash refund if that voucher wasn’t used in a year. The CC people, didn’t think that reasonable so got my money back for me . The club will say a refund will be forthcoming once the games rearranged and either, you can’t make it, or it’s behind closed doors. I suspect the card company will deem that reasonable. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Here’s a thought . Maybe some people think it’s safe to play, that playing or not playing won’t make a blind bit of difference in the grand scheme of things. Some people even believe that life is risky & whilst not unaware of the potency of the virus, believe staying in doors & hiding under our beds isn’t going to make it go away. These people aren’t murderers or killers, or even selfish, they just have a different opinion than you. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

And against the most flawed candidate in living memory. If you can’t get elected fighting The Donald, I’m afraid you’re unelectable. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

The one who gets elected. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Dear god, this is like trying to debate Forrest Gump Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

What’s that got to do with anything? Is that proof that Clinton was electable, not getting elected against the most flawed candidate a presidential election has ever seen? You lefties just don’t get it do you, just keep on losing, and still don’t get it. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

What the hells the matter with you people, Covid deranged syndrome?

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Just because something is even more extreme, it doesn’t make something else less extreme. We have extreme measures, putting nearly the whole economy into hibernation, is extreme. Making people too scared to go and get medical advice, is extreme. You have even more extreme measures. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The reaction to it is comparable to lots of things. You’re saying that although The Government, The PFA, the Premier league believe it’s safe to play behind closed doors, we can’t because a few chumps might watch it with their mates, or god forbid turn up outside the ground to listen to the players shouts. By that logic you wouldn’t open B&Q, not because they haven’t got safe practises in store or in their car park, but because some random people may not adhere to them. If you don’t think it’s self to play yet, fine, that’s a legitimate view. But once it is, it shouldn’t be subject to an idiots test. It’ll never start again. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Pony You just made that up. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Dear god, you think Hilary Clinton was electable. Almost anyone vaguely electable would have beaten him. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Just as well that I wasn’t t comparing drink driving to the virus then. The comparison I made was between banning something because others might abuse it. If you deem football safe to play & the players, officials & assorted staff safe to do their jobs, banning it because other people may not behave properly, is like banning drinking because some may do so & then drive. Would you ban Southampton V Portsmouth because people may not behave properly whilst the game was going on. Of course not. It’s either safe to play or it isn’t. How people may or may not behave because of it should be irrelevant. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Who on earth thinks if we’d carried on everything would be alright. That’s a straw man if ever I saw one. Even Peter Hitchens one of the most vocal lockdown critic accepts there needed to be measures and these measures would affect the economic output. The issue is whether the extreme measures put in place were an over reaction, and whether that over reaction will eventually cost us more jobs and years of extra misery than was required, without saving any extra lives. It’s a perfectly legitimate question to ask, and a perfectly valid opinion to have. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

So you’re going to stop millions watching a game because a few half wits wont obey the rules. Get a grip man. If football, cricket or any pastime can be played in relative safety, you can’t stop it because of what other people might do. People might drink too much & drive home, you don’t ban alcohol because of it. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

It’s simple really. Trump supporters won’t care, they’ll vote for him regardless. They’ll vote for a sex pest. Biden’s supporters may stay at home, not wanting to vote for a hypercritical sex pest. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

The BBC we’re actually pretty good during the purdah period. The were pretty balanced & probably as neutral as it’s possible to be. The period following, particularly after Mays dog breakfast of an election campaign, they’ve been horrendously biased. Too much air time given to the Gaukes, Stewart’s & Hestletine’s along with underserved fawning over Soubry & her gang of loons. My argument is impartiality is impossible as individuals values & thoughts will always cloud editorial decisions. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

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It wasn’t apparent at all. It’s only apparent if you believe Ferguson’s model. Let’s see how Sweden get on & see whether this time Ferguson’s got it right. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

That’s the accusation, yes. It’s pretty irrelevant what trumps done, his voters don’t care. The people who do care will either hold their nose & vote for a milder sex pest, or not vote for either. Too many of the latter and The Donald gets back in. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Biden, the man who proclaimed that all women should be believed when raising sexual harassment, the Me Too poster boy has been accused of.........sexual harassment. When the claims first aired, him and his supporters asked why hadn’t she come forward earlier (a question they refused to ask the “victim” of Judge Kavanaugh whilst Biden was persecuting him). There then appeared a Larry King clip from the 90’s where the women’s mother rang in to say that her daughter was sexually harassed, and today a court document emerges from 1996, where her ex husband states the same. So it looks like she did allege this at the time & Biden’s office covered it up. Trump’s going to have a field day over this. Now, clearly Trump is a sleaze ball as well, but you can’t really go round being the right on leftie, grandfather of MeToo, whilst being a grubby little sex pest. I also don’t recall trump ever announcing that any accuser should be believed. Trump’s sleaze is also factored in with any voter. This may grow and hurt Biden, not because any of his supporters will switch to trump off the back of it, or any republicans thinking of voting for him will go back to Trump. But many may now not vote, and that could let trump in. Even if it doesn’t the irony of soft arsed leftie feminists holding their nose & voting for a sex pest will be delicious. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I thought it was ok. Clever & obviously a bit different subject matter. Although sometimes I get the impression he’s deliberately being “brave” & addressing a taboo subject & it therefore becomes a bit forced. Kind of like a poor mans Larry David. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Hasn’t changed at all. As you say, before lockdown I supported measures to slow down the virus & protect the venerable. I didn’t support trashing the economy & millions of jobs being put at risk. A limited lockdown should have been in place to ensure the NHS could cope, and we wouldn’t have people dying in hotel corridors. But, people who could work should have continued to do so. Just wait till the furlough scheme is wound up, then see the mayhem & job losses that follow. Then let’s see how a political class of pinkos & soft arsed lefties go about paying the money back. They won’t raise taxes, are frightened to death of austerity, so they’ll probably reduce the debt by letting inflation rip. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

403,000 people died of malaria in Africa in 2017 , that’s a treatable preventable disease. 1.5 million people died of TB in 2018. Up to 143,000 die of cholera each year. All round the world nations are expected to live with these diseases, the west won’t spend billions eradicating them, yet as soon as soon as something threatens a few thousand of our citizens, we hide away indoors. I’m pretty sure if Africa, India, & other countries can live with far deadlier diseases, then we can live with Covid without trashing the economy & piling up eye watering amounts of debt for future generations to deal with. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk