Lord Duckhunter

Cameron said he'd fight for turkeys membership and said the EU was stronger with turkey in both & 2010 & 2015 Every EU member has signed a deal stating that turkeys mermbership will be “re-energised" , they will also get Visa free access to most of The EU. In 1975 you would be laughed at if you claimed Romania & Poland would be joining in future.

I did enjoy it . Funny how the rest of Hoeys answer was left off your clip , and the monstering Neil gave the Remainain over Georges dodgy dossier . Perhaps you should watch the whole programme . Anyway Hoey is one person , the treasury document is supposed to be a serious analysis . Perhaps you'll also answer why a model of household income never used before was used ( as I said it would equate to over 60k per household now) and how any economic model can have credibility when they've taken a growth forecast for 2030, immigration forecasts for 2030 (185k year on year) but kept the number of households at 2016 levels . **** me , there's going to be some crowded houses if we stay in . If remain had such a good case why use dodgy statistics

This Treasury report is laughable . Andrew Neil took it apart on Daily Politics today . They guess GDP over a decade ahead , despite the fact that they couldn't predict GDP 2 years ahead 2 years ago. They have never measured household income by the dividing GDP before , if they did that now the average household income would be over 60k, a laughable figure. Even if you accept that ludicrous equation you would have thought they'd take 2030's GDP and divide it by the estimated number of households, but no , despite estimating the number of households ( and accepting immigration will rise by 185k per year) they have divided the 2030 GDP estimate by the number of households in 2016. It's nonsense like this that leads to distrust in Government figures , unfortunately there are not enough Andrew Neil's to pick apart this sort of propaganda.

Spurs games really depend on state of season . Chelsea will be tough as they wont want to lose a local derby . If we're still in with a shout of Europa , that'll be tough and I wouldn't want to go to Newcastle with them needing something to stay up .

In 2010 Cameron said he supported Turkeys membership and said he would campaign for it. In 2014 Cameron said the Eu would be stronger with turkey in and would support their membership In 2016 the whole of eu signed a deal with turkey that agreed to "re-energise" Turkey's bid to join the European bloc, with talks due by July. In view of the above , you are talking nonsense .

They won at WHL , when spurs bottled the big game. The league is 9 months, not 9 weeks. The league winners will be the best team , end of

Agreed , they clearly are the best . 5 points ahead of Leicester , unbeaten against them in the league and even won at the King Power.....

You can't suspend collective responsibility & then say " The Government ". " The majority of the Government "or "members of The Government " should be used. In the coalition they would use " the Tory members of the government " in the event of a split . You have to have collective responsibility to use " the government believes ".

Taxpayer funded spending should be equal . A general election is slightly different as its not a two sided thing . You can't have the tax payer bunging the monster raving loons or the lib/dumbs the same dosh as serious parties. The government have a view & taken a side , that side should get the same tax payers money as the other side . 3 leaflets delivered to every home , 1 from each side & an explanation from the electrol commission sounds pretty reasonable to me , and to the rest of the country I would imagine .

The issue isn't the content of the leaflet , or even the fact one was sent . It's the fact that the government went against advise from the electrol commission and the fact they spent £9million extra of tax payers money . Each side get one leaflet and there's going to be one from the electrol commission setting out the process . If the government put out a leaflet one week prior to the purdah period before a general election , a leaflet claiming all sorts of government facts I'm sure you'll be one of the first to complain . How is one side spending an extra £9 million of taxpayers money , money denied to the other side, fair ?

There's no Barca version of Rupert Lowe to make the appointment

There's about as much chance of mp managing Barca as Matt Le Tiss managing the skates .

Reid was on a yellow for a pretty poor challenge , he then made a foul down the touch line as bad as Vardys first yellow and Moss didn't issue second yellow

Everyone going on about Vardy diving seem to overlook the complete & utter joke of the first yellow . Had Mane ( another diver) been sent off for those 2 yellows this place would be in meltdown . Moss was shocking , it's not in the refs gift to suddenly decide someone needs a yellow to take the sting out of the game , after he's let worse ones go without booking anyone . It's not in the refs gift to overlook pulling in the box & then warn the centre halves " do it again and I'll give a pen" . Henry & Heskey saying the one on Huth wasn't a peno because he'd let Huth have 2 " free" tug backs without giving a pen and hadn't warned West Ham back 4. What a load of pony , if it's a pen it's a pen . You can't give pens using a totting up procees . Really poor , no way a pen at the end either , laughable. As for the bitterness against Leicester , **** me , what a bunch of bitter twts . It's a great story , they fully deserve it . Instead of crying about how poor the league is , we should take a bit of heart that anything is possible in the next few years . Just because it wasn't us that upset the applecart doesn't suddenly make it an easy league to win . I ****ing hope city become champions of Europe to ram it down you miserable sods throats , mind you you'll probarly complain Barca are shiete this year .

The remain camp are redefining " control of our borders " to mean we check everyone's passport upon entry. To me control of our borders means letting in who we want in the numbers we want. We can not control how many Welsh or Scottish passport holders come to work in England & nobody will claim we can, in fact you would be laughed at if you claimed we could. Equally you can't stop anyone with a Polish, Romanian or Greek passport doing the same. That is a simple fact, why most remain bods won't concede it, I really don't know.

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But there's negatives and then there's OTT nonsense bordering on lies . A few short months ago Cameron said if he didn't obtain substantial reform he'd vote to leave . Now he claims there will be meltdown if we leave . It's just not credible . What is credible is saying we're quite capable of going it alone , can do well , but will be better off in for xyz reasons. Robertson did say that in his opinion there will be job loses, but he didn't make nonsense claims around 3 million jobs . Just to get a leave supporter to admit you can't control your borders when you're in the Eu, is near on impossible , so it was refreshing to hear him saying " you can not control your borders " but this or that out weighs that particular negative . The other leave half bakes will not say " we can't control our borders in the EU" even though it is a blatant fact .

Good to see Angus Robertson making a proper defense of the EU on QT last night. Admitted you cant control borders when a member, saying the leaflet was wrong ,saying the remain side is playing on people's fears. Basically saying there's a lot wrong with the EU , but on balance the positives outweigh the negatives and he'll campaign on the positives . What a difference from the stay or Domesday approach from most of the remain liars . One telling exchange was during the question about tax. An audiance member stated vat hit the poorest the hardest and should be abolished . The Labour plum said " hear hear" . Dan Hannan ( as impressive as ever) then pointed out that it's against EU law to abolish vat and the only way to do so would to be to leave. Dimble cut him off saying " not everything is about Europe . Now , people claim they want facts. That is a fact , yet a top presenter on the tax payer funded bbc , wouldn't let that fact be discussed. Shameful .

You clearly didn't read it correctly and thought you were being clever.

Why don't you read what was written before jumping to your pathetic conclusions . He sent it back to The Tories not the government , therefore they pay for it , not the tax payer. Doh

Where does this " he clearly has talent " come from ? Anybody playing professional football " clearly has talent " , but if talent just involved a bit of ball control or being able to pass the ball Mr Woo would have played at the top level . Proper players show their talent when other people are trying to stop you . If you can't do that you're nothing more than a show pony or flat track bully .

It's pretty hard to have a sensible debate on this until lefties understand the difference between tax avoidance & tax evasion.

He had his chance with us and blew it. Not nearly good enough . He had a chance to redeem himself with Hull & blew it. Not good enough. He's now playing at his level and some are wetting themselves with excitement, why? They wouldn't want us to sign a championship player thats failed at 2 different premiership clubs would they?

The government have played fast and loose with this and are trying to gerrymander the vote . In 1975 there was no electrol commission , but Cameron has been playing from Wilsons play book from day one . At least Wilson had the balls to put his name to his " piece of paper " . The electrol commission are producing a leaflet sent to everyone outlining certain facts. Each side get one mail shot each to put their interpretation on the facts and give their side , for the Governmemt to then produce this is pretty low . Then again did anyone ever think the Establishment would ever conduct themselves any different. I'm sure lefties would be up in arms if just outside the purdah period of a general election the Tories did this explaining " facts" around the Parliament 2015-2020 . To me an independent mail shot from the electrol commission & one from each side is reasonable and fair .

How many pot bellied northerners go on holiday to Turkey ?