Lord Duckhunter

I hope Frys right , but I just can't see it . Brits are pretty conservative ( with a small c ) and I just can't see them rocking the boat and leaving . Cameron should have ****ed this , but his awful campaign and the loss of credibility of his buddy Gideon , will make it closer than it should be . Had Dave campaigned on the basis that he didn't get what he wanted but after careful thought had decided now was not the time to leave and he was a reluctant remainer , it would have been like the AV one , a shoe in for the status quo . He's made a monumental misjudgement and its deservedly cost Gideon the top job . Leave just lacked a credible spokesman from the left to win , a Tony Benn . The ironic thing is had Corbyn lost the leadership by a squeak , it would have been him and he could have won it for us . It'll be close in England imo , but the rest will make the result look slightly better . The European question will not be answered and the English question will grow & grow. It's been a disaster for national unity , and the country is more politically divided than I've ever known . I'll go for 53%-47% remain

Isobel Hardman on newsnight tonight saying that the remain labour MP's she speaks to have changed their tune . 6 weeks ago it was all about getting their vote out but now theyre saying they don't particularly want their people to vote.

If you don't make our lunch date I will open the door for millions of economic migrants to flood Costa Coffee

Drunken Juncker pops Jezza and others " let's stay and reform from inside" balloon by announcing there is no more reform "British voters have to know there will be no kind of any negotiation. We have concluded a deal with the prime minister. He got the maximum he could receive, and we gave the maximum we could give, so there will be no kind of renegotiation." Dave said yesterday " vote in Thursday and my renegotiation continues Fri" . lol , no it doesn't Dave Great intervention the day before polling , perhaps deep down he wants us to leave .

So the guy running round shouting "Brits don't quit" , is quitting ?

See Cameron's buddy Sugar getting it from both sides after saying Giesla a German shouldn't tell Brits what to do . Doubt the bbc will mention it though , it's not like Farage said it .

And you call other people dumb & ignorant ?

Chris Coleman

Let's look at some facts before throwing accusations about lies. It is British government policy for turkey to join the EU Thir embassy in turkeys website says it is working towards turkey joining The pm has repeatedly ( prior to the referendum) said he wants turkey to join, is its strongest advocate of it joining and the EU is safer with turkey in. The EU recently did a deal where their membership was accelerated. We have paid 1billion pounds to a fund to help turkey join. It is Eu policy for turkey to join. The pm refused 4 times to say he'll veto their membership . Now you can say that you still don't think they'll join, that's an opinion, but in light of the above its not a lie. If it's a lie , let's stop giving them money to help them join. We need it hete If it's a lie let's stop civil servants working on it. If it's a lie let the prime minister say he'll use his veto. And if it's a lie let's have the Eu & our government change its policy.

Pathetic , I thought your comment that you were undecided was stupid , but you've outdone that with this nonsense. You're becoming a bit of a joke

He's also tweeted 10 mins ago that she will had a strong voice in the remain campaign and will be missed by it . Funny because I hadn't seen her put up on one debate , one tv interview or political show & not read one national newspaper article written by her . But evidently she'll be a big loss to Remain campaign

I've not seen one person saying we should stop immigration & send immigrants home . I'm sure you wouldn't just make things up , so I look forward to you providing the link .

I was undecided before this thread started , but having read opinions from people I don't know and who post anonymously, I'm voting out .

Of all the claims , counter claims , lies , propaganda and outright bs from both sides , the funniest one is Tim claiming he was " undecided"

Yeah , let's let him run his contract down , play shiete, and get nothing for him this time next year . Good plan

**** me , how much do people think Pellegrini would want . I'd be amazed if we could afford him and even more amazed if he'd come to us for the type of money we'd pay . Let's get real .

Why would he ? He's a ****ing old has been . If you think Everton fans would prefer him to Ron , you're deluded

Now , I'm sure you're just being obtuse , but to give you the benefit of the doubt as I'm a generous soul . I said " off the top of my head " I could name half a dozen better players than him. " Off the top of my head " is normally used to indicate that without thinking ( something I'm sure you'll accuse me of ) there is something better . I was merely trying to point out that in my humble opinion Morgan is not a " great " player , in fact he's not even " great" in Southampton terms, but you knew that was what I meant , so don't really understand your post

What I you mean , already ? It's 9.30 pm , I'm not a metro sexual hipster , I'm a 50 something dinosauR having a snifter on my way home from work..

So they have to have managed a " big team " then ? Aberdeen , is that a big team . What about Huddersfield ? This Europe stuff is nonsense , Woy had managed all over Europe & managed big clubs , do you want him?

I remember reading an article about Moyes in which his approach to scouting was the main hook . Evidently he had a room at Everton that only the coaches and scouts used . It that room were walls ( obviously ) but on those walls were the side he had now , and then players in every position that could replace those players in the short , med and long term . It was like a hard version of the black box . It was reckoned that this room co-ordinated every move months and years in advance . I'm not saying I want Moyes , but he's not some sort of Arry Redknapp " go out and play son " sort of manager

Not on here it wouldn't . The metro sexual football manager playing hipsters need a Monsieur who managed Montpellier before taking charge of Perpinan and leading that team of youngsters to 6th . Unfortunately he was sacked by Young boys of Berne , but Poch was sacked , so that's a good thing .

He is not a " great " player . Off the top of my head I could name half a dozen better Saints midfielders than him .

We've got too many posters too far up their own backsides . Sorry but I'm not trendy , don't play Football manager , or know the manager of Nantes who moved to Malaga in 2014 with a 47% win record , but played the nippers . I don't want to sound like an old dinosaur but had this happened last season and someone suggested Ramieri all the Euro hipsters would have wet themselves laughing . Ryan Giggs - not good enough , not foreign enough , ditto David Moyes & Stebe Bruce . Wjat worked before ain't necessarily going to work again . Giggs will have the respect of the players , has played at the highest level , learnt his trade under one of the greatest managers who ever lived , but is not good enough for us . I don't know if he's worth a go , that's what les reed is paid to decide . Les will be talking to contacts , tapping into sir Alex's knowledge and if he goes with Giggs, that's good enough for me . I just hope his not trying to replicate the sucsess we had with Poch & Ron by appointing by formula . As Leicester showed sometimes thinking out of the box is the best option

They were starting to lose the plot, but because of yesterday they will now calm down a bit which will get them over the line. The only way out will be when the whole stinking corrupt vessel goes down