Lord Duckhunter

Lets face it, NC could have given Nigel a 10 year contract or even employed SAF and Le Tiss would still find something to run to the press to moan about . I get the feeling he wont be happy until he's made honorary president and Franny team Manager.

Treats people like what? Like Nicola treated Nigel or Nigel treated Deano, Sharpe and Dan Harding? Because from where I'm sat,they received exactly the same treatment. The person making the decision decided to get someone else in they thought would do a better job. Now, can can agree or disagree with the decision, but all this soft talk is getting embarrassing.

The ignorance showed towards our club and towards MP has astounded me. You had the European journos and the European Managers saying they'd heard of him, knew all about him, was a bright young Manager, and the rest saying he's a nobody. It hit a low when that fat chump Mick Quinn opening his show yesterday by saying "I have a question for MP, WHO ARE YA". I had a face palm moment, Quinn a fat journeyman player, asking an Argie international and respected young coach, "who are Ya".

Only it's not a neutral and fair viewpoint. He's made his mind up NC-Bad, Adkins-good. Substitute Adkins for Pardew and he could have rewritten his story from 3 years ago. Perhaps something along the lines of: "NC did a similar thing to Alan Pardew, and despite widespread disbelief at this decisions (including from this correspondent) it turned out to be a master stroke. Only time will tell if NC has got it right again."

Where have I said that? What it is however is people like Winter thinking they know more about the game than NC and others. You only have to watch the Sunday Supplement to see the Winters, Samuals and Cross' of this world pontificating on football, where Managers have gone wrong, where owners have gone wrong. Winter does not know what's gone on behind the scenes, what prompted this decision and after slagging NC over sacking Pards should keep his mouth shut until we see how it pans out.

I'm sick of the negative media coverage over this. They were all up in arms over the sacking of Pardew, yet I haven't seen one hack saying in hindsight they were wrong and NC was right. Life is not just black and white, decisions are not just black and white. If NC had listened to Matt and Lawrie, then I'm sure we'd have Dodd or some other crony of Lawrie or his son managing the club. Lawrie and Matt are two of my heroes, I think most Saints supporters are great, but none are qualified to run the club. A quote I heard Players Play Managers Manage Supporters Support, Who did I hear saying that in an interview? Lawrie Mac .............

Guillem Balague said on Talk sport that his English was ok, also said he was highly educated ,the interviewer then said "I'm yet to met an intelligent Argentinian that doesn't understand and speak ok English. " Maybe, just maybe his English is better than people think, but he thought it a smart move to defuse some questions by using an interpreter. There is a world of difference between speaking about football to multi national professional footballers and speaking to a room full of hacks looking to hang you out to dry.

Whether they are hard working or not is irrelevant. You could find people the world over who work harder than the average Brit, should we let them all in as well.

Whilst countries that dont belonging to the EU, like Switzerland and Norway have plunged into the dark ages. Look how the standard of living has fallen in New Zealand and Australia since the 70's, they dream of having EU living standards. Dream of being able to live like Greeks and Bulgarians . It's all down to the EU, all hail the EU.

Invested, not spent If I was a Leiberr I'd be pretty pleased with how Nicola was managing my investment.

Pretty pathetic and a bit disrespectful towards Nigel if you ask me. There was never any doubt in my mind that the players will just get on with it. They are used to changes, managers coaches other players leave all the time. They will still want to prove themselves to the new guy as they will want to play in the Premiership. For every player sad that Nigel's gone, there will be one pleased that he may now get a chance or be used in the proper position. You don't get 20 Argie caps and play in la liga by being a mug, so he'll know a bit about the game, how to run a session, and also have a decent touch if involved. Early doors, they'll be respectful and enthusiastic, it's whether he can maintain and grow that ,which will make or break his career here.

I can see the open letter now. Dear Liebherrs That Nicola that your Dad put in charge of the club, you know that club that he took from League 1 with -10 to the biggest money making league in world football. Well he doesn't know what he's doing, and has just sacked a really nice man.We are really really upset about it. How on earth can you let this man continue to manage your investment, apart from making loads of Premiership TV money for you,so you can sell at a massive profit, what else has he done?. Regards Saints fans. PS, we want a fan on the board, some of us are Ebay sellers so are used to business.

Come on!!!!! Getting out of League 1 was a given, a lot of Managers could have done that on our budget. Out of the Championship, pretty good , but any better than Phil Brown at Hull (who also kept them up), Owen Coyle at Burnley, Hollowhead at Blackpool. I would suggest that getting Hull, Burnley and Blackpool up was equally as tough as getting a quite expensively assembled Saints squad up. I'm not knocking Nigel or what he achieved at this club, but the over reaction from some of our fans is like we've thrown out the English Mourinho. Time will tell how good he'll be, but personally I doubt he'll get another Premiership job and will have to take a team up from the Championship to manage at this level again. Premiership history is littered with guys who did a great job getting up, even in some cases staying up, but failing after that. George Burley, Paul Jewell, Phil Brown are three off the top of my head. Paul Jewell even did it with two clubs, yet you'd be laughed out the room if you suggested he was England Manager material.

Spot on. He's running the club and under his leadership we've gone from -10 in League 1, to spending £12 mil on a bright young talent. All in just 3 and a bit seasons. What a ride we've had. But some want to say "this is where I get off". There's been a hell of a lot of casulties on the way, from Mark Wotte to Billy Sharpe, Nigel is just the latest. A great guy and a fantastic gentlemen, but NC has yet to put a foot wrong, so I'm giving him the benefit of doubt.

Makes you wonder how we ever got by without Eastern European's picking our fruit, serving our meals, cleaning our offices ect ect ect. As Nigel Farage pointed out on QT, veg got picked prior to Poland ect joining the EU, it's just that British people did it and got paid a higher wage. Here's the rub, we have no choice. You could decide that you think it's right to pay slightly more for your veg, for your pizza in Prezzo, for your fruit, if it meant British people off the dole queue and into work. You might prefer cheaper services with more Brits on the dole, and higher taxes to pay for them. But, the choice is not ours to make.

Reminds me of this one, I couldn't be arsed to listen to some of our fans reaction to our Lady Di moment, but I hope and pray they weren't as bad as this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=s_JVekPzUVo

Did Nigel ditch Deano the right way or the wrong way?

Does all this moral outrage apply to players ditched and moved on or just Managers?

Does the "riding roughshod over employees" extend to Nigel's treatment of Dean Hammond and Dan Harding. "After all the Lowe times I thought we had hit rock bottom and things couldn't get any worse, perhaps I was wrong". No you were right, the summer before Cortese and Marcus rode into town, was slightly worse than the time that a Argie international with a half decent reputation in Spain was appointed as Manager of our Premier League side.

I love the way things have been twisted and rewritten as if we were going to be safe under Nigel. It was going to the wire with Nigel.

Exactly, had Saint Nigel been approached by Liverpool last summer, he'd have been off like a shot. This is turning into our very own Lady Di moment, some need to get a grip.

So you think the Manager should stick with players he doesn't believe are good enough for sentimental reasons? What about Kelvin, great story, from turning down West Ham to captaining us through the leagues to redeem himself in the Premiership. In Nigel's eyes he wasn't quite good enough, so he ditched him, same with Deano. NC doesn't feel Nigel is quite good enough, but has to keep him so you can be proud of the club?

I wouldn't have done it, but then again I wouldn't have sacked Pardew or even appointed Adkins in the first place. It's NC's job to make these sort of decisions, not mine, and so far he's done a ****ing good job. He knows more about running a football club than I do, and all of the posters on here do. Had Marcus put one of us in charge of the club, I doubt we'd be where we are now. NC is no Lowe when it comes to managers 2 wrong for every one right. He's been spot on every time. In my eyes that affords him time to be judged this time round.People are saying it is wrong, before a ball has been kicked.

So were you up in arms when Nigel displayed this "win at all costs" attitude towards Dean Hammond, surely he deserved a chance in the Premiership. Or Kelvin, surely he deserved better that being dumped for a kid and then a Nutter. He may have cost us a few goals, but football's about more than just winning.