Lord Duckhunter

Why are you wasting so much time & effort posting on the Isreal thread. No amount of words on here will change situation in Gaza. Actually, why bothering posting at all, might as well close the site down as it won’t change anything.

Not in the last 2 seasons he fucking hasn’t

That’s what used to wind me up about Ralph. Giving it the old Klopp pony when we won and skulking down the tunnel when we lose. Lego is going down that route as well. That fucking wobbling your hands pony is fucking Noddy. Win lose or draw away from home come over & give a quick clap to the guys who have travelled, and at home fuck off down the tunnel until we’ve actually won something or it’s the last game.

He thinks Jews & Israelis are the same thing, so you shouldn’t be surprised.

Fucking hell, it’s Sunak & Starmers fault. Unbelievable. You’ve spent years banging on about Tommy Robinson, Farage & Katie Hopkins, going on about hate, about racism, but when given real examples of hate against a particular group going up at an unbelievable rate, when kids safety can’t be guaranteed, you blame the politicians and not the people with real hate running through their veins. For all you pious righteousness, you’ve proved it was never about the victims and all about you showing what a “good person” you are. Pathetic…

He said “choreographed after a win”, so I can’t really understand your moaning, you wouldn’t have to see it very much.

Interesting discussion on the radio regarding this last night. One of the contributors (I think he worked for Netaynau previously), said that their involvement would be down to Iran, and on balance he felt Iran will want Hezbollah to step back from a full scale attack. He felt the US Carrier in the Med & their unequivocally support of Isreal the past week will inform that decision. He reckons they’ll fire a few rockets as a token gesture, but will step back. The general consensus was The US won’t get directly involved, but if Hezbollah do go full out, they will use their anti missile kit (he mentioned ships surrounding the air craft carrier that have this capability) to protect Israeli cities.

That’s exactly what it is. Apart from one against Sunderland, no keeper alive would have saved any other the others. He hasn’t got foam wrists either, every shot he faces is a Peter Lorimer cannonball effort & the miracle is that he gets his hand to them. His positioning is also first class, the issue isnt him, it’s the fucking groundsman. He puts the goal in the wrong place.

I did say that I can’t speak for the military or millions of Israeli people. However, in 2 days I probably spoke to more Israelis about his than most people have in their lifetime. There was absolutely no desire for their Government to do anything other than crush Hamas. It was early days and the full horror of what happened hadn’t really become apparent, but I was struck by the lack of real hatred towards the Palestinian people as a whole. It was solely towards Hamas . I heard worse about The Irish when the IRA were blowing up our cities. Young people in particular were not war mongers, and there was a genuine sadness about what is going to happen. There are clearly hardliners that will take a different approach & those people are in positions of power, but there definitely wasn’t a desire for blood thirsty revenge amongst the general population I met. Whilst it won’t stop The Government in the short term, I don’t think there will be the pressure for this to go on and on, and they will get a bit of wiggle room when they eventually have to “normalise” the situation.

Their motives are clearly to destroy Hamas & most probably their supporters . I don’t know whether they want to “punish” ordinary Palestinians who want to live in peace, but I doubt it. I can’t speak for The Government or millions of Israeli’s but I did speak to dozens & dozens on Sat & Sun morning whilst Hamas tried to blow us up, and to a man & women every single one understood the difference between Hamas & ordinary folk. Every single one was sad about the fate that was going to befall these innocents. However, they were resolute in their views that Hamas had ultimately cost these people their lives, as it was a consequence of their actions Sat morning.

“Egypt, nestled to the southwest of the Gaza Strip, has been in discussions with the United States and other stakeholders to provide vital humanitarian assistance via its border with the troubled region. However, it remains resolute in its opposition to allowing refugees from Gaza to enter its territory.” https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2023/10/358262/egypt-rejects-safe-corridors-for-gaza-refugees-focusing-on-humanitarian-aid

Anyone who doesn’t think Hamas are sub human needs to have a good look in the mirror. What they did on Saturday was sub human and every right minded person should be angry. The fact you don’t seem to think so is telling and tells us a lot about you.

I actually wrote “these” Palestinian’s (as in ones that want Isreal wiped out), but don’t let that stop you twisting my words. There’s plenty of Palestinian’s living in Isreal, it’s an incredibly tolerant and diverse society. As tolerant and diverse as any European country I’ve ever visited, and more so than most. Thousands of Gaza citizens used to cross the border & work in Isreal without any problem at all. Perhaps when things are back to normal you should visit it and then you may form a better understanding of the Israeli people, and their attitude towards other religions, races & sexual orientation . You could have visited last week, but can’t this. I wonder whose fault that is, probably The Jews. The Egyptians, who could open their border & allow safe passage for women & children out of Gaza, but choose not to. Yet not one of you peaceniks seem to have an issue with this.

What a ridiculous comparison. The IRA didn’t want to murder every single British person on earth. The IRA accepted the British state’s right to exist & the IRA were prepared to sit down & discuss a peace process.. if you ran every single Jew out of Isreal & handed it to the Palestinian’s these fucking deprived sub humans would still be murdering Jews whenever they could.

Target Hamas? You do release they build shelters, tunnels amongst the civilian population, they use them as human shields. Unfortunately, you can’t wipe out Hamas without a massive loss of innocent lives. Ultimately, these innocents are dying because Hamas attacked Isreal last Saturday morning, that’s why Gaza is being flattened. There’s also a reason the Egyptian’s aren’t opening up the Rafah crossing for a safe corridor, and that’s because they want to maintain the “peace” and cooperation they have with Isreal. They don’t want these Palestinians living amongst them any more than the Israelis do. Israelis stepped back from wiping out Hamas before, they won’t do so again. Unfortunately, thousands of their fellow Palestinians are going to pay the ultimate price, but their “militants” knew that when they went on the rampage. I was drinking in Tel Aviv, this time last week, & Gaza wasn’t being flattened. Young Israelis were looking forward to a music festival, & Israeli families were enjoying time with their families. That’s all changed this week, and there’s only one group of people responsible for the change, and it’s not the Israeli’s.

So what should Isreal have done after Saturday’s attacks?

So what proportional action should Isreal have taken. I keep reading about the response being disproportionate, so what was a proportional response? Nobody saying Isreal acted disproportionately has answered that.

So what would you call proportionately, how do you think Isreal should have acted? Asked the UN to pass a resolution maybe. Perhaps negotiate with the “militants” & kindly ask them to hand over the perpetrators so they could be put on trial in Israel. What do you consider proportionate and what action do you think Isreal should have taken to maintain the delicate “peace” that existed in the area last Friday.

I’ve amended it for you…

Yes, it is a bit hard to understand. Probably because it’s not true.

Simpson is full of shit. I’ve posted examples of the BBC naming various groups as terrorists, so it’s not true they never call anyone by that name. And Simpson himself called the Charlie Hebdo murderers terrorists as well as the “ militant “ the Millwall bloke done on London Bridge. Other than that, good point well made.

It’s not just the Government though is it? Kier Starmer has called for the BBC to call them terrorists. One thing for sure had Jewish citizens attacked Muslims at a music festival, dragged them back to Isreal after raping them, murdering their babies and the elderly, you and The BBC would damn we’ll call them terrorists. And you’re the one preaching about “double standards” in the media?

It’s interesting that the usual suspects don’t seem to be critical of Egypt, who could open their border & help the relive the suffering of their Arab brothers.