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Yeah, but by going on holiday he is standing up for the "working, average man's" right to go on holiday. If he didn't jet off to the sun he would be the emodiment of the bourgeoise-enslaved workhorse, alienated and dehumanised, cast adrift on the capitalist slag-heap of the soul. This holiday is good news for all average working men everywhere.

It's only a few internet weirdos and Echo rent-a-quotes who feel the need to be "communicated" too constantly like a small baby though. 99% of Saints' "customers" I expect are perfectly happy and looking forward to next season. "all this negativity" really doesn't exist outside the odd minds of a small number.

Oldham had an article about their cleaners' vacuums being serviced the other day

I think the pitch should be patterned in installments.

Because AA wants to run PFC as one of the biggest spending Championship clubs. Griffin have pointed out that this is absurd.

For those who can't be bothered to read the Griffin document, these two paragraphs sum it up in a nutshell: The Administrators have sought to strike a balance between the company and its creditors. We think that the Administrators have not placed enough emphasis on the position of creditors and the club will retain too much of the benefit of its recent expenditure on the team which will be available cheaply to any future owner. The proposals seek to allow the club to spend large sums on getting back to the FA Premier League but the creditors will not benefit substantially from this expenditure. Funnily enough, it's what a lot of us have been saying!

We can't "go after the bankers" because we now own many of the banks. The reason for that... it's certainly not the Tories. A typical left-wing attitude though that someone needs to be "gone after". Preferably someone doing well. Someone we we can drag down a peg or two. Teach them a lesson from the university of life. Give them a trip to the school of hard knocks... blah, blah, blah.

Can someone tell me what he said please?

He'll just say that unless PFC get relegated to the tyro league and the FA drink the blood of every citizen of portsmouth they have got away with it.

Probably that and the fact that CEOs of companies have more important things to do than correspond directly to all incomings. I suspect the reply will, quite properly, be a delegated one.

Yeah, my point is we don't know so it seems a little pointless to pick our a few figures and have a rant. As shirt sponsorship is unlikely to effect ticket sales it really is pointless to off-set the one against the other. We could have had the current ticket prices + a shirt sponsor and no one would be mentioning the shirt sponsorship whatsoever because it's not connected. I agree with your general points around the financing - we don't know for sure. As for Stu's main point, which is that the club will make more money this way... isn't that the point? Nothing to be ashamed of. Our prices are still reasonable for what must be the most expensive squad in the division (unless one of the relegated teams has a more expensive one). If you can't afford an ST, then you can't afford one. It's not the end of the world. If the policy results in average attendances and revenue falling then it will obvioulsy have failed. Bet it doesn't.

And a free shirt? For £1.25 a month?

The point I was making was that I don't see the logic in pointing just at the ticket prices and the shirt sponsorship. They are no more connected than any other two revenue streams.

Training ground, signings, cost of business purchase, wages for behind-the-scenes people at the top of their game etc... I don't know the figures and I am assuming money has been made available but it seems a bit selective to compare ticket revenues with sponsorship revenues and nothing else.

Oh, my goodness! Another one of the self-content uber complacent. This sort of attitude, that next season's signings shouldn't be signed this season, is the reason why England haven't won the World Cup since '66 and explains why Saints always, and I mean always, prepare terribly for the next season. Personally, I think Alpine has been rather conservative in his well-judged and eminently justifiable criticism. If anything we should be making our 2011-2012 signings now. Why wait until after the 2010-2011 season? Are you happy just writing off another season without having all the players we are going to sign during the following season? Well, if you are, let me tell you this; it is the path to ruin. And another thing, I bet we sign some players that are so rubbish any idiot will be able to tell they are rubbish without even watching them. That's another thing we always, and I mean always, get wrong.

There should be some sort of label on the front to warn people.

http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/news/Square-hosts-World-Cup-giant-screen/article-2274387-detail/article.html There will be one in Bristol. According to that article most cities, in fact nearly all cities, won't have a public screening.

Indeed. Slovenia will be a tougher match IMO. Very organised at the back and the kind of team our bunch of up-and-at'em cloggers will struggle against.

You do the average working person a disservice comparing him/her to these numpties.

Unbelievable!

Stuey, are you going to factor in the millions paid by Markus towards transfers, development etc.. in your "hand" analogy too?

Exactly, me too. Glad the membership scheme is coming back (assuming it is roughly the same as it used to be). No point buying a ST but I would like the opportunity of jumping the queue to whatever extent possible for popular games.

Fair enough, but you do come across as "the voice of The Echo" to many, I suspect, even if that is inadvertent.

Yes, I think there is. So I suppose they vote "yes" or don't vote at all for expediency then at some point in the following month say, "Er, we object now as we've had a claim issued in the High Court that goes to the heart of this proposal and the defendants do not admit the claim". I'm not sure what happens if someone objects... presumably AA has to get a court order to get the CVA approved or maybe the objector has to apply for an order to block it? Either way, I can't see HMRC willingly compromise their claim without any future recourse when this action is already underway.

Agreed. I can't really see how cashflow can be positive. It may be that the books look in good order though due to equity injections from the lovely Herr Liebherr.