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While we're on the subject. ground sharing between Saints, Pompey and Bournemouth really makes cents. To that we could allow the likes of Swindon to ground share Staplewood. An investment in a Rapid Rail link along the south coast to link up with St Mary's is really what's needed for such a project ever to see the light of day. And Southamptonshire is one city for the poster who said we need to be in the same city. 20 miles is no distant to travel for many football supporters across the globe.

When talking about Paris across the world, it is often referred to as GAY PARIS (pronounced Gay Parrreee!) What more befitting than nowadays, the actual Mayor of Paris is openly gay, doing a damned good job in the post. What's more he was in the running to head France's Socialist Party until this past weekend. Polls last week showed how well he has been accepted by the public and he was the favorite right up until the Party Congress last weekend for the post. Amazingly, when it came to the vote, this gentle-homme gay failed to convince his fellow (and presumedly non Gay) party officials, and left trailing to one woman and coming in joint second to another female, the tough talking feminist Mayor of Lille. In our society it takes all types and in order to ensure fair reflection efforts should be given to ensure that every minority has representation. By choosing the figure of 39 are we left with society having taken 39 steps as an indication that 39 gays is representive of the 1 in 10 homosexuals in today's Westminster?

Didn't I not post about the "Man in the Red and White Scarf" 8 months ago? It's always been on the cards when you take into consideration that Wilde is treading on dicey ground as a Tax Exil. Wilde was needed in order to force out Crouch and his cronies and happily went along with the plan. Wilde knows, as do a lot of folk, if they are to stand any chance of recuperating their money and keep the club from Administration, Lowe is your safest bet. Many don't like it but where are the alternatives? And why are Lowe and Wilde so silent? That's a question you ought to ask Gordon Brown too. Maybe because he who laughs last, laughs the longest!

This isn't just a problem with Jan but one with many managers. How often did Strachan say his players did their own thing and surprised him. It's psychological and this is what everyone is on about when they talk about not being able to relie always on young players. Theo and Bale suffered periods of loss of confidence and a manager really has to know his stuff to handle them when they do. In the trenches it was known as the bulldog spirit when British soldiers rose above all expectations when their backs up against a wall. Give them time, just as Jan has been instructed to do this season. Otherwise we all know that Rupert would have removed him by now.

That is completely ********!! The guy's 36 years old, the season is long and Jan's blooding the youngsters despite the disappointing results. Sure he and the players want to win, but it's clear at this time that this isn't the end all of what he's doing. Any teachers will give his student a shot and then have someone more well versed take over when the going gets tough. Jan's pushing these youngsters to the limit in the same way Wenger's doing, like the French Academies do. When the money's not there this is the way to exist, survive. In France all clubs aim to produce one or two players per season on the production line to sell in order to cover the season's overheads. Perry is a top pro, one of the best around, and he will be fighting fit and up for it and capable when we really need to gain the points. At the same time, you might find by then that the youngsters will have made the grade and Perry'll find it hard to get a look in. Don't forget the Svensson factor. The experienced players still at the club are those who are committed, who know the situation and are prepared to work with the youngsters. And I might say I'm exceptionally proud of each and every one of these fighting young guns and fully support what the club has set out to achieve.

Well, that ***** obviously realised that there's no point in flashy extras when the engine room needs sprucing up. No engine, no go. Get the engine room functioning and we can bring back the flashy extras and give them the proper service they deserve as top notch strikers, and the goals will soon follow. Please note also Fabio Capello's comments today on why he's deliberately not picking James for the Germany game and perhaps you'll cotton onto what that ***** is up to. This season is all about getting the lads established as a fighting spirit in this league and truly capable of gaining promotion. 2/3's of a long season to go and we're still very capable of a good run to see us standing a chance of the play offs. Had Euell not be sent off, who knows we might have got a couple of goals and the 3 points we so desperately need.

I take great exception at a comparison with such a superb professional as Chrissie Marsden. It's the sublime insult to Chris, to his memory as a Saints player, and who for me, and I'm sure a lot of others, was one of the last true pros to play for this club who gave everything when he played and led as captain by example. Pulis is light years from every being a Chris Marsden. The only comparison I can see is the final few months that Chris played at St Mary's when he was under great duress and suffering severe injury. Urggghhh!!!!

Charles Dickens couldn't have written a better script than this latest one being played out by those who've crawled back out from under their stone together with their same old agenda. What bitterness, what hatred! What they fail to see is that beggars can't be choosers and there ain't any one else prepared to foot the bill and save the club, or even put in the effort to work on it. I'm sorry but it's early days, just like it was our first season back in the Championship in November/December where some folk squeezed Harry, Dennis Wise and Co to ensure they jumped ship. It was then that we stood our best chance of a return to the Premiership. Done pretty well for themselves since leaving, quite the opposite to that bugger Burley. Keep pushing us over the edge and then wake up some day and find us ground sharing with the likes of Pompey and Cherries. Love unites whereas hatred and evil doers divide! That's just what these folk are up to. Dividing and ruling, over and over again. What a way to motivate, or bring confidence to a smashing group of young lads, who are prepared to give their all for a club whose supporter base is split right down the middle. Split by those who have an agenda and selfish motives and are constantly troublemaking. If their Leon Crouch is such a magnificent chappy, then why the hell has he failed over the past 3 years to put his money where he claims his heart is. "Penny for the guy sir?" Why, it's only pennies he's put up against what he should have done at the time. Just like the flash guy at the bar offering pints but who suddenly disappears when folk start expecting him to foot the bill for champagne. And who could believe there are folk on here championing the likes of Askham and Co? Especially, in the face of all their past venom written on this forum and thoseforums that came before and went in just the same way this one is heading. Mark my words, give it another couple of months and this forum will go the same way as the others and your 5 quids along with it. Let's see the lads win tomorrow as I am certain they will do. Jan is no fool and these young lads are worth 10 of the mercenaries that we've suffered over the past 5 years. And for what it's worth I'd far rather put my money on Rupert Lowe and Andrew Cowen turning this around than any of the other leaches that have walked the corridors of the Dell and St Mary's since Ted Bates retired as manager.

Harry was and still is a great manager but we mustn't forget that the C u n t came to Saints on a mission, paid and backed up by Milan Mandarec. Mandarec was prepared to got to all extremes to destroy Lowe and consequently Saints. He also needed Redknapp out of the way to cover up all their seedy dealings. As long as Harry remained at Pompey Milan himself was in great danger of being caught red handed. The events following Strachan's departure gave them the very opportunity they previously could never have dreamed would arrive on a plate for them. He and Harry knew at any time Harry'd be prepared to drop Saints and return to Pompey when things had died down.(at least that's what they wrongly guessed). Saints relegation is and always was Milan and Harry's doing. They needed Saints out of the Premiership and were prepared to do anything to ensure Pompey became the top team in the south. Alas, they hadn't reckoned on Reading very nearly pulling one over their plans. When things got tough the tough old Milan got going and left Harry at Skateville to look after the shop whilst he went off and took over Leicester. But for all the squabbling in the Boardroom we might of ended up with Milan taking over Saints. Keeping Saints up for Harry would have been a piece of cake but the way events turned out we all know he ensured we didn't. Lowe insisting on Harry playing the youngsters and he did do so the following season in the Cup matches just to prove they weren't up for it. Nowadays Harry's taking credit for discovering and blooding the likes of Walcott and Bale and Kenwyne Jones.

Precisely. The whole story is one big almighty cover up for the latest bung story involving Pompey, Harry and the Chief Money Launderer Detectives examine new claims in football corruption inquiry Justin Davenport, POLICE are investigating new evidence in the football corruption inquiry, the Standard can reveal today. City of London Police said they were examining further claims involving some of football's leading figures. New Tottenham manager Harry Redknapp is one of those at the centre of the investigation involving accusations of money laundering, conspiracy to defraud and false accounting. Birmingham City chairman David Sullivan, the club's managing director Karren Brady, Portsmouth's chief executive Peter Storrie, Leicester chairman Milan Mandaric, Charlton Athletic midfielder Amdy Faye and the agent Willie McKay are also named. All have been arrested and are on bail pending further inquiries. A file containing the results of the City's two-year inquiry into transfers and agents' fees had been delivered to the Crown Prosecution Service this summer with some insiders expecting a decision this month. Today, a City of London Police spokeswoman said: "As a result of recently received new information there is a need for further inquiries both in the UK and overseas." Police refused to give further details about the dramatic new evidence but it is expected the development will lead to the inquiry dragging on well into next year. Detectives are believed to have been liaising closely with specialist fraud lawyers attached to the Crown Prosecution Service. The announcement comes weeks after one football chairman criticised the City of London Police over what he described as a "protracted" investigation. David Gold, the Birmingham City chairman, described the process as "appalling" and accused the police of "chasing shadows". He said those arrested in the inquiry had been left feeling as though "a Sword of Damocles" was hanging over them because of the continued uncertainty as to whether any charges would be brought. The file on the football inquiry codenamed Operation Apprentice went to the CPS in July. The City force, which specialises in fraud detection, was under intense scrutiny in connection with the inquiry after the embarrassing collapse at the Old Bailey of the cheating case against the jockey Kieren Fallon. Redknapp was arrested at his Dorset home last November when he was manager of Portsmouth and he later won a High Court battle against the City force when it ruled officers had raided his home unlawfully.

We are such a bad investment as we aren't involved in money laundering and other dodgy deals like our neighbours. With Rupert interfering and keeping a watchful eye on everything the squeaky cleanliness can be smelt thoughout the dodgy takeover launderers worldwide. Here we go again on the "swept under the carpet story" that promoted this huge takeover bid designed to keep Gaymanric and his directors out of the muck http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23585202-details/Detectives+examine+new+claims+in+football+corruption+inquiry/article.do

What's the fookin' point of being able to start threads if you can't reply or join in the discussion. For 5 or more years I regularly posted commentary and TV streams and helped others out with software and repairs. Now I can't even post the links or pass on important information or warnings. Can't even PM the Admins to get them to post either. Reading what the chosen few have posted on this thread just reinforces my opinion that things have sunk so low and what's the point of registering for more. It's the same old opinions, same old arguments and one or two who think they're the Lawd's gift to the supporter base. I might add that some have the cheek of niggling Baj after all he's contributed to the boards and forums. Without Baj we'd still be struggling on Keith Legg's old forum and having to read his match reports and club history and articles. In Minty we trust. Pitbull the lot of them and let's be "Marchin'In" like in the old days. PS Surely a better option of being limited to 3 posts would be to limit the amount of words a non member could post. Four letters without censorship would more than enable me to answer most posts on the main board!!!

We have the experienced strike playing in the team in the form of Jason Euell. He's a striker, n'est pas although he seems to play a lot in mid field. I've been certain all along that we'd recall one or two of our loan players in January and send out one or two youngsters on loan to other clubs. Jan is following a plan of blooding as many youngsters as possible either to get us eventually promoted or to put them in the position to be sold at a big fat profit. Sadly I suspect the latter.

Keith and I believe Baz may recall if was my idea on awarding golden balls to those donating to start with and that scheme and making folk live members gave one a sense of pride and good about being a FULL MEMBER. Things have really changed and not for the good of the supporters community. How's about the Admins polling FULL MEMBERS over some suggestions on improving the forum? Things like: Would the Full Members approve increasing non members posts to 10 per day for a months trial to see if interest picks up. Or perhaps from 6am to 6pm or at weekends or just evenings non members being allowed more posts. Or increasing the number of posts but restricting private messaging to Full Members. Things like that or other ideas. I am certain you'd see an immediate improvement all round. Sadly I think that some Admins prefer it being dead and not having to deal with the hassle. When I recall what the likes of Keith, Minty and Pav ( and even Baz and Steve, put up with and still kept things decent I feel very sad at how things have turned out.

Sorry to disappoint you old friend, but I announced this at the time of uncertainty over Harry Rednapp's commitment. He's done incredibly well over in the States and there was talk at the time of him maybe returning to the UK. Jimmy's still a real hero at Everton and for me was a very special player at Saints. There was so little interest that I began thinking everyone'd forgotten what a great player he was for us.

I am greatly saddened by the demise of the main Saints supporters website. Having been duped twice already in the past into donating and membership for life I am not going to contribute to what is basically been a takeover of the site by the former Saints Trust team (and we know well how popular their efforts were!!) The solution is simple. The vast majority who posted regularly previously no longer do so. Why? Because the limit of 3 posts per 36 hours isn't streamlined for one to reply, get involved. Increase the number of posts allowed to 10 posts per 36 hours and you'll see a dramatic change. Plus a big improvement in quality of posts and more interesting topics. Definitely over the weekend 3 posts take away any interest in posting. I personally am sick of reading the same posters saying the same thing over and over again with the same dumb replies. It's also played right into the Boards hands but limiting the comments to the lunatic fringe and quashed any major reaction from the majority of supporters.

Back in the 60's I read the following story about a vision that occured to Jeanne Dixon, the woman who predicted JFKennedy's assassination. I've never forgotten about this vision and the date mentioned. At one time I even thought it might refer to Michael Jackson. Dixon's visions were very real but her own interpretations were off the mark. She predicted a terrorist attack on the States to which Nixon prepared. It may have referred to 9/11. Last night and seeing that Obama was born 4th Aug 1961 had me thinking that the baby she mentions may have referred to his rise to the Presidency. The event took place 6 months after Obama was born. For several months before this vision there had been a similar planetary line up as at the time of Christ's birth 2000 years ago. Makes fascinating reading and may be a warning of things to come Jeane Dixon( 1904-1997)'s Vision The vision which Jeane Dixon considers to be the most significant and soul-stirring of her life occurred shortly before sunrise on February 5, 1962. The date itself may have special significance, though Jeane was unaware of that fact at the time. For several months beforehand, astrologers and soothsayers had been predicting an earth-shaking event on that day ...some even forecast the end of the world...because a rare conjunction of the planets. A similar conjunction which occurred nearly two thousand years ago is believed b some biblical scholars to explain the "bright star in the east" which dazzles shepherds and guided three Wise Men to humble manger behind a crowded inn in Bethlehem. Three nights before Jean's vision she was meditating in her room when she became aware that the light was dimming. Glancing up, she saw the five bulbs in the crystal chandelier go dark, except for a curious round ball which glowed brilliantly in the center of each. Strangely frightened, she ran into her husband's bedroom and told him of the light failure. Since their other house lights were working properly, Mr. Dixon assumed that a fuse for one circuit had blown, but when he started down the hall to investigate he noticed that Jeane's chandelier was again burning brightly. The next evening during her meditations the phenomenon recurred. This time Jeane remained quietly in her room, staring at the tiny balls of light in the otherwise darkened bulbs. In approximately ten seconds, she say, she head "a tiny crackling sound." The wires in the clear bulbs then began to glow again, and normal light resumed. When the performance was repeated exactly as before on the third evening, Jeane accepted it as an omen that something important was soon to befall. She did not know when or where. The next morning she overslept, but the sun was not yet up as she walked toward the bay window of her bedroom which faces east. At she gazed outside she saw, nt the bare-limbed trees and city street below, but a bright blue sky above a barren desert. Just above the horizon was the brightest sun that she had ever seen, glowing like a golden ball. Splashing from the orb in every direction were brilliant rays which seemed to be drawing the earth toward it like a magnet. Stepping out of the brightness of the sun's rays, hand in hand, were a Pharaoh and Queen Nefertiti. Cradled n the Queen's other arm was a baby, his ragged, soled clothing in startling contrast to the gorgeously arrayed royal couple. "The eyes of this child were all-knowing," Jeane say softly. "They were full of wisdom and knowledge." A little to one side of Queen Nefertiti, Jeane could glimpse a pyramid. While she watched entranced, the couple advanced toward her and thrust forth the baby, as if offering it to the entire world. Within the ball of the sun, Jeane saw Joseph guiding the tableau like a puppeteer pulling strings. Now rays of light burst forth from the baby, blending with those of the sun and obliterating the Pharaoh from her sight. Off to the left, she observed that Queen Nefertiti was walking away, "thousands of miles into the past." The Queen paused beside a large brown water jug, and as she stooped and cupped her hands to drink she was stabbed in the back by a dagger. Jeane says that she "distinctly heard her death scream as she vanished." Jeane shifted her gaze back to the baby. He had by now grown to manhood, and a small cross which formed above him began to expand until it "dripped over the earth in all directions. Simultaneously, peoples of every race, religion, and color (black, yellow, red, brown and white), each kneeling and lifting his arms in worshipful adoration, surrounded him. They were all as one," Unlike previous visions, which had gradually faded away from Jeane, this one moved ever nearer until she seemed to be in the very midst of the action, joining int he adoring worship. "I felt a tiny seed ready to sprout and grow," she says, "But I was only one of millions of similar seeds. I knew within my heart. "here is the beginning of wisdom" The room was becoming dark again, and though she was still caught up in the spell of the vision, Jeane glanced automatically at her bedside clock. The time was 7:17 a.m. What does it mean? What is the significance of this strange visitation ona dull February morning in Washington, a third of the way around the world from Egypt/ Jeane feels that she ha been shown that answer. A bit haltingly, she explains it this way: "A child, born somewhere in the Middle east shortly after 7 a.m. (EST) on February 5, 1962, will revolutionize the world. BEfore the close of the century he will bring together all mankind in one all-embracing faith. This will be the foundation of a new Christianity, with every sect and creed united through this man who will walk among the people to spread the wisdom of the Almighty Power. "This person, though born of humble peasant origin, is a descendant of Queen Nefertiti and her Pharaoh husband; of this I am sure. There was nothing kingly about his coming...no kings or shepherds to do homage to this newborn baby...but he is the answer to the prayers of a troubled world. Mankind will begin to feel the great force of this man in the early 1980's and during the subsequent ten years the world as we know it will be reshaped and revamped into one without wars or suffering. His power will grow greatly until 1999, at which time the people of this earth will probably discover the full meaning of the vision." Attempting to describe her own sensation, Jeane says: "I felt suspended and enfolded, as if I were surrounded by whipped cream. For the first time I understood the full meaning of the biblical phrase, "My cup runneth over." I loved all mankind. I felt that I would never again need food or sleep, because I had experienced perfect peace." As a reporter, I felt there were questions that must be asked. How could she be sure that the queen in her vision was Nefertiti? Who was the Pharaoh who disappeared back into the sun? Why was Joseph in the vision? Jeane could answer only in part. She said that she recognized Nefertiti from a small bust of the famed Egyptian Queen, which a friend once brought to her from Cairo. She "knew" that the Pharaoh was married to Nefertiti but had no idea of his name or identity. Joseph seemed to be controlling the couple and inducing them to present the child to the world, but she did into know why. Baffled by the meaning of the strangely compelling vision, I consulted the Old Testament to job my memory about Joseph. I recalled, of course, that as the favorite son of Jacob he had been sold into Egyptian bondage by jealous older brothers. I knew that eventually he saved his family from starvation, when famine came, but beyond that...what? Turning to Genesis, I read that "hidden things were revealed to him" and he was able to "interpret dreams". Because of this, a grateful Pharaoh made him governor of all Egypt and presented him with a wife, Asenath, whose father Potipherah was an influential priest. So Joseph could understand meanings and interpret dreams1 I next turned to the Encyclopedia Britannica and learned that Nefertiti was the wife of Pharaoh Amenhotep IV who, after abandoning the worship of Amon, "devoted himself to that of the Aton (the solar disk)." He thereafter changed his name to Ikhnaton and built a new capital dedicated to worship of the sun on the banks of the Nile above Cairo. Archaeological evidence suggested that Nefertiti was also an "ardent supporter of the Aton (sun worship) religion." They had seven daughters but no sons. Suddenly I realized how strange it was that Jeane Dixon, who was totally unaware that Nefertiti and her husband had worshiped the sun, nevertheless "saw" them stepping forth from the solar disk in a vision.

I must say at the time Scotty was up against such striking giants as Rosler, Tessem, Davies, not to mention James Beattie and Marian Pahars. The fact that the club lost Wayne Bridge against Strachan's wishes at the time couldn't have left Gordon in too good and tolerant mood.

True true he is Australian and was a full Auzzie international and played brilliantly in the 2000 Asia Cup Tournament prior to making his debut at Brighton in the Cup and again at Middleborough in the Premiership, a game we won 3-1 away. He was in the team thanks to Mick Wadsworth, who, by doing so, upset a few of the Prima donnas. He became Mick's protegé and after Mick left he took Scotty up north. For most of the time during Strachan's time he was injured and fell out with Strachan after he recovered and felt he should be given a chance in the first team. Strachan isn't someone who bloods youngsters too easily but feels they have to come up through the ranks and serve an apprenticeship. Another player who Strachan got shot of from Saints and is still doing a good job at Bolton was Kevin Davies. To think they left for nothing when we could do with money these days.

Harry's appointment and reasonably fast success at Spuds is going to send a shock wave through football clubs craving success. Of course there are many clubs like Saints who are the beggars with no choice who'll stick with their managers, coaches etc.. thru thick and thin. Heads will role and the home from cast off football managers will fill. No wonder Rupert chose to invest in retirement homes.

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That is not true and some folk have short memories. Strachan made Delap's long throws a big part of our tactics. There was a famous incident when Strachan rushed to fetch the ball and passed it to Delap who stunned our opponents by speedily getting the ball into the box from where we scored. Do a search of the club archives for the Strachan period and you'll find several mentions of Delap's long throws and consequent goals. Saints played Delap too deep. He often complained that he didn't like playing right back. Strachan even used him once as left back during a game. Delap's a striker and the twin strike force of Delap and Fuller is causing defences lots of problems.

Don't know what he's doing, eh? Completely out of his depth, n'est pas? Well, JAN CAN COOK and knows exactly what he's doing, has the full backing of Lowe and Wilde, plus the Bank. He's been given this season to experiment, to build foundations and a team. The only thing he mustn't do is get us relegated. All the rest is icing on the cake, on the end product. We have the players, we have the heart, the capacity and we're going to get better and better. So let's be having you all. Get behind Jan and these young bravehearts and trust in Lowe and what he's up to. Rome wasn't built in a day, but in the case of this season we're laying solid foundations for years to come. Well done lads, well done Jan.

Well, with Harry now out of the way, we are going to see Rupert's long term plan of a merger of Saints and Pompey move a step nearer. The facts of the situation and that Saints have a decent stadium make this an excellent proposition businesswise. With Gus Poyet available after being given the boot at Spuds, we could do far worse than draft him in to give support to the Double Dutch Dream team!

He who laughs last laughs the longest, eh? Jose Mourinho started out in football as Bobby Robson's side kick and look how far he's come. Maybe the Saints future Messiah has been here all along, right in our midst and was treated like **** by all the ITK brigade. I can think of quite a few heads on here that Javi must be yearning to use a practice balls.