shurlock

get in

huge deflection

not good.

Or bribes for half a dozen officials in hangzhou.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/03/jurgen-klopp-thrash-metal-chord-english-ideal

He didn’t come back with “absolutely nothing”. Among other things he secured concessions on in-work and out-of-work benefits along with the indexation of child benefits - clearly they weren’t game-changers but they were exceptions that no other EU member state enjoys. The larger point is why is the UK is so special that it is exempt from rules that apply to everyone else, especially when it insists on enjoying the benefits and shaping other rules in its favour? To any reasonable person, that’s called special pleading and cherrypicking. Brexiteers should honest and admit they don’t like the EU rather than moralise and claim that the UK has been contemptuously treated. I have no principled issue with that. The other point is why hasn’t the UK taken advantage of the flexibilities in EU law to apply restrictions to freedom of movement? That the UK hasn’t and others have has nowt to do with the EU and everything to do with home-grown choices and decisions.

Although the champions league embodies the very worst features of modern football and fandom, it’s been far more exciting to watch this season than the PL.

How’s that relevant, fat boy?

That's what I understand. Still, that didn't stop Les having a memorable night in the Stadio Olimpico.

I understand VVD, Mané, Lovren and Clyne gave him a guard of honour.

A few jitters Les?

Les must be over the moon.

I don't doubt that some saw 'leave' as a protest vote, especially as they thought it would have few, if any consequences. However, in the aggregate, all the data suggests that immigration was the main factor (uncomfortable as that may be to you). I'd also say that the idea of risk-free no vote demonstrates a poor understanding of history. The historical record from over well 250 national referenda since 1990 reveals that the change option -leave in the case of Brexit- has won nearly 70% of the time. To the extent that polling put leave neck-and-neck with remain, if not ahead of it during the campaign and referenda favour change, there was every chance that leave would win. A free vote, it certainly wasn't.

The way that the Cameron was treated? The UK has enjoyed opt-outs and rebates for years - it has the cushiest deal of all member states in terms of rights and responsibilities. It speaks to the sheer delusion and arrogance of the British that not only were concessions were insufficient but Cameron and the UK were somehow the victims.

And NatCen's opinion is "For leave voters, the vote was particularly about immigration and the social consequences of it.We find a bit of correlation with people who don’t trust Government, but that’s not nearly as strong. Two biggest guides to why people voted leave were those most concerned with immigration and those with a lower level of education...Many politicians have come out and said it was all about sovereignty and other things, but our findings indicate this isn't the case".

For a moment there pal some might think you were falling for Uncle Les spin...

You're in your greasy, pîss-stained element, aren't you.

No direct flights between Riyadh and Tokyo as far as I know pal. Its a much longer journey.

It was primarily about immigration - the National Centre for Social Research, the most authoritative organisation to track public attitudes in the country, concluded as much. Just because it was primarily immigration doesn't make those people xenophobic or racist, at least in my book.

Agree - well said. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-latest-news-leave-eu-immigration-main-reason-european-union-survey-a7811651.html Worth remembering that until the EU was weaponised by immigration which was farage's genius, it was a nonissue for most people. Freaks and headbangers like Cash, Rees-Mogg and Hannan may have been banging on about EU regulation and parliamentary sovereignty for years but these issues simply didn't resonate. Indeed, they didn't resonate with most Conservative voters, traditionally the most eurosceptic constituency. In the 2010 british election survey, a microscopic 0.7 per cent of Conservative voters identified Europe or the Euro as the most important issue. The EU did not even make the top ten issues among respondents questioned in February 2013, despite Cameron’s famous Bloomberg speech. Needless to say, immigration featured significantly higher

You've got to do better than that balders if you fancy yourself against o'brien. Btw I've got a real-life pal who owes me a favour and could probably get you on the show. Interested?

Brexit was largely about immigration - that's what all the evidence and data suggest anyway.

Very attractive odds.

Good lad.

Hard to see us getting 2 wins - 4 points looks like a decent return.