Smirking_Saint

Yup, you fully deserve to take the moral highground after your clearly not arrogant posts of 'you were clearly not at the game' and 'if you think otherwise your an idiot'

So I know nothing about the game as he performed the minimum expectation from a lone striker that Id expect from even a sunday league player ? Gotcha

Is anyone debating the fact that lambert was the only poor player ? Shaw and Clyne offered him little in an attacking sense, J Rod was poor and even Morgan wasnt brilliant. In fact to me it seemed the whole team was shuddering and apart from the quick out of the blocks first 10 minutes or so nobody really shone yesterday. The CBs played well, Lallana had a decent enough game. Christ the fact that people are voting Boruc MOTM for his single save and clawing away of a cross speaks volumes. Im not overly criticising Rickie, he is a big player for us, but he was poor. Saying stuff like 'if you dont get how he was so good yesterday then your an idiot' is a bit thick really, but Ive explained why he was poor IMO so perhaps you want to point out what he did yesterday that was so effective ?

Im also part of the footie thickie group, shame as I always thought you and Kraken knew a thing or two, unfortunately you've been brought down to my level.

Utter crap Corks much more sound then Davis whos industry helped out immensely but his defensive positioning isnt as good as Corks, yes it didnt help that WBA came at us more after the goal and also Lambert didnt seem available as an out ball even less as the game wore on but ultimately there was a large DM shaped hole in the midfield when cork left.

Same old trolls dangling the bait I see, well done in the main for ignoring it... I think we have missed him majorly, much more defensively minded then cork (who played v well yesterday) and was improving before the injury, needlessly wastes possession at times but allows morgan and the others push on. Getting him and Boruc fit is massive.

Exactly. He looked up atleast twice for that pass and made it, maybe he got a bit lucky but personally I think he meant it. Him and Lallana are our real creative elements along with J Rod with his direct running (not as creative from a passing sense just a destructive sense) I also think he is starting to work harder, as I said before happy to give him 6 months and right now happy to have him in the side. Obviously some just have agendas.

This Although when he headed that ball accross our own box I had to question whether he has ever been taught how to defend

It was adam and he passed him the armband when he went off.

Well I was, I could question whether you were unless its just blind loyalty ? He won some good headers but in the main didnt direct them anywhere, too many slack passes. Was very slow getting back into an attacking position after coming deep. Was not available as an out ball towards he end of the game when we were under pressure. His shooting was off. Yes he controls a ball very well but too often yesterday he controled well, found space but then wasted possession. So no I dont rate it as one of his better games.

If you read their forums he isnt alone TBH and always been surprised by the dullards bemoaning him being lent out, he really isnt that good.

As always a kneejerk reaction to a player on here, clearly I was wrong and Welbeck wouldnt start scoring after getting an extended run as a striker...........

Agreed except for the bit about Rickie, he was terrible.

My bad lol Still, I think Clyne is quality and defended exceptionally today but wasnt his usual attacking self. Very excited about our right flank though as honestly dont think Chambers is far at all from Clynes ability and is only 18.

Completely the way I saw it. Ive also seen Guly replace Lambert late on aswell instead of J Rod as I think J Rod adds more due to his athleticism

Clynesa very good player and defended incredibly well but I did say towards the last 20 mins to sub him for Chambers as today he was poor going forward. Usually Id agree and yes his name is on the plane for me to Brazil but today wasnt his finest.

He aint that quick and certainly isnt anywhere near as good.

Agreed. Its taken to long, he is clearly talented but doesnt fit the system as such, played well today but still IMO doesnt have the workrate to fit in Poch's tactics but has some serious ability. IMO he has the rest of the season to prove it.

You have seen how bad the other two have havent you ? Seriously ? Have you seen them ? As for what you said regarding Stoke, complacent ? Maybe, fresk ? Definately. He, for me is up there easily in or around Niemi as the best keeper Ive seen live for us. Ok, he does a few crazy things but hey, he leads, his reactions are sound and apart from his kicking he is very good. Id suggest you are very very wrong here nicky

This Though I personally think vic missing impacts a lot, Cork is good, V good but Vic adds more to our system. Davis and Gazza are terrible reservists. Boruc leads from his position aswell as being very able in the art of goalkeeping.

Was over in hospitality (I know, free bar though, you wouldnt turn it down either) seemed strong but as far as I saw was his first foul so a tad harsh, cane too soon after their moan about Morgs' foul I reckon.

Whilst I agree, and whilst I believe your a man that knowshis stuff. I think its worth giving him atleast the next 6 months and if we get a big offer then potentially look at selling on. He hassome serious ability, but has the stereotypical foreign playmaker mentality, he works quite hard, but not hard enough. FWIW I think he played ok today, he offered something different from yhe usual take no chances and keep the ball stuff we usually play. At the moment Im v happy that he is an option, he certainly offered more in 30 mins that Lambert did in 90

Were you at the game ? Looked clearly like it ended were he intended it ?

This I said at the time long shouldnt have given him a chance, but he did and Boruc did well, something the other two would have cocked up

Well then the commentator was talking crap