Smirking_Saint

I realise many people have a direct contact with him, but TBH i never realised he was quite so easy to contact as he appears to be. For that reason i asked on the front desk whether or not students still get a discount, they didn't know, i can only assume that was because of changeover at that time and everyone was unsure, for that reason i emailed the next guy up. He is still not senior management IMO BTW, isn't it easier to actually debate ? Unless you just want to meet in the plume for a punch up ?

Not really, the vast majority of the fanbase do not know about hardly any of these issues TBF, if you stood in a street and asked whether or not the club was being run correctly i am confident that 90%+ would say yes. However, i do concede that he seems pretty ruthless and has the potential to p*ss a lot of people off, but ATM his decisions have been business decisions that have not really affected the masses. His PR skills are pretty sh*te however

Well nice work, it was a decent pub, re the drink you already owe me 1 for the ST wrongness and another for being a bit of a bellend recently, so i'll scratch one off for you. As for NI, i don't know, i am not jumping to any conclusions, i just can't see why NC would openly alienate the fan base like VFTT has stated above, but he has done enough to p*ss off 9 out of 10 companies so it may be about him. As for him not getting info from the club, he really should have done, but then it depends if he has lodged a complaint via the correct procedure, that previous thread of mine you posted or not anyone would look like a tw*t if the manager you gets through to says, 'Did the ticket office not help you out ?'

I doubt we will get a source on this one

Seeing as i don't know i can't comment, at the moment though i don't know all the info so i am not forming an opinion because one man says i should. Perhaps, and like i said right at the beginning, the club should really let him know, if they havn't already, which i can only take NI's word for it that they have not.

Perhaps rash, however it is true that the echo needs saints more than saints need the echo. Was NC looking for an excuse to get rid of the echo's coverage to promote the OS, probably. The echo however ignored his request, and have since acted just as poorly by reporting as much anti NC guff as it can gather, so really and truelly it only has itself to blame. The days of paper news are sadly numbered IMO anyways.

Sadly i think it might be, which is a shame as he puts a lot of effort into the info gathering, then can't actually debate it properly.

TBF you don't know the full story ? I agree if NC is just being a tw*t i will look at him differently, but i am not forming an opinion until i know all the info.

God you really are a bit of a tw*t, and a hypocritical one at that. Why the hell should i defend and show blind loyalty to anyone ?? I wouldn't show a blind loyalty to my own family ? My loyalty depends on situation. I have said before that i think it is unfortunate that the payment scheme has deprived a few fans, it really is, FFS i am one of the ones that wasn't able to get a ST because of the removal of the payment plan, however, i looked at my situation and decided i would go on a game to game basis, could i have found a way to afford it ? Yes, however i decided to wait until next year and save up to buy it whether than put it on the credit card, i'll probably work a few sats this year anyways. As far as i can see at the moment NC has been a bit of a pr*ck, but not deserving of as much vitriol as you seem to bring on a daily basis, i certainly havn't got an agenda pro club to blindly follow it into the abyss, i do however have the ability to look at situations objectively, get what information i can and more importantly try to ensure that info is correct, something you seem to lack the ability to do Stu. You seem to find what info you can to fortify your arguements and agenda and than blindly follow it, you are a conspiracist, some people will believe your drivel, others won't. SteveGrant and Hypo also seem to be in the Cortese dislike camp, however i can swallow what they speak and respect it a lot more easily due to them being able to pose across informed opinion and actually DEBATE things, not just launch into a character attack just because they cannot actually back up their own arguement or because someone does not agree with them. Hidden usernames, lol, thats pretty comical, Sturomsey.....oh no.... Dave Benson Phillips lol, what difference does that make anyway, i have the same opinions in the real world as i do on here, nothing like your macho man online persona lol. And now for this NI event, i don't agree with what the bloke says, and as i said, he not only puts his head over the parapit but actually attacks the club head on and also screwed a few fans over in the Silverspoons deal, now i didn't go there, i went to the green man, and i don't think it was all his fault TBF, but all in all he was a figurehead so needs to take responsibility. The problem is there is more than one side to a story, so currently i can't just openly blame NC for this, it could be an admin error (i like the way you have covered that outcome to suit your arguement BTW, very inspired). If it turns out that it is NC being a bit of a tw*t than my opinion will change, and i will admit it. Unfortunately i don't see you doing the same if you are proven incorrect. So please Stu, get your facts right, and actually TRY to have a reasoned debate in the way you shout everyone else down if they just attack you. I really don't expect to get a reasonable response from you for this post, try and surprise me, and if you really just want to get personal than can we just put each other on ignore ? I really can't be arsed.

I agree with this

Well, he is turning out to be pretty prolific. Unfortunately not for the team he is playing for.

Yeah, thats pretty much as i remember. I do like Hammond, he has tremendous work rate, but technically he ain't all that. But i suppose thats what you get at this level, i'm just not used to it.

Dave Eileen ?

Unless we play 4-5-1 ?? Plus Pardew said in an interview a little while ago that Hammond was not garaunteed a starting place unless he proved to be more technically gifted, i think. May be wrong.

Yeah, but when he argued back you would have probably been stumped though eh ?? Lol

He is on trial from a Champ club, he is never going to cost 1.2m, i hope. He used to be a decent player, i would ignore the Preston message board TBF and judge him on how he performs tonight, it seems (according to Wiki i know) that Milwall saw enough to try and get him in, and it seems he is on decent wages, perhaps the reason to 'offer him' to clubs ? If he is deemed good enough i am sure he will sign, at least on loan to check his pedigree.

It could be hypocrisy, or it could be just ignoring the point, something that you have constantly slagged others for, so what would that be then ?? Oh yes, that would be hypocritical wouldn't it ?? Typical though Stu, you can't actually carry out a proper arguement and look at things objectively so you fall back into character assault, pretty cheap and unitelligent tactic that. Unfortunately i have to admit i am wrong again, SRS isn't actually the misinterpretted poster i thought he was, he just likes the look at me angle.

Can't argue with that, i wonder if he is better than Wotton though ? I am sure i can think of a question to determine that, oh yes. Can he actually move without assistance ?

I think it is a re-hash of something that was on the 1976 site, i think

Wasn't he a good player once ?? He lost his way a bit but hell if he does a job i'll be happy, i can't see a player being cast out on trial costing more than a mil though, IMO.

Not really, my main body of text still counts, i don't know what you do but if you were in a management position i would imagine it would somewhat get your goat that someone from the outside with little to no experience in what you are trying to achieve is questioning how you went about what you were doing and calling you a liar . As for the apparant hypocritical points, they still stand, i would always phone the front desk first and not jump straight into senior management, also, Luker is not what i would call a senior manager, more of a line manager or team manager IMO.

hmm, and like i said in the above 'slagging off post' i would ask the person on the front desk first and if they couldn't answer my question 'then' i would persue it, So whats your point breaker here ??

Lol This is pretty embarassing really, i mean you have dug down to find a thread i started ages ago without knowing any of the reasons behind it ? And from someone that has continually changed his predictions and contridicted himself over and over again in order to seem like he has not lost arguements etc ? And actually more so than that, changed his online name in order to give his arguements more credance. The fact is in that respect i phoned the ticket office and asked about Student tickets as they were not mentioned on the site, the bloke i talked to at the time said he was unaware of whether or not the young adults now constituted as Student tickets as well or whether they had been dispensed with, he told me to ask his manager and i got cut off, so i sent an email. One that apparantly was not replied to lol. And yes i called them c*nts, was being a little sarcastic mind, i see you managed to ignore the smiley (though i can be caught out by that ) But well done, you really have outed me, damn...............btw, i hardly just argue for the sake of it, if you can prove me wrong by all means do and i will concede the point, a bit unlike comedy Stu who even when proven wrong on countless occasions cannot manage to say 'sorry, i might have got that wrong'

In what respect ?

Agree completely The arrogance is astounding