Lighthouse

It just takes one Putin bodyguard to be a hero and end this madness...

Half of Americans couldn't even point to USA on a World map. Their ignorance is hardly evidence of anything.

My, grandma, what big eyes you have. 🙄

I think that’s been debunked as fake news, sadly. The footage was from a video game.

Officially, that’s what they’re sending. The public will probably never hear about some of the properly good stuff.

Weirder stuff has happened, especially with dictators. People like Putin surround themselves with yes men, scared to speak up if they think something is wrong. Stalin invaded Finland after having a lot of his elite officers executed and replaced with more desirably party affiliates, they got an arse whooping. A couple of Panzer divisions sat scratching their arses for several crucial hours on D-Day, because Hitler liked a lie in and none of his staff were brave enough to wake him up. True but our little jolly down there was much more recent and probably fresher in the minds of our military commanders. I doubt many still serving in Russia’s military saw action in Afghanistan.

If there’s one thing we’ll have learned the hard way from Iraq and Afghanistan, is how to run an effective insurgency and the kinds of attack an occupying force will dread facing.

If everyone stands firm and does that, they'll basically win the World Cup by default, without kicking a ball. FIFA wont stand for that kind of embarrassment, they'll probably kick them out to protect their own image.

3 (or more) goals conceded in five consecutive games for only the second time in PL history according to OPTA (Sunderland were the other in 2005).

I wasn't hopeful of Leeds doing much today but 2-0 down in 15 minutes against Spurs.

Ukraine are probably a good bet for Eurovision this year.

Back to back, 2-0 home wins, who can argue with that. Decent performance all round and we can enjoy the rest of the weekend knowing we’ve already done our job and gone home. Thought KWP, Salisu and Rom were excellent once again. Broja not a Chelsea player on that showing but hardly a poor performance.

That's as daft as Delldays' cake and pronouns argument.

Surreal media statement of the day.

Okay, everyone post your postal address on this thread. If t'internet goes tits up I'll send you all a print out of Tub Girl.

That’s not the same as saying cutting one cable will cripple our economy though and I never said there was, ‘nothing’ to worry about.

The idea of cutting just one cable, which can only be accessed by submarine, to crash our economy is a cool plot for a Bond film but I think there are a few more safeguards than that.

I understand that but with regards to the last sentence; why? What makes you think any NATO leaders, or their populations, wouldn't be willing to repel Russian military advances?

I disagree that the European public is that pacifist in all of this. There seems to be universal condemnation and horror at what is happening in Ukraine. I think a lot of people would want to stop them the moment they stepped into NATO territory. Also, it's not the public that matters but the politicians. How weak is Biden going to want to look in front of China and his republican critics?

Okay, just to be clear here. If NATO defends Lithuania with military force, what do you then think Russia's course of action will be?

I've no idea where you're getting these ideas from but just occupying Ukraine is going to be a massive economic and military strain for Russia. You speak as if they have the resources to take over the whole of Europe and that we're all too gutless to do anything about it. A Russian attack on the UK mainland would be absolute madness, even Putin knows that. He's not going to send his aging Air Force to take on a couple of hundred Typhoons and F35s, plus half the US Air Force.

With absolute fury, what kind of question is that?

So where do you think the West will let Putin stop? If you think he can just invade NATO countries and we will respond with relative indifference, how far CAN he go before we actually use our massively superior military? What exactly do you think is coming to our shores? Putin is not going to send bombers to attack the British mainland, that would be insanity.

Egg, hypo, I really think you’re misjudging the mood of not just Britain but the rest of the free world. Invading Ukraine - a Putin puppet state under Yanukovich less than a decade ago - is completely different to invading a NATO state. You speak as if Russia could just stroll across Europe at will, without consequence or opposition. They can’t.

So when Russia starts invading NATO countries, you think the British public will be disgusted if we act in defence of our own alliance? You think everyone in Britain wants to sit here, trembling in our boots, until we have Russian bombers circling over Buckingham Palace, then take action?