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Gaza is not all of the land that Israel occupies, most of it is the West Bank. Palestinian Territory is the combination of the 2. Also, Israel has almost total control over over water, fuel, and electricity supplies to Gaza, and of all but 1 of the routes in. ( Then again, you know this perfectly well ).

How many UN resolutions and international agreements is Israel in breach of ?. There are more current UN resolutions against Israel then all other countries combined. I am in no way justifying Hamas, but you seem completely oblivious to all the privations and apartheid actions that are imposed on the displaced Palestinian people. Israel can stop most of the problems by withdrawing from the occupied territories, granting the Palestinians the rights and freedoms they are entitled to, and working on a way forward through dialogue that denies Hamas and other extremists their production line of new recruits.

Mossad and Shin Bet have a history of extra- territorial action.

I know.

Apparently this comment is humourous.

They are capable of far more "surgical" action than effectively bulldozing half of the Gaza Strip. Also, as previously mentioned, perhaps try for the leadership of Hamas, comfortably tucked away in the UAE. Maybe they shouldn't be so oppressive in the territories they illegally occupy, thereby reducing the tension and temptation to retaliate. Do you think what they are currently doing is going to make the problem go away ? At some point somebody has to put on their Big Boy Pants and try to find a way to implement an effective 2 state solution that breaks the cycle, because all they are currently doing is breeding the next generation of terrorists.

Or refugees over a military occupation ?

In which case they should contact the Police.

Pro Hamas demonstrations are banned. Pro Palestinian ones are permitted. How many of the babies Israel have killed had vowed to erase Israel from the Earth ?

Sitting in my workshop, painting a pair of owl bookends carved from the ends of 4*4 fence posts, listening to the dulcit tones of Rage Against The Machine.

You do realise that sometimrs I will agree with something you post.

England v Fiji was pretty meh.

Joe Biden's Twitter account posted this about speaking with the Palestinian Authority's President; "I assured him that we're working with partners in the region to ensure humanitarian supplies reach civilians in Gaza and to prevent the conflict from widening,"

3 expectant fathers are waiting in the delivery suite; one English, one Welsh, and one Pakistani. A doctor comes into the waiting room and announces that there has been a mixup with the babies and asks that the fathers go into the nursery to see if they can pick out any identifying features indicating which is their child. The englishman says he will go first, and after a couple of minutes comes back holding a baby with obviously darker skin. "Hold on", says the Pakistani father, "that baby has much more in common with me than with you". " I know", replies the Englishman, "but one of those 2 in there is Welsh, and I am not taking any chances".

Thousands of dead Palestinian civilians, a large number of whom were women and children, ( hugely disproportionate to the number of dead Israelis),; illegal occupation of land in direct contradiction of international agreements; withholding basic humanitarian services and human rights. There are plenty of valid reasons to criticise Israel - you don't need to be anti-Semitic.

The problem with that analogy is that Ukraine are the side being attacked by a bigger and stronger neighbour, and threatened with obliteration whilst their territory is occupied and flattened - more akin to the Palestinians. As you say war is a dirty business, and collateral damage is inevitable, but Ukraine are not trying to commit the genocidal destruction of Russia, nor actively seeking to cause civilian casualties.

In which case RM is the perfect manager.

The Israeli air force has bombed Khan Yunis, the supposedly 'safe' southern end of the evacuation route through the Gaza Strip.

Corbyn is, was, and always will be an unelectable prat. I suspect his self perception as a Humanist meant he had to stand up for the great swathes of oppressed people around the globe - without ever considering there might be a bigger picture that politicians need to take account of.

Look beyond the borders of Palestine and Israel and find the puppeteers pulling the strings and serving their own agendas ; Russia, and Iran. Putin wants to distract the West from Ukraine, the Ayatollahs have sworn to eradicate Israel, and Hamas are far too happy to be their proxy.

Are we back on the equivalence of anti-Netanyahu's policies and anti-semitism ?

Because I have nothing else that will fill the dark, cold, lonely days of my pitiful existence, What is your excuse ?

We don't need balance or facts when discussing Israel. Please stay on message. 😉

Why waste so much time and effort arguing on this thread ? Bazunu is our starting keeper for the season and no amount of words on here will change that.

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