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Gutted about that. Thought we played well but when you go down to 10 men at the Emirates and three of your best players get injured, you know you're in trouble. Great game to watch though but just so disappointed that we couldn't hang on. I was starting to wonder about Forster but he proved his worth tonight.

Porn star it is then!

Well that's cheered me up a treat. Brilliant

Oops, just realised that has gone. Not sure there is anything left, if there is, I'll have the earliest time available please.

32.01-33.00 for me please.

I've gone a bit Asia Pacific with a small amount of mine but that's higher risk than the UK equities that you're in (hence the reason that I've only put a small amount in there). Doing Ok at the moment but with a riskier fund there's chance of a steep downturn at some stage. As long as you're able to ride out the troughs and not need to take it out when the markets are low you can manage the risk to some extent. Apart from that, the funds you've mentioned are as good as any in those sectors I guess.

Done

To some people it's perceived to be an issue and a problem to others not so much when weighing up the pros and cons rather than just concentrating on the cons.

Well if the assumption is that they're all contributing where is the problem? The implication is that 'immigration' is a strain on our resources and there have been many discussions on here about the net cost to the UK so if you look back over the thread, there will be plenty.

Blimey... Talk about scare stories. The constant drivel we hear about how the whole world is coming to settle on our little island and how they're all sponging off the state ... What's that if not a scare story?

Maybe because they're on 9 times out of 10 when they only have one MP. I was pleased to see the Green Party represented last week. First time in ages they've been on and have an MP for considerably longer than UKIP. But don't fret, Nigel and ukip are getting mentioned every few minutes anyway.

Heard Chris Hughton on Talksport this morning coming out with the same old blah. I guess they think it gives the impression that they know what they're talking about when in reality there's only one or two journos out there that actually know what they're talking about when it comes to Saints. The rest just focus on the 'big' teams and the London clubs.

Fonte, Schneiderlein and Mane in 'Team of the Week' on MoTD

This. Not sure why I was so nervous at the end as they were hopeless up front. Just worried that they might get a spawny deflection or something.

Just spotted your post although I hope my answers in my previous post satisfy your interest in my thoughts on this matter. But to answer your specific posts: Just Google 'English Jobs in Europe'. There are shed loads. I know a number of people that have done very well out of working in the EU for a period of time. I also have a friend (surprising I know) who is encouraging his two children to go to university in the EU as they're as good as, if not better than ours and they're a damn sight cheaper. Just a couple of personal examples as you asked. I think I've answered this question already but to reiterate, I seem to recall listing all the political and economic benefits of being in the EU previously (although I suspect you disagreed with them all) and whilst I'm not saying everything is hunky dorey, I believe the benefits of being in far outweigh the implications of leaving. I'm not sure of what you mean by that. If you mean the consequences of that process then I've answered that above, if you mean the way in which Euro MP's are elected, then I have issues with all the democratic processes that we're bound by. No doubt a number of people on here will argue that the UK process is unfair and would prefer proportional representation. I'm not really too hung up on the process it's more the consequences that I'm interested in and my thoughts on that are above. Well I'm sorry, I don't mean to be rude but that is nonsense. Are we now planning on throwing out the EU residents that are already here now then? Basic economics in our global economy says that if one country's wages go up, their costs go up, exports go down, imports go up (the imports being manufacturered by the EU labour that we're no longer employing and enjoying the taxes from). As above - it's basic economics. Why doesn't that surprise me? Thought about the consequences and who's going to pay for them? I don't suppose Nigel has.

Apologies for the delay in my reply but I've been watching the Apprentice Don't know about plumbers but this chap seems to be doing OK: https://www.blogger.com/profile/07287142568155953402 The FT also seem to think that there's not much difference in the numbers: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5cd640f6-9025-11e3-a776-00144feab7de.html#axzz3GufJb0Sp and it seems that the French aren't too happy about the British flooding their country too: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1354810/Attack-ex-pats-robbing-French-jobs-The-Polish-plumber-English-ski-instructor.html It's very easy to pick a low paid country and a low paid job as an example of how unjust our lot is but personally, I don't subscribe to that view. Umm ... that wasn't the question nor was it my answer! Who has said their rules can't be questioned? I'm very happy for us to question their rules but there are some I agree with and some I don't in the same way that there are plenty of UK rules that I don't agree with but others that I do. It doesn't mean that just because we don't like everything about it that we should bite out nose off to spite our face and leave completely. I also said that it was their own incompetence in managing their economies. I'm not quite sure what point you're making here though with regard to how voting UKIP would make any difference as we're not in the Euro anyway. In no possible way will the red tape do down. The idea of an open market is that we can trade as freely with EU countries as we can in the UK. Do you really think that if we throw that agreement away the red tape will go down? There will be a shed load of paperwork and red tape to go through. With regard to EU countries wanting to do business with us, I'm sure they will but the point I'm making is about exports to the EU rather than imports from them. Just think about this for a minute. A company in the UK has 1,000,000 widgets to sell, as does a company in France. A company in Germany just happens to need 1,000,000 widgets asap. The French chap says, no problem, I'll just chuck them in the lorry and drive them across the border. The UK chap says, well I can get them to you but I've got to fill all these forms in and get them filed with the relevant agency so that I can trade with EU countries, that'll take a fortnight, then they have to go through customs so that could take some time. By the way, because of all this additional work, I need to charge a bit more for them. Where do you think the German will get his widgets? Yes, the Indians and Chinese are quite clever but that's not why so much of our manufacturing has gone over there. It is simply because they can manufacture what we want that much cheaper. If we reduce our available workforce by closing our borders apart form to those skilled jobs that we need (who decides that by the way?) then our cost of manufacture will increase and we will lose more jobs to those countries. In the global economy in which we live, that's just the realistic economics of it I'm afraid. I'm all for paying a living wage to people but we're not going to remain competitive in any shape or form by closing our borders as UKIP wish. Well I happen to think that the policy of reducing the promotion of cigarettes, banning smoking in enclosed places and educating the populace as to the consequences of smoking is one of the more sensible things that the UK government has done over the past decade yet before the 'no smoking in pubs' rule became law I was against it. I'll need to think about that one but in my opinion the way you change that is to be involved in it rather than outside it.

1. It's not an open door immigration policy. It's an open door immigration and emigration policy. There are many thousands of people living and working in in the EU thanks to the open borders policy. Personally, I don't have an issue with it, indeed I'm pleased that I have this freedom. 2. Well clearly it is. The majority of our trade is with EU countries (someone that can be bothered will no doubt come up with the numbers). Without which we would be a poorer country and if you flick back many pages you will see the laws that have been passed be the EU that I personally welcome. 3. It's not the Democratic process that screwed the Greeks and the Italians, it was there membership of the euro and their general mismanagement of their own economy. My turn: 1. How many jobs do you think will be lost in the UK economy by our withdrawal from the EU, our major raiding partner? The argument that we can still trade with them won't wash as although that is true to an extent, it is a fair assumption that the costs to do so would escalate and make us less competitive in that market when compared with countries that are trading amongst each other. 2. With a much reduced labour force available to UK companies, how much do you see the inflation rate going up by with increase wages and costs of exporting? Which on its own would damage our ability to export inside and outside of the EU. 3. Apart from the promises by ukip around immigration and foreigners in general which of the other ukip policies do you embrace? Maybe it's the ability of tobacco companies to advertise more readily or allowing smoking in pubs. I wonder whether the impact on the NHS of the increase in cancer patients and other associated illnesses has been taken into account in the maths?

Well that answers my first question and to be honest, makes me more nervous about the prospect of ukip getting in than I was before.

It's all very well looking at one aspect of being in the EU (immigration) and saying if we didn't have that we'd be (arguably) better off and therefore we should leave the EU whilst completely ignoring the benefits of being in. No doubt people on here will say there are no benefits to being in the EU but those views are somewhat misguided IMHO. I'm still struggling with the concept of voting for a party based on a single policy. Anyone know UKIP's position on the NHS, the economy, education, policing etc and if they do, does anyone happen to agree with them? Personally I'd rather people voted Tory, they'd at least get a referendum on the EU. Better the devil you know and all that. No doubt Farage will be keen to get the tv debates out of the way before they publish their manifesto so he can just bang on about immigration without having to face any questions about tricky subjects like how they'd actually run the country.

So the rest of the world are excluded are they? I'd best mention that to all the Chinese students on my train this morning. I can just imagine all the ukip supporters voting for them because they feel sorry for the rest of the world that they don't have the same rights as those in Europe.

Maybe because there's a lot to smear but without policies on anything but keeping the foreigners out there's not much to debate?

I must admit, I never even considered it being a penalty at the time from my position in the Chapel. I thought Forster stopped before Fletcher hit him and it was Fletcher who ran into the stationary Forster (although he couldn't do anything else). However, looking at it on TV, you couldn't really complain if a penalty had been given but I'd agree it wasn't a sending off. I thought Forster could have dived on the ball and reached it with his hands from his starting position to be honest. Anyway, that aside we were superb, they were **** but they were brilliant from a comedic viewpoint.

What a ****ing time to do the sober for October thing. I could have drunk the city dry tonight after that. Brilliant game and performance. I told anyone that would listen before this game that it would be really dull with Sunderland playing with 11 men behind the ball and Saints trying to break them down. Thought we might have sneaked a 1-0. This is certainly a game that will live in the memory forever. I told my daughter that she'll tell her grandchildren that she was at the game one day... and she's only 13.?

Are you Walt Disney?

I think he'd have gone if he'd heard YMCA to be honest!