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Maybe we decided that we could find an alternative that wouldn’t cost us about £5mil all in to be a back, only to then return to another club at the end of the season?

They wanted to keep Cahill by the sounds of it but for his big wage demands

They bid a similar amount for Emile Smith-Rowe and Arsenal basically told them to fuck off, and they did. Hopefully same happens here.

Pretty unbelievable that he spent one year on loan from Swansea and it was at Leicester where he won the Premier League! What a story.

To me, that injury against Villa really knocked him. He was absolutely flying, had just stuck one in the top corner and stood there like he was the king of the world, and then he gets another knee injury. You could see for the rest of the season, the frustration he had that he was no longer at that peak anymore. It knocked him for six. I didn’t see any lack of effort, just frustration, with himself and with the team. It’s so easy to say a player who isn’t playing well has had his head turned, but I didn’t see anything to suggest that at all.

Surely this is dead in the water now. A shame for the lad as he clearly wants to leave, but United seem pretty rubbish when it comes to getting rid/letting go of out of favour players.

Phil Jones should’ve made that move to a Saints/West Ham/Burnley about 3 years ago, the ship has sailed for him now unfortunately I think. He’s very reckless and unrefined, which is a cause of a lot of his injuries, as mentioned above he’s not Jonny Evans.

If he was as good as people say, surely a Championship club at least would’ve taken a punt on him. I was surprised how slow and laboured he looked on the occasions I watched him. Good luck to him, a few players have had to drop to the Scottish leagues to then go on to carve out a very good career. James Maddison spent some time up there and now look at him.

People say this all the time, but Ings is our first 20 a season man since returning to the Prem, yet we’ve finished 6th, 7th and 8th with our strikers barely hitting double figures. Loads of Brighton’s signings have flopped, they’ve spent way more than us, and yet they drop more points from winning positions than anybody. Clearly scoring goals is not their only issue.

Chelsea do this all the time - there’s big money in selling players to the Championship these days, it’s a good business model if you get it right. N’Lundulu is probably on a pittance compared to our other players, but if he does really well at Lincoln and a Championship team want him, he’s probably worth 4/5mil.

I’m not saying players from small clubs don’t get picked, i’m saying a lot of players have been picked in the past just because they play for a big club. Rice and Phillips are both brilliant players, and would’ve been my choice to be the CM pairing for England - but did any English CM’s that were competing with them and play for bigger clubs get left out? I can’t think of any. Henderson would’ve started ahead of either of them if he’d been fit, but actually Rice is a much better footballer imo, so thankfully he wasn’t fit.

I’m not sure you could ever really argue that some players haven’t had England caps based on the teams they play for. There was a time pretty much any player who’d played a minute for Spurs under Poch was getting an England call up. Harry Winks and Ryan Mason have 11 caps between them. Eric Dier had to have a completely disastrous season for Spurs this year to finally drop out of the England squad - he has 45 caps!! History shows plenty of players get into the England squad a lot easier if they play for one of the bigger clubs. And no, playing for a bigger club doesn’t necessarily make you a better player. Plenty of players come through academies at bigger clubs and get game time, but aren’t at the required level - Ryan Mason as I mentioned being one of them. Mason Greenwood was rumoured to be in Southgate’s this summer until injury - who’s done more at Premier League level; Ings, Bamford, Watkins or Greenwood?

But did they leave anyone out from Man United or Man City? Mason Greenwood was going to go if he wasn’t injured - what had he done to justify that?

That Matt Law is a Spurs writer and was so far off the money with all the Kane stuff, pretty much said exactly the opposite of everything that happened. Not sure i’d believe a word of what he says tbh.

I do think credit to him for wanting to leave to just play football, rather than leave to sit on the bench for a bigger club. Lots of young players aren’t waiting around anymore, and want to get games straight away, as we’ve seen with Sancho in particular but there’s a few more young players who have left PL clubs to go abroad for game time. It’s a shame all we saw was that horror show against United, I hope he goes on to do well.

Lots on Twitter that Brandon Williams’ season long loan is about to be finalised. Fabrizio Romano said to have confirmed it in a video.

I thought Vestergaard was really good against England, stepped into midfield and won a few great tackles to stop England attacks too. Agree with the feeling towards Sam Matterface though, dreadful. Remember listening to him on TalkSport a few times and thinking how glad I was he doesn’t commentate on TV games, now he’s commentating on the biggest games in my lifetime ffs.

Of the strikers in the Prem that are ‘available’, Tammy Abraham would be the best/most exciting probably. But as mentioned, i’m sure the figures mentioned around him have been ridiculous.

Well in that scenario it should’ve been don’t give it, as the lino flagged it offside. So without VAR it wouldn’t have been given.

Not really though - the offside was given by the linesman at the time, which looked correct. VAR took an absolute age to then overrule a marginal decision, to give a 4th goal in a 4-0 defeat in the 94th minute. Hardly an effective example of VAR in action.

He always seemed a big threat when I watched Fulham. I’d lost interest in him whilst he was at Everton but his spell at Fulham showed he’s definitely good enough at this level.

I think it was him being shit which drew most criticism

I agree, watching the game last night, whilst desperate for JWP to get the call up, all I could think by the end was ‘we need another CB in the squad’. Mings is an absolute liability, so it basically leaves us with Stones and Coady until Maguire is fit (might not even be fit for the group games). Disaster waiting to happen.

Losing the 4th right back and replacing him with a CB just shows how badly the squad was picked in the first place. Maguire clearly isn’t going to be fit for the first game, leaving us with Stones, Mings and Coady as proper CB’s. Mings is terrible, so White is definitely needed. Thank god our 4th choice RB got injured, really.

Regardless of what Southgate or any commentator tries to say, this gesture entered football in support of BLM. It’s not questionable. It was on the shirts, it was in the stands, it was on the Sky score icon at the top of the screens. Then, when clubs (Palace maybe?) and others started to question the ethics behind supporting BLM the organisation, the Premier League rowed back and distanced themselves saying BLM didn’t stand for that. But at the same time, removed all branding etc from shirts and stadiums. That doesn’t suddenly mean it isn’t associated. I have no problem with kneeling staying, as long as no repercussions are taken against those who boo it. As the attendances increase, so will the booing imo. Some applaud, some boo. That’s the public outlook on this ceremony at the start of the game, both the conflicting receptions are perfectly allowed. I’ll be surprised if the gesture remains next season as more fans start to attend, but we’ll see.