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I am sure that he doesn’t need you standing in for him but as you have he has a record of wading in on Muslims and ignoring the wider issues. Are you saying that Muslim men have the monopoly on misogyny? Look at the domestic violence, rape and sexual assault record in the Western world. I really don’t think we can take the moral high ground.

Back on the beat? No wonder you are still stuck in the last century. The days of the cheery local Bobby giving a the local oiks a clip around the ear is long gone, along with chicks and birds. You need a highly mobile and well equipped force nowadays. The community officers were supposed to give local support to communities, but your party have cut numbers so much that that doesn’t happen as it should. Perhaps if we had a government full of “snowflakes” we would have the funding for the policing we need.

What about rape in general? Or is it just Muslim gang rape that upsets you?

If it was about ego why not keep you job and ditch the minions?

Apparently Gao is the 9th richest owner in the Prem.

An unelected advisor seems to be running the country.

If it was I think we would have heard about it on here from a usual suspect. No. He is a Christian.

I have have added the the whole Criminal Justice System has been decimated, not just the police but the CPS, the probation service, the court service, the lot.

Good to see at least one Tory has a moral compass.

So true. I worked closely with a number of police officers for 8 years and moral dropped year by year as the spendings cuts bit.

An ex monk has just been jailed for sexually assaulting 3 boys under the age of 13. After the first occasion he admitted his offence to his elders. Instead of reporting him to the police they just sent him to another parish and he consequently reoffended. Anyone outraged?

Give it a rest mate.

Kent Police have to cut their budget by £9m in the next financial year which isn’t helpful. When I was on the Parish Council I got to know the local officers. They were very helpful but due to cuts in numbers had to cover large areas so we didn’t see much of them. If deployed correctly they can play a useful part in local policing but as with the full police officers, there aren’t enough of them out and about. Even if the recruitment figures are to be believed, the numbers will be well below what they should be.

What planet are you on Whelk?

Just looked at the proposed journey times. There doesn’t seem to be a huge saving in time given the cost. It cuts nearly an hour off of the journeys to Scotland but flying will still be quicker and cheaper. As for Brum and Manchester, again will the quicker times be worth the expense and the cost of the ticket?

From a Newcastle grooming gang court case, the judge concluded that the gang selected their victims “not because of their race, but because they young, impressionable, naive and vulnerable.” Their victims included girls with learning difficulties and mental health issues.

But no investigation into why 85% of the sexual offenders who happen to be white do it? How much do you know about the girls who were groomed by the gangs here? It would appear that in one case they were constantly hanging around a fast food shop. Maybe familiarity and availability had more to do with it other than they were “poor white girls” of “lesser value.” You might be too young to remember the first floods of British tourists to Spain but the Spanish guys loved it. Shed loads of drunk British girls ripe for picking. Predators go for the easiest pray.

And you have an anti Muslim agenda.

By far the biggest sexual offenders in this country are white. Some individuals might quote lines from their holy scriptures, some might sing Beatles songs. Focussing on a small element only goes to prove that there is an agenda. Rape and sexual assaults are predominately carried out by males, and mostly white males in the UK. Those with an agenda will dig down into individual cases all they want to try and show that it is a particular problem of one religion, but that is deliberately missing the point. Women have been sexually assaulted by men of all races and creeds since time began. It is not just a problem with Muslims.

I haven’t read in any religious books that it says that rape and sexual assault is ok. Let’s not confuse misogyny for religious doctrine. Rape is rape. It doesn’t suddenly become a worse crime because someone sticks a religious label on it, unless it is someone with an agenda. The Christian clergy would still be kiddy fiddlers even if they weren’t members of the clergy. The Asian members of rape gangs aren’t grooming and raping girls because they are Muslims. They are doing it because they are sexual predators. It seems odd that the overwhelming majority of Muslims do not commit rape if their religion is telling them that is what they must do. Islam doesn’t have the monopoly on sexual predators, nor does it have the monopoly on misogyny. Those pretending that somehow it is worse clearly have an anti Muslim agenda.

I have kids at Glasgow Uni and would much rather take the train up to see them but it is so much cheaper to fly.

Don’t worry. I’m sure that they have factored that into their passenger projections.

No my perception is around men. Do you think that non Muslim rapists hold women in any higher esteem than Muslim rapists? It is an issue around gender, not religion. The far right seize on the religious aspect of it as it suits their purpose which is to demise foreigners. The far right make a much bigger deal out of sex crimes committed by foreigners. Yes there is an issue with Asian rape gangs. There is also a bigger issue of non Asian sex offenders. Every day hundreds of women are sexually assaulted and raped but they either don’t report the acts or don’t follow through with a prosecution because they are intimidated by our own criminal justice system. Surely this is equally deserving of our outrage? But apart from the occasional media report, no one really cares other than the victims and their friends and family. An Asian gang rape is much more outrage worthy than the far greater number of solitary rapes that are carried out every day. Why? Because they are carried out by “foreigners.” If they groom and rape 20 girls you will hear about it. If during the same period 100 solitary non Muslims rapes happen, you will not know about it. That is not unanimity. A rape or sexual assault is far more likely to be carried out by someone the victims knows than an Asian gang. We should be just as outraged with that. Oh, and I don’t follow a Tommy Robinson or any other right wing nutters on social media. Unfortunately these people spill out on other forms of social media, yes, even here. I didn’t even know who Tommy Robinson was until I read about him on a thread here.

I agree with your point about having sex with under aged girls. John Peel, David Bowie, Bill Wyman, Robert Plant, Jimmy Page and many more famous people from the 70’s have all had sex with under aged girls yet they are still seen as heroes. Ok for some and not for others?

No ambiguity? Why then does a Muslim rapist get more grief than a non Muslim rapist? I don’t see Tommy Robinson standing outside the court when alleged white non Muslim rapists are being charged. Kiddy fiddling has been going on for years and is still going on for years in the Christian church and is still going on. Would you say that the outrage shown is on the same scale? Of course there is ambiguity. Muslims are told they need to do more to stamp this out in their communities. Fair enough, but you don’t hear the same said about sex crimes committed in non Muslims communities by non Muslims. There is a clear prejudice against Muslims just as there is against Jews from some quarters. The difference seems to be that anti-semetism is seen as bad whereas Islamaphobia is seen as more acceptable. And before the usual suspects get all offended you only have to look at the last election where Corbyn got grief for the anti-semitism in the Labour Party yet the same outrage didn’t occur for Johnson for the Islamaphobia within the Tory Party.