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British values? https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/04/nigel-farage-defends-ann-widdecombe-over-gay-therapy-comments https://www.thepinknews.com/2019/12/12/brexit-party-lgbt-rights-general-election-2019-nigel-farage-ann-widdecombe/

As has been said numerous times, the criticism of Netanyahu, his government and the IDF is shut down by claims of antisemitism. From heads of state, the UN, aid agencies right down to random posters on a football website. Your constant criticism of Muslims and support of those who criticise Muslims has nothing to do with them destroying houses, schools, universities, hospitals and tens of thousands of innocent civilians and the oppression of a much weaker people and everything to do with the followers of Islam. There is a difference and just to illustrate it further, my criticism of the Netanyahu’s government has only been going on since the day after 7th October. Your criticism of Muslims has been going on here for years.

Having said originally that Sunak didn’t understand our culture, clearly a racist comment, he is now trying to pretend that he didn’t understand because of class and wealth. King Charles is minted and I am pretty sure that Cameron isn’t short of a penny or two. Both would be described as being quite high on the class barometer. They seemed to understand how important the occasion was. Just be honest Nigel, for a change. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13511143/amp/nigel-farage-rishi-sunak-d-day-culture-commemoration.html

Not good news as it makes Netanyahu more exposed to the far right. https://amp.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/09/moderate-politician-benny-gantz-resigns-israeli-war-cabinet Another incident of the IDF killing innocent civilians, this from 2003. “Cold blooded murder.” https://amp.theguardian.com/media/2006/apr/05/pressandpublishing.broadcasting

No but I check under my bed to check that you and Turkish aren’t there. Baby Reindeers the both of you. It’s ok for you to accuse others of being antisemitic, lefties, centrist blobs etc but you get tetchy when called out yourself. As said before, you need to change your name to hypocrite. Shall we give it a rest for a while? I’m sure the other posters are bored shitless with this.

According to Ofsted, these are the fundamental British values that one or more of the regular posters on here think that British Muslims do not adhere to. Democracy The Rule of Law Individually Liberty Mutual Respect

So you can’t really give us a proper list but you know that all Muslims don’t share any of those values. Ok. Sounds pretty Islamophobic to me. Examples? The “thank God my wife isn’t a Muslim” quote. Your claim that all UK Muslims were complicit in terrorists acts because they didn’t go to the police with information. The inference being that all Muslims have links to terrorists. Your constance defence of people who criticism normal British born/based Muslims. Back to British values. Would you say that British values involve welcoming asylum seekers to our shores, treating them well, assessing their claims and dealing fairly with them according to the outcome or either sinking the boats or shipping all of them off to an African country whether they have a legitimate claim or not? Do you think that there are any gay Muslims? Do all Muslims believe that homosexuality should not be tolerated? Do you think that there are still non Muslims who believe that homosexuality should not be tolerated and have no tolerance of trans people.

I was wrong about the Tebbit test. Here it is in greater detail. https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/nov/28/lord-tebbit-migrants-grandfather-war

I took time to clarify because you were either being deliberately obtuse or not very bright. You are very happy to make “extremely serious charges” against others on a football forum but kick off when you get some of your own treatment. If it is really that serious, sue me. Let’s get back to the crux of the matter. Please provide us with your definitive list of what constitutes “British values.” Wasn’t one of Norman Tebbit’s tests to understand the rules of cricket?

Where do these views fall on the political spectrum? https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/may/26/nigel-farage-under-fire-said-muslims-not-share-british-values An interesting investigation on the use of the term “far right” when applied to the Reform Party. https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/its-a-mistake-to-call-reform-uk-far-right/

He has got the title of Biggest Narcissist of the Forum sown up every year 😉

Fair do’s. I didn’t know about his coaching experience with England.

It didn’t need clarification. I made that clear in the first post. I don’t share your values. I also think you are a hypocrite. You call me out for my criticism of the Israeli government and military and their treatment of a minority group but at every opportunity you diss all Muslims. You call out what you perceive to be antisemitism whilst practising Islamophobia yourself. I guess you will be voting Reform then? It explains why you support the far right mouthpieces that I criticise.

Explain to us these “British values” please. Let’s explore your Islamophobic views shall we?

Only it didn’t need any clarification. And yet again you get upset when others criticise politics far removed from the centrist/moderate right.

Where do these views fall on the political spectrum? https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/may/26/nigel-farage-under-fire-said-muslims-not-share-british-values http://religiousreader.org/why-nigel-farages-anti-muslim-statements-are-nothing-new/

This was what I posted yesterday which makes it abundantly clear that I would support PR even though it would give more of a voice to those who views I find abhorrent. I really can’t be any clearer than that.

For goodness sake. Just read what I have said. I have even spelt it out for you.

An equitable adjustment to the tax bands is long overdue and it is disappointing that Labour haven’t had the balls to do something about that yet in their pledges. Obvious why though. I think most people would agree that those with the broadest shoulders should carry the most weight. The trouble is more and more of the burden has fallen more and more on those who can least afford it whilst those at the top of the economic tree have seen their burden proportionality lessened. Hopefully now the idea of a trickle down economy is finally a busted flush.

You calling someone a mentalist is rich. Again, go back a read what I said. I’m sure you would see the “positive” if someone started repeating the rhetoric of Hitler or Stalin 😂. You see everything through a hypochondriac prism. You need to think about changing the lens. I shall spell it out for you. I believe that people, even people I vehemently disagree with, have a right to express their opinions. Other people also have the right to disagree. I start to have issues when people like you (to use your own language) pretend to be “liberal” but constantly jump on anyone with any centrist views and support those with further right views. At least have the balls to be honest about your true agenda as Duckhunter is. The bloke makes Attila the Hun look like a raging pinko but at least he has the front to say what he really means.

The main issue here is that he is 36 years old and has had a series of injuries. If they are thinking of buying him to play I think the money should be spent elsewhere. If they are buying him as a coach, is it because he was from the academy and the optics are good or is it because he is one of the best coaches out there?

If I wanted to silence them I would support their right to have a voice in Parliament would I? I suggest you make more of an effort to read what I say rather than what you think I am saying. As for the “far right” term that I use to describe much of the Tory Party now, and Reform, does this article mean that Europe is being taken over by fascists? The term “far right” is used to describe an element of politics that is well away from the centre but not quite at the end of that spectrum. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv22p9dl415o.amp

I would certainly agree with the need for PR but would prefer to see more centrist “blob” parties than the likes of UKIP, BNP. Sadly, with a more democratic system it gives a voice to more loonies, xenophobes and flag shaggers as well as the more well balanced people.

It is an election. He is the leader of one of the parties. Brown MP? Would that be a brown MP whose parents were immigrants when I was making a point about their policy on immigration. You really need to do better Delldays. Before voting for any of these chancers, I can thoroughly recommend James O’Brien’s book, How They Broke Britain. A well researched dissection of how we got where we are today.

Given that Keir Starmer’s wife is Jewish it makes the slur even more unpleasant. Will he get labelled as antisemitic? Probably not. No one said a word about Islamophobia when he made offensive remarks against Muslims. Surprised that no one picked up on Farage’s racist slip of the tongue. When talking about Sunak’s gaff in returning early from France, he said that Sunak “doesn’t have our instincts.” That would be the same Rishi Sunak who was born and raised here Nige.