OldNick

Phil I get the jist but FP only holds 20k fans and that includes 2000 away fans, therefore the situation is dire. The WWF also have said that the Skates have the other major problem that they shed their skin and replace it with Man u or Chelsea shirts according to who wins the league. The WWF have asked people to phone in if you see a Pompey fan as they are hoping to recoerd them, they will have 1 phone operator manning the phone waiting for the odd phonecall. The idea of tagging was dropped as it would have given an incorrect figure as the survey was in Portsmouth and would be confusing with the general population

The sad thing is i think you would lol

Good one.

No i think they are saying is 'Im not getting any of that so why should they' (I would point out that I am not in line for a big inheritence payout)

and 42 years of mine.Top trumped

If we had to win that game it would not have been the starting line up. Period. Therefore we were weakened, or played a weakened side.Next week against Southend would have been fine to have done so, we need to learn to go to Gillingham and win. Playing a side that was not as likely to win is not reinforcing that thought for next season

I was saying we need a vat increase but explaining my thoughts on its fairness when it was levied/increased

Yep,HBOS will be a long time getting us money back. I did read at the time of the crash that Brown said that they had bought derivatives 3 years ahead (all toxic) We will be paying for that

oh no, a friend of the family plays for Luton. He'd love to play for us.

that so called expert with her today is a Pompey fan. He didn't even know why a mule chest is called so (as in not a horse nor donkey, ie not a coffer or a chest of drawers). I knew him when he was a salesroom porter in Salisbury.

You ought to put that to Wedgewood Benn about his wealth, add all the others who wave the same flag.

that is correct, I feel the same when people go on about how well Pompey have done etc etc. They have had all season to get to safety with 3 of the worst teams to play in the PL. Saying all that ,I still would be upset if we were struggling for survival if our opponents were handed a gimme as they had faced a team that were weakened.

The buyers would lose out as they still will pay more than they would do so as the conditions are now.

Supply of prime land , prime position commands a premium that is obvious.How long do you think it will take for land prices to drop to the level that the 20% could be absorbed so that the builders would not be losing their margin? My understanding would be that the builders have bought the land a year or so before the houses come to market. They cant adjust the next day and still take a 20%hit on prices.

I didnt hear that but Clear did say something about a flat rate nad like the utilities it may be 5% Of course once the tax has been put on the item, it will never go away and then is tempting for any chancellor in the future to raise it.After the initial taking away of that perk, it becomnes easier for the exchequor to push that tax a bit more. Stop it before it is applied would be best for all of us. I do wonder that as none of the other leaders crucified Clegg on this issue they may well have similar ideas

Wade the other night Brown kept saying that the inheritence tax is going to give 3000 of the countries richest 200k a year. You only die once and so I cant see how he is giving it to those famillies every year. The 3000 families probably have estates are of 50m or more, the saving from 600k to 1m would not make a difference to their lives. They have to try nd sort out how not to give in excess of 20m to the tax man on their death not gaining 200k

Interesting graph, I assume we are at the blow off stage/ return to normal. The lack of supply is keeping prices up IMO We have sold up and are living in rented at present awaiting an opportunity, so far it has surprised that prices have stayed firm. Lack of decent properties coming up has kept the prices on the high side. I have seen a few high value repos come to the market and that may become greater. Our decision to sell and wait may then become the right one. If prices rise (not in my expectation)then our gamble would have failed. That's life I suppose we will just have to keep looking and waiting .At least we have the cash to move if and when an oppoortunity arises.

Well at present Iam not wrong about Pompey, they have gone against all normal business practice and are winning. Building land value is high due to the fact that it is a finite product. Putting tax on the sell price will give the builders the same margin? I doubt it as a house say now with a value of 100k would be shall we say if a 10% vat rate (as an example) would be £110k So with the tight rules the lenders are giving and their expectantcy of wanting a 30% downpayment makes it harder for buyers.Therefore less buyers, the builders may try and adjust their prices, so less profit smaller margin. In turn land does drop in value, but not before many builders will go out of business as their land bank would be purchased at the current rates and also many tradesmen laid off. To think a vat levy on house prices would help builders is bizarre IMO.I can't think of any tax that has helped business but you obviously know better.

true to a degree but if you are fighting for survival you require all the others doing the same.

The warnoings of Northern Rock didnt make them make moves to stop the dealings immediately, as for the profit Lol, it wouldnt even cover the loss on the gold price he cost us by selling it nunpence.

Of course , the builders would take a 20% hit!!!!!. Are you sure you are not Gordon Brown When vat goes up on fuel do the petrol companies just absorb it or on any other products? Adding VAT ot building costs would be passed on. They of course may make it a lower rate eg 5% but once it has been but on it will be a progressive tax.

VAT is a fair tax as the spenders pay. It is the spenders who have put our trade deficit in the state it is in. VAT was raised from 15 to 17.5% as the poll tax (a fair tax IMO, everybody pays for the services provided) was so objected to. The money had to be raised and that was the most effective way.

No they are right. I would have whined like a girl if we needed the opposion to lose only to have a weakened side put out. When we wnt down Man U played a weakened side at home to WBA who stole a draw. That helped them stay up...not forgetting Pompey helping as well

Watching the leaders debates the other night, nobody really pressed Clegg about his plans to charge vat on new build and new houses. Has anyone details of what they say about that in their referendum. I may have misunderstood the issue and it is only on new build extensions etc, but if it covers new houses that would add a massive amount to costs. PS I forgot to put ? mark on the thread title sorry

and you are worried if the Tories come to power Lol. Labour have swept all the problems under the carpet and it is a timebomb. No-one will come out of this unscathed whoever you are (except MP's pensions of course )