OldNick

Can you tell me when a protest by fans has made a chairman step down.I cant recall any, managers yes not chairman. We have a fragmented fanbase and a fragmented crowd whose support is diluted by standing on 2 sides next to the away fans. we must have the worst scenario where our team have the singing fans in 2 small wedges.The best campaign would be to have the Northam and Itchen singing fans to relocate to the centre of the Chapel.To have a Milton road of the 70's sucking the ball into the net, an end that the team could really attack and have the opposition fearing/not enjoying to play behind. It is something the club has lost, a proper end to kick to.The Itchen and Northam do their best but are up against the away supporters and so our support is nullified to a degree.

The Leeds fans support was superb and we had threads on S4E commenting on it. Just do as you wish my words mean nothing and you will do as you wish anyway. i myself believe that every little fraction we can help will do us all good in the longrun.The demonstrations will not get the removal of RL but perhaps hasten our relegation. fans will be fighting fans again and whilst many dont care about that , each time it happens that stops another tranche of fans going to games.the scenes at the Doncaster game definately stopped some frans bringing thier wives and children to games. I personally know of 2 sets of people who will not go to games while there is a threa of fans doing what they did against Doncaster.

Its true but having fans on your back will only make things worse IMO

We hit the post twice. I wasnt at the game but have seen the highlights and on the ballance of those a draw would have been fair.The penalty was soft but Rudi did hold his shirt, although we had a good handball shout in the second half which waqs not given.The tv did not show BC's first goal, he did look offside to me.We were in with a shout of getting something until their second

You are wrong thereStu , up to the last seconds we were in there for a point

That i think is unfair. I agree with you on many of your other points sepecially the 'in the trenches' spirit.

Perhaps definately was the wrong word.Unhelpful and counter productive. I have said that the support has been good and that we have yet to be repaid. Put it another way, if we were going to play away at another club and knew the fans would be up against their own board and ready to turn against the team at any moment we would be rubbing our hands.

That is not fair Dunc, you mentioned the reason Moyes didnt come was because he wished for his own backroom staff nothing to do with salary.

i dont understand where you are coming from on that one

You are wrong , the Leeds support was superb throughout that game and it was thier fans belief that roared them on.the players didnt give up as the fans hadn't.I have never liked Leeds fans but from that day i have the utmost respect for their support.

You wont change your mind and will be egging the fans on to sing anti Lowe songs.You will believe you are doing it for the right reasons but take it from me you are only cutting off your nose to spite your face.if the atmosphere is not focussed on supporting the team then we will most definatley lose.it may be best is the Saints go marching out do not come back to the stadium for the game.

I dont many weren't sceptical about the scheme but were understanding enough to realiser that the clubs finances were out of control and so drastic measures had to be taken.It wasnt a case of not realising that it was risky but we had a party and the hangover had to be got over.

Then why do clubs kick to their fans second half. Speak to the pro footballers and they will tell you the fans do help.I was talking to a couple of the Luton players when they went and played at Bournemouth and said to them about their good away support on the night and they said how much it meant to them and did give them a boost. I know the team havent performed at home but surely it will turn soon.I f not you are right and we are doomed.

Stu Im amazed how defeatist you are. i understand why you are like it but there are 14 games to go still.The side that was put out saturday was full of the experienced players the fans have been begging for and also a 4-4-2. We still can do it, haing the fans in turmoil during the game wil not help the club we adore, why help the opposition?

The potential of the club is no more than a dozen or so more clubs in the country.If we go into admiistration and are L1 the time to get us back into position to get to the PL will be another thing to put off an investor. Sheffield United last game last season under LC 32000 Manchester United FA cup under RL 32000. Whoever is in charge and the games are glamourous or important fans will turn up. I defy any fan who tells me if we were in the top 2 that the crowds at SMS would be under 25k now.

Yes they do do replays but I was more interested in watching how the 2 players were trying to deal with the very fast attacker. I was not looking to see why a player who was in the penalty area trying to score when the ball was thrown to an attacker 20 yards further forward, had not got back.it was a rubbish point originally. The players gave what they could which waqs not enough and why knock us when they were trying to throw everything forward to get a goal. I recall Alonso scoring from a similar attack last season I odubt many would criticise the players of his opponents because they didnt get back.

I think you have to go back to the time that the choice was made.I agree that Moyes would have been superb as he works well with little finance. When Moyes was interviewed GH had left and taken a lot of the backroom staff, Stuart Gray was the only one who turned down GH's invitation to leave.RL repaid his loyalty by keeping him in his job. Moyes of course wished to bring in Irvine in Grays place and so RL was caught between a rock and a hard place. Whilst in hindsight it was a mistake I find it difficult to criticise that particular decision if you put yourself back to that time. Wigley and Jan too long would be worse IMO

It is a non starter. How can a council justify purchasing afootball ground?

Well both, if you take away the powers of the Bank of England to stop the transgressions you are left open for peoples greed to take over.The Government did so and the also enjoyed spending the spoils the City brought in on taxes.If speeding regulations were dropped by the Goverenment and only run by people who were likely to speed it would not be long until cars were going along at 150mph,when there was a massive pileup who would you blame then? Imagine you had the chance to make enough money in 2-3 years to allow your family to live in luxury for generations, but in the back of your mind it might mean messing up the system. It would be legally OK but morally wrong what would you do? I myself truely am not sure but probably would veer to the security for life.By taking the regulations away the Government effectivily gave the higher echelon of bankers that opportunity.Forget not many of them were not British and so not too worried about us and the ones that were can now sit back on their deckchaors. Iam a capitalist but do not condone the excesses those bankers have had. As for being revolutionary , give me a break.Under any socialist system the ones at the top only live like royalty but with more excess.

the post was just too complex for you to work out

Yet another who didnt read the posts. I have seen the goal once and the cameras were concentrating on the attacker, when the ball was in the net i couldnt care who was following up and so you are being a right Plum, Plumstead and even went and counted my posts.What a saddo

OK I give in......

Well I cant comment as I wasnt looking.Frankly it wouldnt matter if we had Linford Christie he would not have made up the ground. As for the players giving up so have the majority of fans. 2 players were there and were skinned by superior pace

Good examples DD