OldNick

If we were gettinmg 28k crowds it may have prolonged the inevitable, but people would be more inclined to invest.

Dream on Mike.It is a fallacy that he blocked investment, he with Wilde and LC did not agree to SISU as they wouldnt answer pertinent questions. I have long held the belief that the Paul Allen deal was held up by other respected people at the club,many scoff at that but I believe it like you do RL did the same.I do know if the PA thing is true and that the people dithered and couldnt make their minds up is true anything RL did wrong is nothing. UMp has put forward a very good case it wasn't true but from people i know that were on both sides of the board were very much believing it was the truth. I wonder if ever there were minutes of meetings that could now be accessed?

I understand your point Docker P but dont get too comfortable with some of those returning fans saturday as they will disappear again until the next train crash is going to happen.Pre Sheff Utd last season what was the average 22K last game 32000 , new season 19k (yes there were factors to account for that) saturday when we look as we may only play 3 more home games 30k , if we are saved or relegated back to 10k-15k. i dont care who i sit to if they are saints fans as long as they are there good and bad. Welcome back to every one of the returning fans but this time you have no excuses not to keep coming back week on week.

I wholeheartedly agree with point 2, even though his record was not good he at least had the fans behind him.If we had only won 3 in 17 this season then the crowds would be pretty much the same as now. Whoever was in charge would have to make massive cuts and it would be interesting how LC would have done so.Very difficult for whoever was in charge and having to reduce the overdraft by a million in these times is even harder. RL kept Jan too long, but cutting the clubs costs was thre only way forward.

We had days of adulation and how the investment would roll in as Lowe had left, the ground would be full .....and then where did it get us.Again I dont want anyone but Lowe but something that will give us a future.

How do you know that? On the eve we went into administration the story doing the rounds at the club was that it was easier for a takeover to happen if we had done so, a bidder was sniffing as you may recall but couldnt get into positon even though they extended the deadline.It was nothing to do because of Lowe. Frankly i dont care who takes over in our present position as we dont have any choice now.Fans who wanted admin are now going to see exactly how nasty a rollercoater ride it will be. watford and Swansea will already be pleased as the price they were due to pay for nathan and Rasiak will be on the floor, other clubs will be circling for any other nugget they can nick.Ok the players leaving will not be for a few weeks but it will happen if none of those tyrekickers do not come up with the goods.

This type of post brings me back to when the Wilde bunch rode into town,

It is no real surprise that fans are turning out in numbers, how about they pledge their support for next season as well.I went and visited a sick relative just before they died, sadly i didnt in the months leading up to it and probably still wouldnt have had he still be alive.

I would guarentee my purchases and even the longer term ones mentioned in an above post.The only problem I can see with a lifelong one is that the club get the money all at one time and if you had another roulette turn of the wheel set up again it would all be peed against the wall and so we would be back to square 1.

That doesnt surprise me, would any CEO put money in? If it is a family businness then you put your own money in. Surely LC could have stumped up 100k to keep the company going if he was prepared to put 2m in.I do not expect him to have done so, why should he as it is basically giving evey7 shareholder a few bob each. We now have a clean slate for all the investors who are said to be lined up to buy the club cheaply and i hope they do so. I will support them in the same way i did the last regime as i understand it is a business and so the priority is stable finances first then spend wisely on the squad. You cant put the cart before the horse.

I have tried but I cant get an info as the people I know dont know anything what is going on either.There seems to be confusion what all the administration will bring.

Great sentiment SitS , it certainly will be poignant seeing buckets collecting a few bob for our club.Baj is right though

How about the club issuing fans an offer that they guarentee to buy a s/t next season? if we could get 15-20000 guarentors to purchase that would also send a message to investors.

Corbett is MC, although she is only very minor part of our woes as she was helpful in bringing Wilde to the table, but perhaps the most disasterous decision. Askham was the catlyst to all this now and only a small % of fans seem to grasp the fact. LC is the closest thing to being decent although his heart ruled his head too much add a little vanity, Cowan im told is a decent man and Richards gave a good evaluation from his standpoint wehen he tried to argue against Wildes bunch.

I saw a snippet on the local news last night and was impressed by his manner. Great respect of him was earned last night.

To be fair did any of them?

I wont leave RL's name off the list, i want the figures released what he took on in the summer.It has been alluded to on here that the overdraft was over 6m in the summer and he cut it to 4m. Some fans have been baying for administration in the somewhat mad way so that he loses his money.How about us that may lose the club.The tyrekickers are circling but now they really can buy the club with no apparent obstacles lets see what they do. Im a Saints Luvvie and have spent my life supporting them and defending them from idiots who want to hurt it. I hold my hand up as i was very vocal in not wanting GH back, if he had returned without a doubt we would not be where we are now.I have played my little part in the demise but only because i care and see things from my standpoint and will put my position forward. I myself do not believe its pro Lowe but just a reasonable position on the finances. LC was very bold in admitting his part in all this, I hope RL does take his share of the blame as he was part of the whole.Are you prepared to also accept that Askham through to Mc also played a part. They were all in the decision making process over the last 2 decades and more?

I still cannot comprehend how so called Saints fans let us basically get relegated before they would do a deal.I will be happy for them to take over but I will be sceptical that they have real feeling for the club to let us get to this.

Barclays are trying to deflect the fact that they wouldnt lend a bit more and keep customer relations going. They need us or someone to take over as they are 4m out of pocket at present and the 100k they wouldnt stump up will be a fraction of what they wil lose.

I take it that he wants us to survive so he can take the p###. Begging for us to get the 10 point penalty. I dont blame him though, although when they were in our position i felt for their football fans not their thugs.

Well it was supposed to be coming down south on the M3 this morning.Bates is a tax exilke in Monaco and so it may not be anytrhing to do with him.

The whole acadamy set up must be in peril.The players will train at the ground and then the pitch will be cut to pieces.The whole lot will spiral down.Any body wishing for Administraion will soon see the hard depressing thing unfold.Yes we may have rid the club of 1 man but the cost is so much. The club i have supported for 40 years is unravelling in fromnt of my eyes and I feel helpless. Lets hope there is osmeone out there who hurts like us and has the money

when they were in the mire a group of saints fans approached them to offer some money collected and they told them to f-off

Yes on those terms he was indeed entitled to a testimonial.

Thats the spirit