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Ah, ****** to them. I prefer Professor Richard Holmes. A proper military historian, better than Sharma and Starkey and, as a previous commander of the 2nd Battalion, The Wessex Regiment and Honorary Colonel of the Southampton University Officer Training Corps is probably a closet Saints fan. Don't know, only ever seen him from a distance, on TV and a big painting of him at Sandhurst, but why wouldn't he be.

The Problem is that up until 1938 you would have respected the Nazi's and so would most of us. And I'll tell you why. We had no real views as to the way they were treating Jews in Germany and Austria. In the newsreels, especially around 1936 olympics, that Mr Hitler was shown as a 'very Good Leader' for Germany, and a great ambassador for sport around the world,(It'll be on YouTube somewhere, the Pathe news reel with Jesse Owens winning the gold) and only outspoken politicians,(like Winston Churchill) and certain members of the media, (Lord Beaverbrook) had any problem with him. And all this was down to Propaganda, the information people back then based their opinions on was the sanitised oft un-true version spread by Nazis, and becasue it was printed, it became fact. Charlie Chaplin, in the great Dictator, actually failed in his mission to show Hitler upto the world as a crazy dictator by making Hitler a target of Fun, (he has only one ball, you know). I don't want to give you all a History lesson but here is an often used example of positive spin, with information control at the heart of it. It's the same here. We used to have all the goings on at the club being spouted out and loads of ITKers revealing the information. Now, that information is being tightly controlled, so that there are not ITKers in the sense of the word any more. Oh, I don't doubt that people still have contacts at the club, and that they still get tit bits, but unlike before when the tit bits were close to the truth, now even those at the heart of the club can only speculate. If NC is the type of professional i believe, he closely controls what information goes out, and he knows who can be trusted, and who cant. And what do you do in business to those you don't trust?(Treat em like sh** and be really mean and sack-em i hear you cry). No, NC will do what most managers would do. Those close to you you isolate, keep in the dark, control what you tell them and starve them of attention and they either change, or they go. Those below or outside your direct control, why worry about them as they will either like the new regieme, or will leave. No need to threaten, bully or put fear into, and it means you don't break no employment laws. So, with this control of information and no one knowing anything worthwile, unlike yesteryear, this causes frustrations for ALL of us, so some form opinions on the scantist of evidence, some form opionion based on personal feeling, '...If I was Nicola, that is what I would do. '.some try and mind read and assume that NC does things with no evidence at all, then make up statements that they believe will pass as evidence: An example: (Taken From Family Guy) Lois Griffen - kids, your father has a lump and i'm worried about him. Meg Griffen - Oh, Mum. Debbie Janson's father had a lump and he was perfectly fine Lois Griffen - Whose Debbie Janson? Meg Griffen - A girl at my school that I just made up. Too much is based on nothing at all and taken as fact. Also, too much is taken as fact when you have to question the source. Example: Was the Echo Banned? No, because Nicola/The Club says so on the official web site. just because they say so, doesn't mean it's true. So, lets stop calling each others names and try and keep an open mind. Surly we can debate as adults and wise men, with out resulting to name calling and personal attacks. We all have several things in common, believe it or not, SFC being one of them. Information is a two edge sword, it cuts both ways.

It's a couple of years old, and I could argue under sale of goods act about reasonable time for enjoyment, but that starts to stretch after 18 months, (i'm a bit of an anorack on the Sale Of Goods act and consumer law.)

Thanks Stevo

Can anyone reccomend a decent TV repair company? My Flat screen went poof after being off for a coupkle of weeks due to us redecorating the living room, and when I put it on it went on for about five minutes then a click and off. I haven't had to have a TV repaired in such a long time I don't know who to go to, and don't want to be ripped of. Any help would be greatfully recived.

I do have to wonder, If the TOP 4 did this, would there be outrage in the press still or would the press continue to kiss their arses in fear of not being given access to our World Cup Stars?

Sorry but look at this from his (ML) perspective - Are we in debt? No, - Are we bringing in revenue? Yes - Do we have a team that will prosper this season? Yes, BUT it could be better - Do we have plans to improve ourselves? Yes - Is there time to improve? Yes - Do we have plans to make us even more self sustainable? Yes - Does it matter if the press are unhappy? No - Is the press a main revenue stream? No - Are we looking to make them a revenue stream? Yes, not a large one. I am confessing that this latest decision by Nicola is quite bizzarre and for thei first time I don't agree with it and don't see the reasoning behind it, but as long as we aren't hemmeraging money, why should Marcus care. And I don't agree with the 'get some old board types back'. this is tantamount to Dave Cameron ringing up Gordon Brown and saying, 'Any chance you could do the budget for us?'.

Got to be honest, I have been more in favour of NC lately but even this one I think is daft.

Well done GM. I have to say coming from you this is a positive thing. It was a pleasurable read and a nice to know.

Don't laugh. I agree with him. Now this business is over they can work towards getting back to the BLUE SQUARE Premier League. Where they belong. C*****

well, you could have written this couln't you. The cheaters have prospered and I can only hope that karma punish them and they continue to suffer. Going down, with a bit of luck. I suddenly have a lot of teams to support, the whole championship minus one plus saints.

Trousers, Just done you a favour. I'm working in Fords at the moment in...............Dagenham, so I just grabbed the Motor chef from his van, whose a Dagenham fan, and got him to vote for Saints. I had to buy a large Chilli Concarnie and a cheese and pickle roll, plus a crazy milk drink that I think they stopped manufacturing in the eighties, but anything for another Saints fan.

Just to put my two pennies in: I don't fully agree with Alpine, but sometimes I agree with him fully I don't fully agree with DBP/SRS/The Mask, but I have agreed with him occasionally in the past I don't fully agree with DSM, but I agree with him more than not I don't fully agree with Stevegrante, but mostly I agree with him I don't fully agree with Hypo, but I agree with him most of the time I don't fully agree with Smirkin Saint, but I agree with him nearly always I don't fully agree with Everyone, but sometimes I agree with them fully

Is it Tom, Robert, Ann or Bill?

Just as a quick update today, and I have posted this elsewhare: A quick search of the tabloids and local papers today still shows NOTHING. An exclusive story like this and it is so ground breaking THEY DON'T DEEM TO REPORT IT. Why on the football league own website, they choose not to report it as they are reporting more bigger hitting and biting stories that have more impact that Cortese’s attack on them, such as: Bradford boss Peter Taylor knows the importance of making a good start to the season Former Stockport Manager and Current Ipswich coach Gary Ablett has been diagnosed with cancer (I’ll concede this one and wish him well) Match officials have been appointed for the first week of the season Mascots gear up for Daffodil Derby All hard hitting stuff, you’ll agree. Lets be honest since NC came here he has turned the club on its head. There are no more ITK’ers as he is very adept at information control, so if any claims were true, you would never know and neither would I. There is also a little thing in Info Control called dis-information. Release a story about upsetting the football league and 71 other memebers without any foundation Release a story about AP being sacked within a couple of weeks without any foundation Release a story about Lallana being sold and leaving without any foundation Release a story about upsetting the football league and 71 other memebers without any foundation Release a story about something contentious that IS WITH foundation, and people wont believe it until it is too late. in one foul swoop you have removed all the power of the ITKers becase you have fed them sheet and they have passed it on and now have no credibility. Also feed different pieces of sheet to individual people in the club, and in one foul swoop you have identified who is to be trusted and who isn't by what becomes available in the public eye. These people are then, not sacked, but turned and used to feed non-true information to the outside world. SFC's own 20 Commitee. And I now have to shut up as my former employers will either have me killed or prosecuted to the full weight of the law.

Or perhaps leave? No one forces them to stay, apart from economic factors, but that doesn't stop them from looking elsewhere. Also we have employment laws in this country and tribunals. Take it to them. I've posted this before, but I would have loved to work on the SMS when it was being built. It would have been the pinnacle of my career. I had the oportunity but i personnally didn't like the set up at Barr at the time, wasn't sure of the Agent, and it wasn't for me, so I walked away, no matter how much I loved the club. Truth to tell, I don't really beliuve there are any disgruntled employees at the club because NC, i believe it's juust the usual moaning at managment that happens anywhere. My boss is taking away the sandwhiches we have at the monthly meeting and we can buy shirts and trousers any more on the company. My firm MUST be in uproar. Or are we just happy that we have a job, after so many have been laid off

I still want to know what Rod Hull thought he was upto on that roof!!!!

Hey, piano tuners local #142 just confirmed that he is going no where.

I want to hear from sfcjmcsfc Numbers 1 to 15 and see what they have to say about this.

I'm simply making reference to the fact that Italy was the home of Fascism, which I think most have forgotton about. I thought you and I were on the same page, Alpine?

Here, here. I fully agree with this, and posted as such this morning. It's one thing to make comment and debate, it's another to make reference to a persons politics. Especially considering NC is Italian and the connetations that has.

Everything you refer to is rumour and innuendo. There isn't a piece of hard, tangible evidence in any of this. Just because you say it, it doesn't make it so. Just because you wish it, it doesn't make it so. This is called hearsay and has no legal relevance. I believe that Patred was told this, but whoever told him has lied to him and has another agenda. Was it you Dave/Stu? Yes, and most of them come from you, with no evidence. I don’t know any staff that are unhappy or that have been intimidated A quick search of the tabloids and local papers today still shows NOTHING. An exclusive story like this and it is so ground breaking THEY DON'T DEEM TO REPORT IT. Why on the football league own website, they choose not to report it as they are reporting more bigger hitting and biting stories that have more impact that Cortese’s attack on them, such as: Bradford boss Peter Taylor knows the importance of making a good start to the season Former Stockport Manager and Current Ipswich coach Gary Ablett has been diagnosed with cancer (I’ll concede this one and wish him well) Match officials have been appointed for the first week of the season Mascots gear up for Daffodil Derby All hard hitting stuff, you’ll agree. Lets be honest since NC came here he has turned the club on its head. There are no more ITK’ers as he is very adept at information control, so if your claims were true, and I do doubt them, you would never know and neither would I. Sorry, but I have to say this. What a load of old tosh. All of it, with out foundation. You’re building your house on sand, I’m afraid Dave. Time for another name change. But please keep posting. I admire your tenacity and I honour your right to post, and I would defend that with my life.

Yes and I also understand it is made out of a pork product.

""They came first for the Communists, and they didn't take me even though i was a Communist. Then they came for for the trade unionists, and they didn't take me even though i was a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and they didn't take me even though i was a Jew. Then they still haven't come for me and I'm now wondering what's wrong with me." Apologies if I have paraphrased. The above was re-written by Jasper Linder based on his fathers experiences with Mordechai Anelewicz and the polish uprising. His point? There are more things going on in the world than what you percieve. And just because you choose not to speak out, it doesn't mean others are not, and are not willing to. And in future isn't it a bit wrong to compare Nicola Corteze and the treatment of one individual, according to HIM, with the Nazi regieme and the death of 2 miilion jews, gypsies,disabled and communists.

Oh, Tim not you? Please not you? You are always quite upbeat and less cynical than most, with a level head. if you are a litte bit afeared for the coming game, what chance the rest of us. I bet i'll find Alpine full of confidence. I think we'll be fine. Unlike most seasons we already have a team in place and raring to go. Please try and be a little bit more full of good cheer And COYS