Vancouver Saint

This. We played really well and took the game to them that first half - unlucky not to be level at least. Tella playing better than I've ever seen him, Redmond a handful when he has confidence and takes his man on, KWP good...others doing their job including Forster. More of the same please.

What is going on - why so few posts? Is there a social media ban from Saints fans protesting our appalling 2021 form that I've missed? Great Telegraph article about why we've been so bad...taking our foot off the high press pedal (as we know injury and tiredness) plus worst goalkeepers in the league (both equally bad and need replacing according to stats). Hard to predict how this game will go. Either we go down to 10 men after 10 minutes as is our wont and it's a rout that inspires Fulham to a four-game winning spree (stranger things have happened and, after all, we are Saints) - or, we play with some real spirit against a deflated Liverpool team and win 2-0! Draw not impossible either...So that covers every possibility then. I would like to see Jankewitz play - enough of whatever punishment or issues there are with him and Ralph/the team. We need more drive and grit in midfield.

Unfortunately, as a result of the Utd game postponement - this becomes the game they cannot afford to lose if they want to stay in the hunt for Champions League football next season (wheras if they'd lost or drawn on Saturday they'd already be stuffed and heading to a nothing season). So they will come out all guns blazing I reckon. If we can survive until half-time at 0-0 or better there's a chance we might just rattle them and sneak a result. Don't think it's going to happen, but can always wish...

OMG - watched this without knowing the score after the game had finished...so nearly fast-forwarded after the red card...told myself I'd do that after the inevitable Leicester goal. So...watched it all through doing what we were probably all doing, not getting my hopes up - even into the last minute of extra time. So happy we took a point. A fantastic performance from Salisu and Walker-Peters, JWP and Armstrong too, Adams and Redmond worked their socks off, McCarthy earned his place... ...Now to get that ridiculous red card rescinded. Leon Osman, the tosser reckons Vardy would have got to the ball before McCarthy and other Leicester massage therapists on the panel agreed with him!

The only way I can see us winning this is if our team take the recent SF loss to Leicester personally and actually show some fight on the pitch that they want to win the game more. I missed the Spurs game but gather we were good in the first half...then did our normal disappearing trick second half. I am actually glad Ings and Bertrand are out. Bertie has been a good servant but his time has come (I look at Matt Targett at Villa and think that was a short-sighted decision to let him go to keep Bertrand). Ings looks like he's been looking outwards for several weeks now. So a chance to get others in to stake their claim before the end of the season.

Missed the game. Saw the highlights. So predictable. Seriously, when will we not lose a game of football? I have been a huge Ralph supporter forever, but seriously, it can't go on like this. 36 points is not enough I don't think. I reckon we need at least another win to be safe...looks like the Fulham game may well decide our fate and theirs.

This. Shame to lose a game of tight margins to a crappy goal like that - but then we need to get a shot on target to score. We did not play that badly, Ralph made the right subs - I understand the disappointment and frustration but let's get some perspective here and stop abusing the team, the manager and each other. Let's beat Tottenham and finish the season strongly.

I'm with you Ottowa - bloody annoying - any joy with a livestream?

Any streams please? Bloody DAZN doesn't cover the FA Cup and we get bloody curling before football in Canada - doh!

Shockingly bad. Shocking. 11 defeats out of last 14. We've conceded 3 goals or more 10 times this season - did I hear that right? The way we were 'not up' for that game from the outset was enough to seriously question if Ralph has it in him to motivate this team - or build a defence. Starting with the goalkeeper - neither Foster or McCarthy are in the top 80% of Premier League goalies IMO.

Yup. Atrocious first half. Heads not in the game from the first minute - given enough chances to wake up and still no reaction. Sorry, but just effortless nothingness - Redmond has been good last couple of games but he makes no effort to winn high balls. Foster should have paused before kicking long to let our two defenders push up...but any sort of challenge or jump from Redmond could have put their defenders header off that led to their first goal. Bednarek terrible - backing off every time. Call the changes at half time Ralph - send a message to us supporters that this is not acceptable!

Good call.

So happy with that result - that was Saints season in a game in reverse - so bad first 28 mins (although unlucky to have that early penalty against us) - then brilliant after Armstrong's goal...then back to nervy 'defending' in the last 10 minutes. Noon start means 4.00am in Vancouver - went through the same emotions as most of us after going 0-2 down but something told me not to fast-forward and was rewarded for watching it through. We really did deserve to win that on chances created, shots and shots on target.

Respect your choice but disagree. Also think it's not a moot debate...we played with freedom and some attacking flair against Bournemouth - and abject against Newcastle, Brighton and others. Don't get me wrong - I'd LOVE to see us win the cup - I still remember exactly where I was when we won in 1976 (playing cricket for the school at an away game against Loretto and listening to the game on a smuggled radio...getting strange looks for screaming when Bobby Stokes scored)...so I don't undervalue it. Neither do I underestimate our situation in the league. I reckon we'll need at least another 6 points, possibly 7 or 8. We have the worst form in the division. Fulham are in form and look like getting out of trouble. Newcastle have a habit of waking up when they need to. Burnley looked like Brazil against Everton - and West Brom looked 500% better than us today vs Chelsea. So where are we getting our points? Would you really swap a (let's face it) a rank-outside chance of winning a Cup Final for our Premier League security? 90 minutes at Wembley (be there anyway for the semi-final, dilutes it) vs a drop to the Championship and potential obscurity for years to come? I wouldn't.

So JWP in or not? I would definitely take 3 points here over an FA Cup result if we were forced to choose - I said that when we played Wolves twice in a row.

Thank you - got it - perfect timing! Great goal Djenepo...and Redmond pass

Any other livestreams? Can't get the others to work...

I don't care about the FA Cup - even if we win we that game we won't win the Cup - a part of me wants us to lose so there can be no confusion that premier league survival is the only priority we have for this season and we have time to do it. I reckon we will need 38 or 39 points to stay up. That abysmal performance today - really all we had to do was not lose and we had no fight, no mettle - and our bottom-of-the-league form suggests the 5 or 6 points we need are far, far from guaranteed. Sheffield and West Brom are down. Fulham are in form and look good to pick up wins - I'm sure folks have noticed how well Harrison Reed and Lemina are playing for Scott Parker (can we recall Lemina btw?) Brighton have been getting less points than they deserved for a while now and deserved their points today. Burnley were brilliant last game and have way too much grit vs us. Newcastle are now my hope for slumping...jeez how significant is that pathetic performance against 9 men and the Danny Ings miss off the inside of the post now?!

TERRIBLE! If there's an opposite of 'Up for it' that was it. We were second to everything, slow, ponderous, totally second-best to everything. For such a crucial game I just do not get it. So frustrating to watch. Any of those people who were saying not so long ago they'd rather beat Wolves in the Cup than have the three points next game feel different now? If we play like that I cannot see us getting another point. We are in serious danger of going down this season.

Can we be the ones to stop Man city's winning run?

Gotta win, simple as that. No first half or second half psychology - full on effort for 97+ minutes, whatever it takes. Foster in goal. Rest Redmond. Such a shame Romeu is out for this - needed his grit to combat grit. Time for Ings to find the net again, Adams to do the same, Armstrong to show his class, JWP to get free kick opportunities, KWP to be fit and play, Salisu to find the beast in himself, Vest to get that headed goal and keep them out, Bednarek to score and get some confidence back...any one of our youth team to step up and finally prove their credentials. 0-4 to the Saints! Gotta dream. Getting really bored with this losing lark.

Missed the last 20 minutes which sounds like it was the best part of the game for us, but the truth is Ralph said it - this is not the same team that we had in the first half of the season that did so well...three youngsters and a bench of Academy players. The pivotal miss for us is KWP for me. I thought he was out for months, so what have I missed about people saying they hope he's playing Saturday? Not only does he have pace to cover back at RB, but he also provides attacking options that create chances for the front two, whoever they are. Suddenly we've lost both an attacking and a defensive strength. Bertrand is well past his prime. Bednerak is an okay CB and a terrible RB. None of our Academy players have convinced me they're good enough for PL status. We can fill in at DM, but not at RB or LB. I don't rate Valery, but what were they smoking when they let him go - if ever there was a time for him to be there to prove himself this is it. Crazy decision. Voikins too. We have to go back to basics and get a defence that knows how to defend. Today - Armstrong tops, Djenepo really played hard for the shirt and out of position at the end, JWP solid, Foster looked sharp - not his fault for the well-taken goal. The rest...meh...Salisu needs a complete mindset re-set...grow a pair and start bossing the game, Redmond - just learn how to not give up possession, not to give stupid niggardly fouls away, how to shoot on target and come back when you can do that, Adams, it's more than brute body strength it's anticipation and having a shot, Ings...where have you gone? come back please. Everybody should spend an entire training session shooting the ball into an empty net just to remember what it feels like for the ball to go into the net again!

You might be right Austsaint - but I share Raging Bull's sentiments and may just spare myself the pain - think SNSUN may have the solution, watch the first half end 0-0 or worse, then turn off and get the result later. I don't think I've ever been as pessimistic or cynical about our chances of winning a game of football - I didn't used to be like this. Covid or a run of 1 point out of 24 and a VAR dice that only rolls one way? Trying to leave on a positive vibe...maybe this is the game we play even more crap than usual and everything goes our way...win with a wrong-call VAR penalty in the 93rd minute... OMMMM

Any masochists actually going to watch this?

Shaking head shaking head. I've invested too much emotional energy into this Saints side. I get what Ralph was trying to do saving up the firepower for the second half but the minute we let that first goal in (crap missed tackle Vestergard and no save from McCarthy) that plan was done. 1 point out of the last 24 on offer. Gotta realise we are relegation form and heading into that scrap. This was the game we had to win - or at least not lose. Fail big time.