Mellis Not Coming Back

[Noodles34]

http://www.tribalfootball.com/mellis-staying-chelsea-after-southampton-recall-556541

 

oh well, never mind, hardly lived up to the original hype.

[The9]

Useful additional info, but the fact he left at all was a pretty good indicator that he wouldn't be returning. Nice that we gave him his League debut, not so nice it was away to Swindon...

[Saint_Mabes]

Did anyone else actually quite rate Mellis like myself? Wasn't a world beater but think he was quite handy as a more attacking option from midfield.

[Glasgow_Saint]

He's useless - if he was any good he'd have looked amazing in L1. He didnt!

[Danny]

Did anyone else actually quite rate Mellis like myself? Wasn't a world beater but think he was quite handy as a more attacking option from midfield.

 

I did. Thought he was a useful option to have.

[sandwichsaint]

He's useless - if he was any good he'd have looked amazing in L1. He didnt!

 

Have you seen a game this year?

 

Do you know anything about football?

 

Do you troll on here all day to get reactions like this one?

 

Very few players look 'amazing' in Lge 1, for the very simple reason that it is the third tier of organised league football and if they were 'that' good they would be playing in the second or even the first tier.

 

Mellis looked exactly what he was: a young Premier Lge 'club' player, as opposed to a Premier league 'squad' player, sent out on loan to gain experience. I doubt he will break through at Chelsk though they will no doubt keep hold of him while their transfer future is uncertain; he will assuredly go on to have a solid pro career somewhere in the top two divisions (a la Baird/Surman).

 

He was far from 'useless', only idiots would have expected him to be 'amazing' in his first dozen pro games.

 

Remind me Glasgow, which Lge 1 club did Wayne Rooney go to on loan to when he was a similar age?

[Panda]

He's useless - if he was any good he'd have looked amazing in L1. He didnt!

 

That's what I like about your posts you are always so positive (about your own opinions). I won't list the things I don't like, I don't have time.

[Glasgow_Saint]

Have you seen a game this year?

 

Do you know anything about football?

 

Do you troll on here all day to get reactions like this one?

 

Very few players look 'amazing' in Lge 1, for the very simple reason that it is the third tier of organised league football and if they were 'that' good they would be playing in the second or even the first tier.

 

Mellis looked exactly what he was: a young Premier Lge 'club' player, as opposed to a Premier league 'squad' player, sent out on loan to gain experience. I doubt he will break through at Chelsk though they will no doubt keep hold of him while their transfer future is uncertain; he will assuredly go on to have a solid pro career somewhere in the top two divisions (a la Baird/Surman).

 

He was far from 'useless', only idiots would have expected him to be 'amazing' in his first dozen pro games.

 

Remind me Glasgow, which Lge 1 club did Wayne Rooney go to on loan to when he was a similar age?

 

Wayne didn’t go on loan and if he did (even at 16) he would have looked a different class in L1!

 

I have a talent for spotting ability and Mellis doesn’t have enough.

[sandwichsaint]

Wayne didn’t go on loan and if he did (even at 16) he would have looked a different class in L1!

 

I have a talent for spotting ability and Mellis doesn’t have enough.

 

 

Whooossshhh! (You couldn't make it up could you!)

 

I'm sure AP hangs on your every post: have you offered your talent-spotting skills to the club yet? Just out of interest, what doesn't Mellis have enough of?, and what sort of future do you foresee for him?

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

I have a talent for spotting ability

 

That's called 'grooming' where I come from...

[del boy]

The good news however is that this dissapointment is more than compensated for by the return of A Pulis

[Glasgow_Saint]

Whooossshhh! (You couldn't make it up could you!)

 

I'm sure AP hangs on your every post: have you offered your talent-spotting skills to the club yet? Just out of interest, what doesn't Mellis have enough of?, and what sort of future do you foresee for him?

 

Mellis will end up an average player in the lower leagues.

[Andyb1]

Wayne didn’t go on loan and if he did (even at 16) he would have looked a different class in L1!

 

I have a talent for spotting ability and Mellis doesn’t have enough.

 

Tw*t. You obviously have zero talent spotting ability, probably coupled with a lack of ability generally.

[Glasgow_Saint]

Tw*t. You obviously have zero talent spotting ability, probably coupled with a lack of ability generally.

 

If you have something to say, please do it without insulting me or others.

 

Ta

 

xx

[Under Weststand]

Have to say I wasn't overly impressed in the 3 games I've seen him in, so not to disappointed to see him go. I think he has some talent there but still has a way to go yet, & we need the finished article at the moment. Would rather we went back to Chelski for Jack Cork who's just returned from Coventry, probably out of our reach at the moment, but who knows?

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

If you have something to say, please do it without insulting me or others.

 

Ta

 

xx

 

I reckon you are the antithesis to 19C.

[Junior Mullet]

He was not good enough for us. His decision making in particular was woeful and that's a key attribute for any attacking midfielder.

 

Also not impressed by his lack of enthusiasm during the warm-ups before matches - even whe nhe played - he looked disinterested.

 

He'll probably end up with a div 1 or CCC club as an average player - glad it looks like being away from Saints.

 

If Chelsea rate him so highly I wonder how highly they would rate Lallana who is by far the better player, regardless of age.

[Chez]

Absolutely woeful start to his career especially at Huddersfield. I thought he looked very good once Pardew worked out that he's a Frank Lamptard type of player that looks best in a free role down the middle of midfield making lots of runs into the box. He had the pace and energy to do a lot of closing down as well and in the Bristol Rovers and Gillingham (I think) games I thought he was excellent. We have missed that pace closing oponents down ever since.

 

The call up for England cam at just the wrong time and b the time he had returned we had moed to 4-4-2 and there was no room for him. Shame.

[AndyNorthernSaints]

Mellis will end up an average player in the lower leagues.

 

Why don't you answer the question. Have you ever seen Mellis play?

[Saint Fan CaM]

Err, what new on this? Never expected him back and didn't want him back. Not good enough for our team.

[oggiee]

Have you seen a game this year?

 

Do you know anything about football?

 

Do you troll on here all day to get reactions like this one?

 

Very few players look 'amazing' in Lge 1, for the very simple reason that it is the third tier of organised league football and if they were 'that' good they would be playing in the second or even the first tier.

 

Mellis looked exactly what he was: a young Premier Lge 'club' player, as opposed to a Premier league 'squad' player, sent out on loan to gain experience. I doubt he will break through at Chelsk though they will no doubt keep hold of him while their transfer future is uncertain; he will assuredly go on to have a solid pro career somewhere in the top two divisions (a la Baird/Surman).

 

He was far from 'useless', only idiots would have expected him to be 'amazing' in his first dozen pro games.

 

Remind me Glasgow, which Lge 1 club did Wayne Rooney go to on loan to when he was a similar age?

 

+1

Thought he was useful, had a good little run in the first team but was unlucky to go away with the U19's at the time he did.

[Hopkins]

Glasgow Saint. I'm assuming you don't get too many games seeing as you live in Glasgow. Infact looking at previous posts you don't so let me point something out to you that you have yet to realise....

 

Your opinion is not valid in anyway and therefore you are on a level par as a poster with Alpine. Not only is your opinion worthless and based mainly on radio reports but its retarded.

 

Jacob Mellis is one of the most highly rated kids at Chelsea by there fans and by there management, I'd rather base my own opinion and views on a player by the games that I watch (Every home game) and witness him playing in than your retarded opinions based on other peoples match reports. Not that I want to have any kind of football discussion with somebody who doesn't understand nor witness the football matches in question but just before Mellis went to play (and score in every game fwiw) for England U19's but he had started a couple of games before and along with Morgan and Hammond he had been looking awesome. The 3 of them complimented each other well and the touch and movement was very good between the 3 of them. By the time he had come back from England duty we'd moved to play 442 and he found it hard to get into a team ahead of Morgan and Hammond, both of whom were playing superb and couldn't be dropped.

 

His loan may not have worked out the way people may have hoped/expected but its not down to his lack of ability more of the unfrotunate facts that Morgan and Hammond are playing well and keeping fit.

 

So do please stfu.

[Glasgow_Saint]

Glasgow Saint. I'm assuming you don't get too many games seeing as you live in Glasgow. Infact looking at previous posts you don't so let me point something out to you that you have yet to realise....

 

Your opinion is not valid in anyway and therefore you are on a level par as a poster with Alpine. Not only is your opinion worthless and based mainly on radio reports but its retarded.

 

Jacob Mellis is one of the most highly rated kids at Chelsea by there fans and by there management, I'd rather base my own opinion and views on a player by the games that I watch (Every home game) and witness him playing in than your retarded opinions based on other peoples match reports. Not that I want to have any kind of football discussion with somebody who doesn't understand nor witness the football matches in question but just before Mellis went to play (and score in every game fwiw) for England U19's but he had started a couple of games before and along with Morgan and Hammond he had been looking awesome. The 3 of them complimented each other well and the touch and movement was very good between the 3 of them. By the time he had come back from England duty we'd moved to play 442 and he found it hard to get into a team ahead of Morgan and Hammond, both of whom were playing superb and couldn't be dropped.

 

His loan may not have worked out the way people may have hoped/expected but its not down to his lack of ability more of the unfrotunate facts that Morgan and Hammond are playing well and keeping fit.

 

So do please stfu.

 

Ive seen 7 games this season so far - HTH

[nathan]

Glasgow Saint. I'm assuming you don't get too many games seeing as you live in Glasgow. Infact looking at previous posts you don't so let me point something out to you that you have yet to realise....

 

Your opinion is not valid in anyway and therefore you are on a level par as a poster with Alpine. Not only is your opinion worthless and based mainly on radio reports but its retarded.

 

Jacob Mellis is one of the most highly rated kids at Chelsea by there fans and by there management, I'd rather base my own opinion and views on a player by the games that I watch (Every home game) and witness him playing in than your retarded opinions based on other peoples match reports. Not that I want to have any kind of football discussion with somebody who doesn't understand nor witness the football matches in question but just before Mellis went to play (and score in every game fwiw) for England U19's but he had started a couple of games before and along with Morgan and Hammond he had been looking awesome. The 3 of them complimented each other well and the touch and movement was very good between the 3 of them. By the time he had come back from England duty we'd moved to play 442 and he found it hard to get into a team ahead of Morgan and Hammond, both of whom were playing superb and couldn't be dropped.

 

His loan may not have worked out the way people may have hoped/expected but its not down to his lack of ability more of the unfrotunate facts that Morgan and Hammond are playing well and keeping fit.

 

So do please stfu.

 

I presume you have some connection with Jacob Mellis? It comes across that way.

 

He has been woeful in the times I have seen him this year. I've been to every home game and 7 away games. It is difficult to understand if he either doesn't have the ability or doesn't have the application as he hasn't played enough, but either way he has been poor!

[Jimmy Gabriel's Halo]

Whilst Glagow Saint has opened a right can of worms with his controversial comments on Mellis I can see the point he was trying to make. If you cast your minds back a few years to when Defoe was on loan at AFCB he looked a class act, way too good for that division even at his young age, and it was obvious he was going to be a very good player. How many consecutive games did he score in ? I forget but was it around 15 ? It was always a big regret of mine that we didn't sign him when we had the chance and the combination of Defoe and Beattie would have done wonders for us.

[shurlock]

Absolutely woeful start to his career especially at Huddersfield. I thought he looked very good once Pardew worked out that he's a Frank Lamptard type of player that looks best in a free role down the middle of midfield making lots of runs into the box. He had the pace and energy to do a lot of closing down as well and in the Bristol Rovers and Gillingham (I think) games I thought he was excellent. We have missed that pace closing oponents down ever since.

 

The call up for England cam at just the wrong time and b the time he had returned we had moed to 4-4-2 and there was no room for him. Shame.

 

Spot on - dodgy at first but looked really good - could have had a hatful of goals from his breaking runs. Gave us the kind of movement in the middle that neither Schneiderlin or Hammond have provided. His international callup in which he showed he could finish combined with our run of form and Connolly's introduction meant that his subsequent appearances were stop-start. A shame. Think he'll go on to bigger things.

[mickyp]

like always i expect he will pop up and be amazing in the next few years just because he didnt reallt set the world a light here. thats what usually happens at saints lol Times are changing and hope we can become a good solid prem team in the mould of Everton in years to come

[Chez]

Spot on - dodgy at first but looked really good - could have had a hatful of goals from his breaking runs. Gave us the kind of movement in the middle that neither Schneiderlin or Hammond have provided. His international callup in which he showed he could finish combined with our run of form and Connolly's introduction meant that his subsequent appearances were stop-start. A shame. Think he'll go on to bigger things.

 

how one earth can we see this and yet there are posters on here (who claim to have been to the games) that see something completely the opposite? I'll back my opinion of a player ahead of just about anyone on here, but even I have to look twice when I see posts like "either way he has been poor", "Not good enough for our team" and "He's useless - if he was any good he'd have looked amazing in L1. He didnt!".

[Arizona]

like always i expect he will pop up and be amazing in the next few years just because he didnt reallt set the world a light here. thats what usually happens at saints lol Times are changing and hope we can become a good solid prem team in the mould of Everton in years to come

 

Not really true though. We let a few slip through the net, but that happens at every club. I can't think of any young players we've released that have gone on to be world beaters recently. Scott McDonnald is doing pretty well at Celtic, that's about as good as I can remember since Phillips and Wise some 20 odd years ago now.

 

Can't say I've seen all that much of Mellis to pass judgement. The only real spell was the Swindon game, when none of them showed up. Other than that I've only seen a few sub appearances and one other start, might have been Norwich in the cup, when he was average. Good luck to him anyway.

[Block 5]

Shame. Mellis is clearly a talent, I thought he looked sharp and added an element of threat.

I agree with the comments likening him to Fat Frank; attacking central midfielder.

I wish the lad well.

[funkymojo44]

typical football fans thinking they know all about football. There is no written rule suggesting that if a youth player doesn't look amazing in a league below the club he is at then he won't make it. Plenty of players have left high ranking clubs and gone on to have cracking careers - Kevin Phillips was told he had no future as a pro.

 

Arshavin took some time to develop in the Russian League and attract top clubs in 2007 approaching 26.

 

Managers/Coaches and Scouts get it wrong, so i'll kindly not write off a player based on someone posting on a forum lol

[sadoldgit]

Hope he does well. Few Prem players would excel in the 3rd division. Good luck to him.

[ottery st mary]

typical football fans thinking they know all about football. There is no written rule suggesting that if a youth player doesn't look amazing in a league below the club he is at then he won't make it. Plenty of players have left high ranking clubs and gone on to have cracking careers - Kevin Phillips was told he had no future as a pro.

 

Arshavin took some time to develop in the Russian League and attract top clubs in 2007 approaching 26.

 

Managers/Coaches and Scouts get it wrong, so i'll kindly not write off a player based on someone posting on a forum lol

 

Problem with Kevin Phillips when he was a youngster at the Dell....He was not a great Right Back and he had a dodgy knee for some reason...plus there were two very good young right backs who always overshadowed him..Dodd and Kenna...Kevin did not go to striker after returning home and playing striker for his local club in an emergency..he went on to score many goals in non league and was picked up again for a second bite of the cherry.

 

No one had spotted his potential as a striker in his earlier years.

 

This is a similar story to Malcolm McDonald who was a full back until being switched in an emergency to Centre Forward.....It happens sometimes...

 

I have suggested to Saints tyhat they should play Thomas as a Centre Forward.......Maybe not.

[docker-p]

Wayne didn’t go on loan and if he did (even at 16) he would have looked a different class in L1!

 

I have a talent for spotting ability and Mellis doesn’t have enough.

Got to agree with you Glasgow. I didn't think much of Mellis, and doubt whether he will be troubling too many Premiership opponents in the future.

[The9]

I thought Mellis might have developed with a few more games - he had an enthusiasm early on that was promising but also led to a few too many slightly overhit passes. He also turned his man nicely (albeit the same way every time), had some vision none of our other players had and made a few cutting runs with and without the ball to get through defences, but didn't look composed in finishing at all which made them a little pointless.

 

Not a patch on Jack Cork for Saints, certainly, but a more attacking player who will benefit from regular games to get to know what his teammates will do, which I don't think really happened at Saints.

[macthesaint]

Mellis looked a neat and tidy player.Cant say more than that really.

Jack Cork,Danny Guthrie and Chaplow are the loan players I've liked,they gave everything and looked as if they cared.

Richard Wright did a great job too,was he a loanee?