Form this season used for prediction for next?

[NickG]

Some have moaned about using differing periods of the season to give us a clue as to how we will do next season so thought would work out our form over the season as points per game.

 

To give you an idea as to how many points per game we would need for various positions currently;

1st 2.09

2nd 2.06

6th 1.78

7th 1.71

midtable 1.15.

 

over the last games we have achieved; (first figure the last so many games I have worked it out over, 2nd points per game)

1 1

2 2

3 1.67

4 2

5 1.8

6 1.67

7 1.43

8 1.63

9 1.44

10 1.60

11 1.73

12 1.83

13 1.92

14 1.86

15 1.73

16 1.69

17 1.76

18 1.83

19 1.89

20 1.95

21 1.86

22 1.82

23 1.87

24 1.83

25 1.80

26 1.77

27 1.74

28 1.68

29 1.62

30 1.60

 

so form, over the last 20 games shows we will be in the battle for automatic!

Edited 24 February, 2010 by NickG

[NickG]

my view - gaining points like a play off team still, rather than automatic promotion canidates.

[Wiltshire Saint]

I'm not sure about all them statistics, I just hope we can end every game 0-0. There's no reason for any team to concede a goal at any time, ever

[Thedelldays]

ah...is where nick uses his bullsh1t to baffle brains..

 

most of us look at the league table...12 this season

[Scudamore]

these stats threads really don't prove much.

 

all i do know is we really need to be having a strong finish over the last couple of months...

[NickG]

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Edited 24 February, 2010 by NickG

[dune]

[Thedelldays]

not very bright? stick to ones you understand

ones where stats are not cherry picked...

 

YOU are a WUM imo

[NickG]

 

sad, but true!

[NickG]

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Edited 24 February, 2010 by NickG

[Thedelldays]

cherry picked? whole season, as said bit complicated for you,

cant be arsed to read it nick...why do you flood the board with your crap

[NickG]

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Edited 24 February, 2010 by NickG

[Thedelldays]

do you mean flood?

 

get someone to read and help you with it

yes i did mean flood...my touch typing is not that brilliant..I am sorry..

[Ponty]

****'s sake, you two.

[dune]

This thread is looking like it could be a contender for Golden Post status.

[ALWAYS_SFC]

cant be arsed to read it nick...why do you flood the board with your crap

 

pot kettle black...

 

He is berated for his post and yet you and the other musketeers

complain we call your posts crap...lol

[saintkiptanui]

Shut up you gays.

[Junction 9]

Well I don't get it. We start off on minus 1 and it fluctuates from there.

Nowhere near promotion form. How do you even get minus points anyway? It's not like we'll have a points deduction next season.

[dune]

Well I don't get it. We start off on minus 1 and it fluctuates from there.

Nowhere near promotion form. How do you even get minus points anyway? It's not like we'll have a points deduction next season.

 

It's really quite simple, but i'll let Nick explain.

[Deano6]

Junction9 is right. Nick - you need to check these figures...I don't think we should be averaging negative points by this stage in the season.

[SFC Forever]

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[NickG]

Some have moaned about using differing periods of the season to give us a clue as to how we will do next season so thought would work out our form over the season as points per game.

 

To give you an idea as to how many points per game we would need for various positions currently;

1st 2.09

2nd 2.06

6th 1.78

7th 1.71

midtable 1.15.

 

over the last games we have achieved; (first figure the last so many games I have worked it out over, 2nd points per game)

1 1

2 2

3 1.67

4 2

5 1.8

6 1.67

7 1.43

8 1.63

9 1.44

10 1.60

11 1.73

12 1.83

13 1.92

14 1.86

15 1.73

16 1.69

17 1.76

18 1.83

19 1.89

20 1.95

21 1.86

22 1.82

23 1.87

24 1.83

25 1.80

26 1.77

27 1.74

28 1.68

29 1.62

30 1.60

 

so form, over the last 20 games shows we will be in the battle for automatic!

 

point being, this isn't being selective or cherry picking how recent we should look at form, as it includes the whole season and you can choose whether you think the whole season gives the best indication of how we will do next year without -10 (1.6 points per game so top half), last 20 games (1.95 so around automatic), etc

[Smirking_Saint]

A load of useless guff backed up by some powder puff bickering.

 

Cheers all

[NickG]

and your comment added....?

[Smirking_Saint]

About as much as this thread did, in fact perhaps a little more insight.

[NickG]

if it doesn't interest you, as it probably won't many,fair enough.

 

Just have more threads slagging off the club and posters, that makes a good forum

[alpine_saint]

A load of useless guff backed up by some powder puff bickering.

 

Cheers all

 

Aye its codswallop.

 

The only thing you can predict about Saints is that they will be unpredictable.

[dubai_phil]

Number 13 gets my vote. Are there any pics to go with it?

 

So, as I understand this, we are going to pick the number of matches that we play next season so we can get the best stats?

 

Haven't seen such dedication to debate about an excel spreadsheet since I left a multi-national - it's just like a regional sales meeting. Well boss there was an election/war/earthquake. Yes but what about the resuts? Was always the reply.

 

The argument doesn't NEED excel. The facts are conclusive. We had a points deduction, we had a bad start, we are drawing too many away games against teams, we have spent a lot of money.

 

The facts are irrlevant they cannot be changed, how they are interpreted is the crucial argument.

 

Are we having a good season - Yes

Are we having a season that is better than we hoped for in May/June - Yes

Are we having a season that is good enough to keep all fans happy - No

Are we having a season that is good enough for NC & ML? - How the FECK do we know? How do we know what their inner thinking is? How do we know that the PR statements are aimed at appeasing us or kicking AP's arse.

 

There is one plain fact that Nick's figures show

 

Nickg

To give you an idea as to how many points per game we would need for various positions currently;

1st 2.09

2nd 2.06

 

So to shoot down his own argument (well reasoned BTW) have we at ANY point this season ove ANY stretch of selected games acheved the points average levels needed to gain automatic promotion next season?

The answer is NO we have not at any time equalled or exceeded the points average needed.

 

Playoffs next season would be a massive failure and a massive lottery. I do not think for one minute the fans management or oners would think that level of performance a success next year.

 

This year - hell who cares, insh'allah we will make the play-offs now.

[NickG]

why is my own arguement?

 

Certain posters on here are looking for arguements for the sake of it.

 

Quite clearly we look like a play off team.

[dubai_phil]

why is my own arguement?

 

Certain posters on here are looking for arguements for the sake of it.

 

Quite clearly we look like a play off team.

 

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Hope that helps

[iansums]

why is my own arguement?

 

Certain posters on here are looking for arguements for the sake of it.

 

Quite clearly we look like a play off team.

 

Come on guys, we should be uniting against the common enemy!

[iansums]

I think the form from the beginning of this year gives us the best indication of how we'll do next season.

 

Seeing as we are looking at statistics, in the 8 games that Fonte has played we are unbeaten and have had 4 clean sheets and conceded just 4 goals.

 

I think that Fonte could possibly be our most crucial signing of all.

[Scummer]

I think the form from the beginning of this year gives us the best indication of how we'll do next season.

 

Seeing as we are looking at statistics, in the 8 games that Fonte has played we are unbeaten and have had 4 clean sheets and conceded just 4 goals.

 

I think that Fonte could possibly be our most crucial signing of all.

 

And most of those games were away from home.

[mikee]

Come on guys, we should be uniting against the common enemy!

 

WHat, the Judean People's Front?

[Kingsbridge Saint]

A few signings over the summer - a couple of months to 'gel' and we will be around the play off spots. A few scrappy 0-0 draws at the likes of Brentford and Exeter will follow and the automatics gone. Then Pardew goes. Then a new manager, a few signings in the window, a couple of months to gel..............

[Smirking_Saint]

The way we are not currently dealing with the smaller teams and the fact that we have only beaten 1 team out of the top 6 is pretty much a sad indicament to me.

 

If someone wishes to come and tell me why next year, in which we will have IMO 80% of the same team we have now (why would we have another spending spree ?), will be fundamentally different then go ahead ??

 

No about of statistical manipulation will pull the wool over my eyes, we are not performing well enough, and that needs to change sooner rather than later.

[iansums]

The way we are not currently dealing with the smaller teams and the fact that we have only beaten 1 team out of the top 6 is pretty much a sad indicament to me.

 

If someone wishes to come and tell me why next year, in which we will have IMO 80% of the same team we have now (why would we have another spending spree ?), will be fundamentally different then go ahead ??

 

No about of statistical manipulation will pull the wool over my eyes, we are not performing well enough, and that needs to change sooner rather than later.

 

I do very much agree with this point, but we are not far short.

[NickG]

The way we are not currently dealing with the smaller teams and the fact that we have only beaten 1 team out of the top 6 is pretty much a sad indicament to me.

 

If someone wishes to come and tell me why next year, in which we will have IMO 80% of the same team we have now (why would we have another spending spree ?), will be fundamentally different then go ahead ??

 

No about of statistical manipulation will pull the wool over my eyes, we are not performing well enough, and that needs to change sooner rather than later.

 

I agree, despite others trying to find an argument (or even trying to find a definition of one!)

 

This team is showing it is ready for play offs and needs to improve to show its ready for automatic promotion.

 

Hopefully by the end of the season the form will show we are getting the two points per game needed to fill us with confidence for next year.