SNSUN Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 Am I right in thinking the Charlton result put us mathmatically safe from relegation? Phew, that's a load off. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

trousers Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 If y = k, then y' = 0 The Derivative of a Constant is 0 If ƒ(x) = k for some constant k, then ƒ'(x) = 0 2. Power Rule If y = x", then y' = nxn-1 If ƒ is a differentiable function, and if ƒ(x) = x", then ƒ'(x) = nxn-1 for any real number n 3. Exponential Rule: If y = ex, then y' = ex 4. Logarithm Rule: If y = 1n|x|, then y' = 1/x 5. Constant Times a Function Rule: If y = kƒ, then y' = kf ' 6. Sum Rule If y = ƒ g, then y' = ƒ' g' 7. Product Rule If y = ƒg, then y' = ƒg' ƒ' g If ƒ and g are differentiable functions such that y = ƒ(x)g(x), then y' = ƒ(x)g' ƒ' (x)g(x) 8. Difference Rule If y = ƒ - g, then y' = ƒ' - g' 9. Quotient Rule To remember this formula: Simply remember that b comes before t in the alphabet Thus, the bottom function times the derivative of the top minus the top times the derivative of the bottom, all divided by the bottom squared! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

IamLeGod Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 If y = k, then y' = 0 The Derivative of a Constant is 0 If ƒ(x) = k for some constant k, then ƒ'(x) = 0 2. Power Rule If y = x", then y' = nxn-1 If ƒ is a differentiable function, and if ƒ(x) = x", then ƒ'(x) = nxn-1 for any real number n 3. Exponential Rule: If y = ex, then y' = ex 4. Logarithm Rule: If y = 1n|x|, then y' = 1/x 5. Constant Times a Function Rule: If y = kƒ, then y' = kf ' 6. Sum Rule If y = ƒ g, then y' = ƒ' g' 7. Product Rule If y = ƒg, then y' = ƒg' ƒ' g If ƒ and g are differentiable functions such that y = ƒ(x)g(x), then y' = ƒ(x)g' ƒ' (x)g(x) 8. Difference Rule If y = ƒ - g, then y' = ƒ' - g' 9. Quotient Rule To remember this formula: Simply remember that b comes before t in the alphabet Thus, the bottom function times the derivative of the top minus the top times the derivative of the bottom, all divided by the bottom squared! I feel queezy after reading that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

Ludwig Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 If y = k, then y' = 0 The Derivative of a Constant is 0 If ƒ(x) = k for some constant k, then ƒ'(x) = 0 2. Power Rule If y = x", then y' = nxn-1 If ƒ is a differentiable function, and if ƒ(x) = x", then ƒ'(x) = nxn-1 for any real number n 3. Exponential Rule: If y = ex, then y' = ex 4. Logarithm Rule: If y = 1n|x|, then y' = 1/x 5. Constant Times a Function Rule: If y = kƒ, then y' = kf ' 6. Sum Rule If y = ƒ g, then y' = ƒ' g' 7. Product Rule If y = ƒg, then y' = ƒg' ƒ' g If ƒ and g are differentiable functions such that y = ƒ(x)g(x), then y' = ƒ(x)g' ƒ' (x)g(x) 8. Difference Rule If y = ƒ - g, then y' = ƒ' - g' 9. Quotient Rule To remember this formula: Simply remember that b comes before t in the alphabet Thus, the bottom function times the derivative of the top minus the top times the derivative of the bottom, all divided by the bottom squared! That hasn't translated very well, you ought to be able to integrate this into your post effectively, fancy writing out (or copying) the 'rules' for that also? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

Toadhall Saint Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 If y = k, then y' = 0 The Derivative of a Constant is 0 If ƒ(x) = k for some constant k, then ƒ'(x) = 0 2. Power Rule If y = x", then y' = nxn-1 If ƒ is a differentiable function, and if ƒ(x) = x", then ƒ'(x) = nxn-1 for any real number n 3. Exponential Rule: If y = ex, then y' = ex 4. Logarithm Rule: If y = 1n|x|, then y' = 1/x 5. Constant Times a Function Rule: If y = kƒ, then y' = kf ' 6. Sum Rule If y = ƒ g, then y' = ƒ' g' 7. Product Rule If y = ƒg, then y' = ƒg' ƒ' g If ƒ and g are differentiable functions such that y = ƒ(x)g(x), then y' = ƒ(x)g' ƒ' (x)g(x) 8. Difference Rule If y = ƒ - g, then y' = ƒ' - g' 9. Quotient Rule To remember this formula: Simply remember that b comes before t in the alphabet Thus, the bottom function times the derivative of the top minus the top times the derivative of the bottom, all divided by the bottom squared! Thanks Trousers - so are we mathematically safe then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

SNSUN Posted 13 April, 2010 Author Share Posted 13 April, 2010 I feel queezy after reading that There are many things I don't understand in this world, the female mind, the attraction of Renee Zellwegger to movie makers, why I am a borderline alcoholic and have a healthy liver whereas my sister who's clean living has liver problems, why Magnums have got smaller, but that arithmetic actually started making sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

Ludwig Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 There are many things I don't understand in this world, the female mind, the attraction of Renee Zellwegger to movie makers, why I am a borderline alcoholic and have a healthy liver whereas my sister who's clean living has liver problems, why Magnums have got smaller, but that arithmetic actually started making sense. It wasn't arithmetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

SNSUN Posted 13 April, 2010 Author Share Posted 13 April, 2010 It wasn't arithmetic. I think I just may go with "everything doesn't make sense". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

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Matthew Le God Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 Saints would very likely been mathematically safe BEFORE the Charlton game. Yes, you look at the points the teams in the relegation zone can get, however that doesn't take into account the large number of teams between Saints and them. Those teams would have to play each other in the remaining games and so impossible for them all to overtake Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

SNSUN Posted 13 April, 2010 Author Share Posted 13 April, 2010 Saints would very likely been mathematically safe BEFORE the Charlton game. Yes, you look at the points the teams in the relegation zone can get, however that doesn't take into account the large number of teams between Saints and them. Those teams would have to play each other in the remaining games and so impossible for them all to overtake Saints. Ah true, hence why an Auto spot is out of question despite points-wise still being able to get there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

krissyboy31 Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 So, who has lost out on the sweepstake/poll thread from October? We can't now finish below 17th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

The9 Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 Ah true, hence why an Auto spot is out of question despite points-wise still being able to get there... Not sure there are that many games between the teams above us that two are *guaranteed* to get over 78, even with Norwich already there? Not that I think there's any chance of us coming 2nd... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

Saintandy666 Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 http://stats.football365.com/dom/ENG/D2/runin.html This might help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

Matthew Le God Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 http://stats.football365.com/dom/ENG/D2/runin.html This might help. Likely that doesn't take into account other teams results/fixtures against other teams when calculating highest and lowest possible finishes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

Saintandy666 Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 Likely that doesn't take into account other teams results/fixtures against other teams when calculating highest and lowest possible finishes. Probably, but there are lots of statty things on there to feed us all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

The9 Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 (edited) Likely that doesn't take into account other teams results/fixtures against other teams when calculating highest and lowest possible finishes. Very true, which is why I'm about to run it all through BBC predictor. Or maybe I'll just have a look at the top 6 v top 6 fixtures and see if it can (theoretically) be done. Edited 13 April, 2010 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

NickG Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 http://stats.football365.com/dom/ENG/D2/runin.html This might help. being a sad stato love that! Will change very quickly after next two games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

Foxstone Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 If y = k, then y' = 0 The Derivative of a Constant is 0 If ƒ(x) = k for some constant k, then ƒ'(x) = 0 2. Power Rule If y = x", then y' = nxn-1 If ƒ is a differentiable function, and if ƒ(x) = x", then ƒ'(x) = nxn-1 for any real number n 3. Exponential Rule: If y = ex, then y' = ex 4. Logarithm Rule: If y = 1n|x|, then y' = 1/x 5. Constant Times a Function Rule: If y = kƒ, then y' = kf ' 6. Sum Rule If y = ƒ g, then y' = ƒ' g' 7. Product Rule If y = ƒg, then y' = ƒg' ƒ' g If ƒ and g are differentiable functions such that y = ƒ(x)g(x), then y' = ƒ(x)g' ƒ' (x)g(x) 8. Difference Rule If y = ƒ - g, then y' = ƒ' - g' 9. Quotient Rule To remember this formula: Simply remember that b comes before t in the alphabet Thus, the bottom function times the derivative of the top minus the top times the derivative of the bottom, all divided by the bottom squared! Personally I prefer to count fingers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

Ludwig Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 To follow my previous post re top 6 fixtures against each other : Millwall are on 78, Swindon on 77, they have to play each other, ergo we can't come top 2, because by virtue of that match at least one of them goes over 78 pts. Highest finish is 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

The9 Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 Very true, which is why I'm about to run it all through BBC predictor. Or maybe I'll just have a look at the top 6 v top 6 fixtures and see if it can (theoretically) be done. To follow my previous post re top 6 fixtures against each other : Millwall are on 78, Swindon on 77, they have to play each other, ergo we can't come top 2, because by virtue of that match at least one of them goes over 78 pts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

The9 Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 Highest finish is 3rd. Indeed, I only just looked at the fixtures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

Smirking_Saint Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 If y = k, then y' = 0 The Derivative of a Constant is 0 If ƒ(x) = k for some constant k, then ƒ'(x) = 0 2. Power Rule If y = x", then y' = nxn-1 If ƒ is a differentiable function, and if ƒ(x) = x", then ƒ'(x) = nxn-1 for any real number n 3. Exponential Rule: If y = ex, then y' = ex 4. Logarithm Rule: If y = 1n|x|, then y' = 1/x 5. Constant Times a Function Rule: If y = kƒ, then y' = kf ' 6. Sum Rule If y = ƒ g, then y' = ƒ' g' 7. Product Rule If y = ƒg, then y' = ƒg' ƒ' g If ƒ and g are differentiable functions such that y = ƒ(x)g(x), then y' = ƒ(x)g' ƒ' (x)g(x) 8. Difference Rule If y = ƒ - g, then y' = ƒ' - g' 9. Quotient Rule To remember this formula: Simply remember that b comes before t in the alphabet Thus, the bottom function times the derivative of the top minus the top times the derivative of the bottom, all divided by the bottom squared! Got anything with Laplace transforms ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

krissyboy31 Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 Highest finish is 3rd. Boo! Pardew out!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

tpbury Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 If y = k, then y' = 0 The Derivative of a Constant is 0 If ƒ(x) = k for some constant k, then ƒ'(x) = 0 2. Power Rule If y = x", then y' = nxn-1 If ƒ is a differentiable function, and if ƒ(x) = x", then ƒ'(x) = nxn-1 for any real number n 3. Exponential Rule: If y = ex, then y' = ex 4. Logarithm Rule: If y = 1n|x|, then y' = 1/x 5. Constant Times a Function Rule: If y = kƒ, then y' = kf ' 6. Sum Rule If y = ƒ g, then y' = ƒ' g' 7. Product Rule If y = ƒg, then y' = ƒg' ƒ' g If ƒ and g are differentiable functions such that y = ƒ(x)g(x), then y' = ƒ(x)g' ƒ' (x)g(x) 8. Difference Rule If y = ƒ - g, then y' = ƒ' - g' 9. Quotient Rule To remember this formula: Simply remember that b comes before t in the alphabet Thus, the bottom function times the derivative of the top minus the top times the derivative of the bottom, all divided by the bottom squared! Can you explain what the apostrophes mean, I'm thinking one is the derivative and two the double derivative. If that's the case, does that mean we have the deriivative of eff all chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

Smirking_Saint Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 There are many things I don't understand in this world, the female mind, the attraction of Renee Zellwegger to movie makers, why I am a borderline alcoholic and have a healthy liver whereas my sister who's clean living has liver problems, why Magnums have got smaller, but that arithmetic actually started making sense. Its not arithmetic, it's calculus. Can you explain what the apostrophes mean, I'm thinking one is the derivative and two the double derivative. If that's the case, does that mean we have the deriivative of eff all chance? The apostraphes mean the derivative of f, f being the function. I believe it's the legrange method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

trousers Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 Got anything with Laplace transforms ? Naturally... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

Smirking_Saint Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 Naturally... Wonderful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

John Boy Saint Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 Ooooooooo-eerrrrrrrr!! makes your head go round and round :smt119:smt073!!...............All very exciting though!!:smt031 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

SaintRobbie Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 Am I right in thinking the Charlton result put us mathmatically safe from relegation? Phew, that's a load off. :-) Mission Accomplished!.... with Johnston Paint Trophy brass knobs on!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...

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