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- The minimum wage

 

- 3,700 schools rebuilt or refurbished

 

- shortest NHS waiting times in history

 

- three million more operations a year

 

- over 44,000 more doctors

 

- 90,000 more nurses

 

- GPs open into the evenings and at weekends

 

- free cancer prescriptions

 

- a two-week maximum wait to see a cancer specialist

 

- over 100 new hospitals

 

- the Winter Fuel Allowance

 

- free TV licences and free bus passes for pensioners

 

- the Pension Credit

 

- the New Deal for the Unemployed

 

- full-time rights for part-time workers

 

- the Social Chapter

 

- record maternity pay

 

- the right to paternity leave

 

- the biggest programme of council house building for 20 years

 

- the Disability Discrimination Act

 

- the Racial and Religious Hatred act

 

- the Equalities Act

 

- the first black cabinet minister

 

- the first Muslim minister

 

- the first black woman minister to speak at the Commons despatch box

 

- civil partnerships, gay adoption, the repeal of Section 28

 

- devolution: a Scottish Parliament, a Welsh Assembly, a Mayor for London

 

- the transformation of our great cities including Leeds, Sheffield, Birmingham, Newcastle, Bristol, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Liverpool and Manchester

 

- the Human Rights Act

 

- crime down by a third

 

- the handgun ban

 

- domestic violence cut by two thirds and rape convictions up by half

 

- more police on the streets

 

- the world’s first ever Climate Change Act

 

- beating the Kyoto emissions targets

 

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- the tripling of overseas aid

 

- the cancelling of debt of the poorest countries

 

- the ban on cluster bombs

 

- peace in Northern Ireland

 

- Britain back in Europe’s mainstream

 

- free swimming for kids

 

- free museum entry

 

- the right to roam

 

- banning fox hunting

 

- the Olympics for London

 

- half a million children out of poverty

 

- extended schools

 

- 42,000 more teachers

 

- the best-ever exam results in schools

 

- Education Maintenance Allowances

 

- record numbers of students.

 

- a doubling of apprenticeships

 

- a Child Trust Fund for every newborn child

 

- Sure Start children’s centres

 

- free nursery places

 

- Child Tax Credits.

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Excellent post from the OP. Despite Iraq and despite the utter refusal of the right wing nut jobs to acknowledge the good Labour has done, the last 13 years have brought this country out of the hole that the Tories had put it in.

 

It looks however as though we are about to return to the dark ages. It's a sad day in British electoral history.

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Excellent post from the OP. Despite Iraq and despite the utter refusal of the right wing nut jobs to acknowledge the good Labour has done, the last 13 years have brought this country out of the hole that the Tories had put it in.

 

It looks however as though we are about to return to the dark ages. It's a sad day in British electoral history.

 

You clearly are reliant on the State to live your life.

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You clearly are reliant on the State to live your life.

Most teachers are, also nurses, doctors, policemen, and firemen. Oh, and social workers, home helps, physiotherapists, dentists, the armed forces, etc,etc,etc

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Tbf, I don't think Labour have done too badly. Perhaps we could've spent a little less and come out of the recession looking slightly less battered and bruised, but there's no arguing that the average quality of life in the UK now is far better now than 13 years ago. I seriously have my doubts that given 13 years, the Conservatives could improve the country like Labour have.

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1. Tony Blair led the country to war on the basis of a lie – the 45-minute dossier was a disgraceful manipulation of some very sketchy intelligence. More than 200 soldiers have been killed, a similar number grievously wounded, while tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians have lost their lives.

 

2. The suicide of Dr David Kelly after he had been exposed by Downing Stret as the source of leaks to the BBC about the soundness of weapons intelligence (see above). The most nauseating moment in this episode came courtesy of Alastair Campbell, an unelected Labour functionary, who summoned a press conference to crow over the findings of the Hutton inquiry into Kelly’s death which inexplicably decided it was all the BBC’s fault.

 

3. Tony Blair’s warmongering extended beyond Iraq – there was Kosvo, Sierra Leone, Afghanistan – but a common theme was that British forces were routinely expected to put their lives on the line with inadequate kit and equipment. Much of the responsibilty for that lies with Gordon Brown who, as Chancellor, just did not “get” the military.

 

4. Brown’s uncontested accession to the premiership – after years spent undermining Blair – revealed just how rotten Labour had become. This was more akin to the Politburo than a modern democratic party. The one consolation is that it has proved an unmitigated disaster for Labour.

 

5. While Chancellor, Brown perfected a whole armoury of tricks to obscure what he was actually doing – double and triple counting, endless re-announcements of the same policy, stealth taxes by the score. So intent was he on his smoke and mirrors games that he seemed not to notice he was sending the economy down the tubes.

 

6. Bernie Ecclestone’s £1 million donation to Labour was an early indicator that Labour’s moral compass was non-existent and that Blair’s claim to be a “pretty straight kind of guy” was to be taken with a sackful of salt.

 

7. Parliament under Labour has been utterly marginalised. Both Blair and Brown have treated the Commons with contempt and we now have the weakest (as well as most dishonest) legislature in memory.

 

8. Labour’s failure even to attempt to control immigration has led to profound changes in this country that people did not want. Yet any attempt to debate the issue was branded racist by Labour – until it finally dawned on them (far too late) that their own supporters were furious about the changing nature of their communities.

 

9. A spending binge without precedent in this country’s history has delivered the most paltry improvements in the public services. A great opportuntiy to modernise Britain has simply been frittered away.

 

10. Labour’s Big Brother intrusiveness into all aspects of our lives is without precedent outside communist or fascist regimes. A government that has trumpeted its commitment to human rights has systematically eroded them.

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Excellent post from the OP. Despite Iraq and despite the utter refusal of the right wing nut jobs to acknowledge the good Labour has done, the last 13 years have brought this country out of the hole that the Tories had put it in.

 

It looks however as though we are about to return to the dark ages. It's a sad day in British electoral history.

 

Yes we are, gone are the days of your leftie teachings, we going back to good old fashioned lessons about empire, and millitary and potato famines. The world as you know it ends tonight. I hope you got the bottle to use the cane cos them pesky kids are gonna have to either sit and learn of mr thorpie is gonna get em.

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Yes we are, gone are the days of your leftie teachings, we going back to good old fashioned lessons about empire, and millitary and potato famines. The world as you know it ends tonight. I hope you got the bottle to use the cane cos them pesky kids are gonna have to either sit and learn of mr thorpie is gonna get em.

 

Do you believe in hitting children then Stanley?

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Do you believe in hitting children then Stanley?

 

I do indeed. The more you hit them the faster they learn. None of this namby pamby sit or the naughty step for me. Children should be seen and not heard.

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no, that wouldn't do, foxes are ginger, the quarry must be ginger, it cannot be any other way.

In which case could you not start with Chris Evans, follow that with Anne Robinson, then possibly Prince Harry, ( mind you, his dad might come after you in his tank ).

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In which case could you not start with Chris Evans, follow that with Anne Robinson, then possibly Prince Harry, ( mind you, his dad might come after you in his tank ).

 

Anne Robinson, yeah she'd be good, thatd teach the spaggy bint for saying thousant instead of thousand.

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... that violence is a good way to solve a problem?

 

 

It is the only way. We didn't build an empire on written warnings, tribiunals, and unions. gruel and the stocks is what made this country greart.

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It is the only way. We didn't build an empire on written warnings, tribiunals, and unions. gruel and the stocks is what made this country greart.

 

And here was me thinking we built it on slaves, exploitation and gunpower...

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And here was me thinking we built it on slaves, exploitation and gunpower...

 

You se, you thought one, then you met me and told you hpw it rea;;y was, and like a human esca[ing the matrix you saw for the first rime. Join me my frwind, FREEEEEEEdom.

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I bought a new house, an awesome leather sofa, a 50" plasma, a blue ray player, Sky tv, a new car, many foreign holidays, a new kitchen and an iphone. I didnt have any of this stuff 13 years ago so my life is now much better. Unfortunately I didn't have my finances in order so cant afford the repayments on my credit agreements, or afford to pay my mortgage, so its all going to be taken by the bailiffs and i'm going to lose my house.

 

Different examples but same argument.

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The OP forgot to mention the most important thing

 

Bankrupted the Country!

 

Any idiot can go on a 12 year mega spending spree, throwing money they don't have at anything they fancy.......Now it's time to pay the bill!....ugh you cant afford it?.....oh dear......Good luck when the bailiffs start arriving at the door in the next few years.

 

Greece's problems are going to seem like bit of loose change when the bill for 12 years at Nanny's teat lands on the table....It well exceeded the income from Tax payers years ago, the rest was just debt.....add to that the fact the Nanny State has bred half a Nation of 'cant do's' and you're left with the whole debt burden falling on the shoulders of what is now a small minority.....I can't see many 'wealth generators' hang around for that either

 

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The OP forgot to mention the most important thing

 

Bankrupted the Country!

 

Any idiot can go on a 12 year mega spending spree, throwing money they don't have at anything they fancy.......Now it's time to pay the bill!....ugh you cant afford it?.....oh dear......Good luck when the bailiffs start arriving at the door in the next few years.

 

Greece's problems are going to seem like bit of loose change when the bill for 12 years at Nanny's teat lands on the table....It well exceeded the income from Tax payers years ago, the rest was just debt.....add to that the fact the Nanny State has bred half a Nation of 'cant do's' and you're left with the whole debt burden falling on the shoulders of what is now a small minority.....I can't see many 'wealth generators' hang around for that either

 

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Get back to building sand barriers to stem the flow of the oil slick.

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The OP forgot to mention the most important thing

 

Bankrupted the Country!

 

Any idiot can go on a 12 year mega spending spree, throwing money they don't have at anything they fancy.......Now it's time to pay the bill!....ugh you cant afford it?.....oh dear......Good luck when the bailiffs start arriving at the door in the next few years.

 

Greece's problems are going to seem like bit of loose change when the bill for 12 years at Nanny's teat lands on the table....It well exceeded the income from Tax payers years ago, the rest was just debt.....add to that the fact the Nanny State has bred half a Nation of 'cant do's' and you're left with the whole debt burden falling on the shoulders of what is now a small minority.....I can't see many 'wealth generators' hang around for that either

 

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Hey Bro, how y'all doin, me i'm as larry as a redkneck in a finger lickin chicken honky dixie jamboree. Yah been a long time peeeastin ya llonny leftty windmoyal lurvic dem o crartic goinger winger. What yah up to Geeeorgie?

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Hey Bro, how y'all doin, me i'm as larry as a redkneck in a finger lickin chicken honky dixie jamboree. Yah been a long time peeeastin ya llonny leftty windmoyal lurvic dem o crartic goinger winger. What yah up to Geeeorgie?

Nurse, NURSE.....come quick. Aliens have removed Stanley's brain!!!

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Yes we are, gone are the days of your leftie teachings, we going back to good old fashioned lessons about empire, and millitary and potato famines. The world as you know it ends tonight. I hope you got the bottle to use the cane cos them pesky kids are gonna have to either sit and learn of mr thorpie is gonna get em.

 

I would rather resign than carry out punishment like that on a child. I think you will find the majority of the teaching profession feels the same. I hope you're looking forward to nationwide teaching strikes dune et al because that is what is coming...

 

 

...By the way, no majority for the Tories after 13 years of this 'evil' New Labour? UNLUCKY!

 

P.S dune, we still teach about empire/the Irish potato famine etc.

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It's too early to say yet, as there appears to be another 50 seats to declare.

 

But if you're going to be argumentative, kindly refute the opinion I expressed that Labour got a bloody good kicking. If you can, which I doubt.

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It's too early to say yet, as there appears to be another 50 seats to declare.

 

But if you're going to be argumentative, kindly refute the opinion I expressed that Labour got a bloody good kicking. If you can, which I doubt.

 

No, we did suffer a beating, but without the Tories getting to 326, I don't really think you are in any position to gloat. The electorate still clearly feel the Tories are not up to the job: Potentially the least popular PM since Thatcher or even Chamberlain and STILL no clear majority?! Dear oh dear, it SHOULD have been a landside for your lot surely?!?

 

As a side note, why Brown didn't call this election when he was appointed is beyond me! Labour would probably have made gains and he would still have had another couple of years left with a workable majority.

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No, we did suffer a beating, but without the Tories getting to 326, I don't really think you are in any position to gloat. The electorate still clearly feel the Tories are not up to the job: Potentially the least popular PM since Thatcher or even Chamberlain and STILL no clear majority?! Dear oh dear, it SHOULD have been a landside for your lot surely?!?

 

As a side note, why Brown didn't call this election when he was appointed is beyond me! Labour would probably have made gains and he would still have had another couple of years left with a workable majority.

 

But I do feel like gloating, strange as it might seem to you. There wasn't a landslide because there was too high a mountain to climb, but if they take 100 seats from Labour, that is a really creditable showing. I have stated more than once that this election was a poisoned chalice to the victor. This is almost the ideal situation for the Conservatives. Labour got a bloody good kicking, the Lib/Dems didn't make any progress at all, despite the success of I agree with Nick in the debates. Brown is going to get the animosity of the electorate if he tries to cling to power by his fingernails, making a pact with the Lib/Dems. He is seen by all to be a busted flush, never elected as PM by the people and now rejected by them at the polls. Even if the Conservatives do a deal with the Lib/Dems or other parties, they can blame those others perhaps if they do not get the co-operation they need.

 

But I agree with you that if Brown had any sense he would have gone to the Country earlier. Good thing that he doesn't have any sense, eh?

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I would rather resign than carry out punishment like that on a child. I think you will find the majority of the teaching profession feels the same. I hope you're looking forward to nationwide teaching strikes dune et al because that is what is coming...

 

...By the way, no majority for the Tories after 13 years of this 'evil' New Labour? UNLUCKY!

 

P.S dune, we still teach about empire/the Irish potato famine etc.

 

And you're proud of that are you? Your lot were planning on strike anyway, a bloody disgrace. What sort of example is that for your pupils? When my bosss tells me what to do, I may disgaree, I may tell him why I disagree, but I damn well get on and do it because I know what will happen if I don't.

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I would rather resign than carry out punishment like that on a child. I think you will find the majority of the teaching profession feels the same. I hope you're looking forward to nationwide teaching strikes dune et al because that is what is coming...

 

 

Rubbish, I know a LOT of teachers, having been married to one for 10 years and with another one now (I don't learn!!) ... most of them would love to beat some of their horrible horrible, rude, obnoxious, moronic kids.

 

Also, I know for a fact the ones I know will be refusing to strike.

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The OP forgot to mention the most important thing

 

Bankrupted the Country!

 

Any idiot can go on a 12 year mega spending spree, throwing money they don't have at anything they fancy.......Now it's time to pay the bill!....ugh you cant afford it?.....oh dear......Good luck when the bailiffs start arriving at the door in the next few years.

 

Greece's problems are going to seem like bit of loose change when the bill for 12 years at Nanny's teat lands on the table....It well exceeded the income from Tax payers years ago, the rest was just debt.....add to that the fact the Nanny State has bred half a Nation of 'cant do's' and you're left with the whole debt burden falling on the shoulders of what is now a small minority.....I can't see many 'wealth generators' hang around for that either

 

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Global recession.

Key word being GLOBAL and it would have happened under a conservative/labour or whatever government was in charge. Of course there's the argument of "put money away for a rainy day" but would really the party who introduced the schemes that got England into that trouble have done that of course not.

I'm just glad John Denham won his seat here.

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And you're proud of that are you? Your lot were planning on strike anyway, a bloody disgrace. What sort of example is that for your pupils? When my bosss tells me what to do, I may disgaree, I may tell him why I disagree, but I damn well get on and do it because I know what will happen if I don't.

 

No of course I'm not proud of it! I don't want to do it but IMO we'll be left with little option!

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Rubbish, I know a LOT of teachers, having been married to one for 10 years and with another one now (I don't learn!!) ... most of them would love to beat some of their horrible horrible, rude, obnoxious, moronic kids.

 

Also, I know for a fact the ones I know will be refusing to strike.

 

If parents are happy for their children to be taught by people who could flip into being thugs at any moment then who am I to question their sanity? We are there to teach NOT issue out beatings on a whim.

 

May I also ask where your friends would suggest we measure out these punishments? During break/lunch/after school meetings/parents evenings/weekends?

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How can you criticise Peter Storrie et al and then praise Gordo and his chums for doing the same with the economy?

Spending money like water for the feelgood factor. Check.

Forgetting to keep some aside for the inevitable rainy day. Check.

Try and spend your way out of trouble when the money runs out. Check.

Blame everyone else. Check.

Administration... coming soon?

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If parents are happy for their children to be taught by people who could flip into being thugs at any moment then who am I to question their sanity? We are there to teach NOT issue out beatings on a whim.

 

May I also ask where your friends would suggest we measure out these punishments? During break/lunch/after school meetings/parents evenings/weekends?

 

If you're going to dress it up in that extreme way, that anybody who administers a smack to a naughty child is a thug :rolleyes:, then frankly I wonder what sort of teacher you are. Yes, you are there to teach and so what happens when troublesome pupils deliberately disrupt the classroom knowing full well that there is little that their teachers can apply in the way of sanctions?

 

Many generations of pupils went through their education when the headmaster administered six of the best outside his study. The vast majority would tell you that it did them no harm. My, how things have changed in society. Nowadays, if a teacher dared to chastise a child in that way, he would either find himself on an assault charge, or the brat's dad would storm into the school and assault the teacher.

 

If you do not believe in mild corporal punishment as a solution to these discipline problems, then tell us how you would address them?

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- The minimum wage

 

- 3,700 schools rebuilt or refurbished

 

- shortest NHS waiting times in history

 

- three million more operations a year

 

- over 44,000 more doctors

 

- 90,000 more nurses

 

- GPs open into the evenings and at weekends

 

- free cancer prescriptions

 

- a two-week maximum wait to see a cancer specialist

 

- over 100 new hospitals

 

- the Winter Fuel Allowance

 

- free TV licences and free bus passes for pensioners

 

- the Pension Credit

 

- the New Deal for the Unemployed

 

- full-time rights for part-time workers

 

- the Social Chapter

 

- record maternity pay

 

- the right to paternity leave

 

- the biggest programme of council house building for 20 years

 

- the Disability Discrimination Act

 

- the Racial and Religious Hatred act

 

- the Equalities Act

 

- the first black cabinet minister

 

- the first Muslim minister

 

- the first black woman minister to speak at the Commons despatch box

 

- civil partnerships, gay adoption, the repeal of Section 28

 

- devolution: a Scottish Parliament, a Welsh Assembly, a Mayor for London

 

- the transformation of our great cities including Leeds, Sheffield, Birmingham, Newcastle, Bristol, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Liverpool and Manchester

 

- the Human Rights Act

 

- crime down by a third

 

- the handgun ban

 

- domestic violence cut by two thirds and rape convictions up by half

 

- more police on the streets

 

- the world’s first ever Climate Change Act

 

- beating the Kyoto emissions targets

 

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- the tripling of overseas aid

 

- the cancelling of debt of the poorest countries

 

- the ban on cluster bombs

 

- peace in Northern Ireland

 

- Britain back in Europe’s mainstream

 

- free swimming for kids

 

- free museum entry

 

- the right to roam

 

- banning fox hunting

 

- the Olympics for London

 

- half a million children out of poverty

 

- extended schools

 

- 42,000 more teachers

 

- the best-ever exam results in schools

 

- Education Maintenance Allowances

 

- record numbers of students.

 

- a doubling of apprenticeships

 

- a Child Trust Fund for every newborn child

 

- Sure Start children’s centres

 

- free nursery places

 

- Child Tax Credits.

 

 

Whilst not Labour supporter these achivemnts are very comendable, sadly in life as in politics and football people are more often judged on their mistakes not their achivements.

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1. Tony Blair led the country to war on the basis of a lie – the 45-minute dossier was a disgraceful manipulation of some very sketchy intelligence. More than 200 soldiers have been killed, a similar number grievously wounded, while tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians have lost their lives.

 

2. The suicide of Dr David Kelly after he had been exposed by Downing Stret as the source of leaks to the BBC about the soundness of weapons intelligence (see above). The most nauseating moment in this episode came courtesy of Alastair Campbell, an unelected Labour functionary, who summoned a press conference to crow over the findings of the Hutton inquiry into Kelly’s death which inexplicably decided it was all the BBC’s fault.

 

3. Tony Blair’s warmongering extended beyond Iraq – there was Kosvo, Sierra Leone, Afghanistan – but a common theme was that British forces were routinely expected to put their lives on the line with inadequate kit and equipment. Much of the responsibilty for that lies with Gordon Brown who, as Chancellor, just did not “get” the military.

 

4. Brown’s uncontested accession to the premiership – after years spent undermining Blair – revealed just how rotten Labour had become. This was more akin to the Politburo than a modern democratic party. The one consolation is that it has proved an unmitigated disaster for Labour.

 

5. While Chancellor, Brown perfected a whole armoury of tricks to obscure what he was actually doing – double and triple counting, endless re-announcements of the same policy, stealth taxes by the score. So intent was he on his smoke and mirrors games that he seemed not to notice he was sending the economy down the tubes.

 

6. Bernie Ecclestone’s £1 million donation to Labour was an early indicator that Labour’s moral compass was non-existent and that Blair’s claim to be a “pretty straight kind of guy” was to be taken with a sackful of salt.

 

7. Parliament under Labour has been utterly marginalised. Both Blair and Brown have treated the Commons with contempt and we now have the weakest (as well as most dishonest) legislature in memory.

 

8. Labour’s failure even to attempt to control immigration has led to profound changes in this country that people did not want. Yet any attempt to debate the issue was branded racist by Labour – until it finally dawned on them (far too late) that their own supporters were furious about the changing nature of their communities.

 

9. A spending binge without precedent in this country’s history has delivered the most paltry improvements in the public services. A great opportuntiy to modernise Britain has simply been frittered away.

 

10. Labour’s Big Brother intrusiveness into all aspects of our lives is without precedent outside communist or fascist regimes. A government that has trumpeted its commitment to human rights has systematically eroded them.

 

Cant be ars*d to answer line by line but in a nutshell really should stop quoting the daily mail so accurately, like politicians they raely tell the truth.

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- The minimum wage

- 3,700 schools rebuilt or refurbished

- shortest NHS waiting times in history

- three million more operations a year

- over 44,000 more doctors

- 90,000 more nurses

- GPs open into the evenings and at weekends

- free cancer prescriptions

- a two-week maximum wait to see a cancer specialist

- over 100 new hospitals

- the Winter Fuel Allowance

- free TV licences and free bus passes for pensioners

- the Pension Credit

- the New Deal for the Unemployed

- full-time rights for part-time workers

- the Social Chapter

- record maternity pay

- the right to paternity leave

- the biggest programme of council house building for 20 years

- the Disability Discrimination Act

- the Racial and Religious Hatred act

- the Equalities Act

- the first black cabinet minister

- the first Muslim minister

- the first black woman minister to speak at the Commons despatch box

- civil partnerships, gay adoption, the repeal of Section 28

- devolution: a Scottish Parliament, a Welsh Assembly, a Mayor for London

- the transformation of our great cities including Leeds, Sheffield, Birmingham, Newcastle, Bristol, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Liverpool and Manchester

- the Human Rights Act

- crime down by a third

- the handgun ban

- domestic violence cut by two thirds and rape convictions up by half

- more police on the streets

- the world’s first ever Climate Change Act

- beating the Kyoto emissions targets

 

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- the tripling of overseas aid

- the cancelling of debt of the poorest countries

- the ban on cluster bombs

- peace in Northern Ireland

- Britain back in Europe’s mainstream

- free swimming for kids

- free museum entry

- the right to roam

- banning fox hunting

- the Olympics for London

- half a million children out of poverty

- extended schools

- 42,000 more teachers

- the best-ever exam results in schools

- Education Maintenance Allowances

- record numbers of students.

- a doubling of apprenticeships

- a Child Trust Fund for every newborn child

- Sure Start children’s centres

- free nursery places

- Child Tax Credits.

 

Brilliant cut and paste job. Where did you find this one-sided simplistic clap-trap? It would be easy to pull it apart over several of those claims, but I'm tired from staying up late and really can't be arsed.

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Brilliant cut and paste job. Where did you find this one-sided simplistic clap-trap? It would be easy to pull it apart over several of those claims, but I'm tired from staying up late and really can't be arsed.

 

So what if it's cut and pasted, thats what cut and paste is for. You can pick it to pieces later if you want.Also why is anything that anyone other than Tories post either naive, simplistic,deluded,or thick? It seems to me that you have some insecurities in that you can't reply without insulting people or their posts.

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No of course I'm not proud of it! I don't want to do it but IMO we'll be left with little option!

 

Little option, my arse!!

 

You wamted a Labour government which you get but when they introduce the SATS it's 'we don't like that, let's strike'. Now you're going to get massive cutbacks possibly in your salaries and so you'll have 'no option' but to strike.

 

Do you not realise that many in the private sector have voluntarily accepted pay cuts or 4-day weeks so they can retain their jobs.

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So what if it's cut and pasted, thats what cut and paste is for. You can pick it to pieces later if you want.Also why is anything that anyone other than Tories post either naive, simplistic,deluded,or thick? It seems to me that you have some insecurities in that you can't reply without insulting people or their posts.

 

This piece I called one-sided simplistic claptrap. It is so obviously taken from some Ra-Ra Labour publication.

 

As it wasn't written by you, why would you be offended by that?

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