JustMike Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 (edited) Ryan Smith, from millwall on a 3 month loan http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/?page_id=10693 Edited 3 October, 2008 by JustMike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 Could be a good loan but I do not understand why he has been loaned after only a short time with Millwall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 Can't say i have heard of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Bald_Si Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 Yes - I'm always intrigued when a club in a higher division loans someone from a lower division. I can only imagine he'll play a few games for us, or why bother loaning him? He's a winger, so clearly Jan rates him more highly than the likes of Gobern and White. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 good player, didnt he play for Derby for a bit? Very Lee Holmes, ie forgotten man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 This is getting ridiculous now signing all these players. Where are the defenders? If llyod james gets injured or matt mills then we are pretty screwed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 Hmm, hasn't even started a game for Millwall this season, came on as a sub in one match. Strange one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 3 October, 2008 Author Share Posted 3 October, 2008 good player, didnt he play for Derby for a bit? Very Lee Holmes, ie forgotten man yes he did play for Derby, he played against us when we drew 2-2 up there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 Agreed we should prob have signed some full backs but meh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintrich Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 A player with something to prove, could be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 yes he did play for Derby, he played against us when we drew 2-2 up there ahh i see you clicked the link, i did this having replied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 Loving the alliteration... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 Agreed we should prob have signed some full backs but meh Surely it is the attack which is the Main Problem we are not scoring enough goals and protecting the Defence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 He played for Millwall's reserves against our second string on Wednesday night, so someone obviously liked what they saw in that game. I'm also intrigued by the need for more midfielders when our need is certainly defensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 He played for Millwall's reserves against our second string on Wednesday night, so someone obviously liked what they saw in that game. I'm also intrigued by the need for more midfielders when our need is certainly defensively. Very true we do need defenders not more in midfield, is this a vote of no confidence in some of our younger players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 Played for Millwall in the Reserve game at Staplewood this week (mentioned at the foot of the Jaime White article). Must have impressed. However, if he's only in the Millwall Reserve team make you wonder how good he is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHsaintsfan Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 This is getting ridiculous now signing all these players. Where are the defenders? If llyod james gets injured or matt mills then we are pretty screwed I don't think Matt Mills getting injured will particularly affect us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 Surely it is the attack which is the Main Problem we are not scoring enough goals and protecting the Defence As I said we have zero cover at the back. We will have to make do with midfielders at the back should anyone get injured and we all know how that ended up last time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeckoSaint Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 Not knocking the kid, but described as a winger that can play upfront isn't exactly prolific: Prove me wrong nipper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDonkey Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 Someone to play left wing in place of Lee Holmes sounds ideal -I've given up on Skacel ever being picked and think Surman is stronger in the centre. I agree about cover at full back to a certain extent - but we have Cork to cover Lloyd James at right back and Surman to cover Jospeh Mills at left back so we're not completely out of options there. Of course if he turns out to be right winger then why!?!?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 I don't think Matt Mills getting injured will particularly affect us! Lol it's early and I'm posting on my phone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 Well I don't think Jan's signed any duffers yet, so I'm optimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 Not knocking the kid, but described as a winger that can play upfront isn't exactly prolific: Prove me wrong nipper Looks like Jade from Damage. I'd be more interested in his assist rate than scoring to be fair. If he can cross a ball then he's alright by me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 I've just asked an avid Millwall fan (yes, he goes to every home game...) what he thought of Ryan Smith and here's his reply: "Very skilful player but lightweight with a questionable attitude. He is also injury prone. Cannot get into our side. " Make of that what you will..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 Also consider the fact that he might just not fit into the system Millwall are playing this season, rather than him not being good enough. After all, they were happy to pay £150k for him last summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 Is he a left or a right winger? I can actually see the need for both sides. DMG is creating stuuf down the right occasionally but doesn't offer any protection to James (maybe that's why James looks average?) and on the left we have a gaping hole since Holmes got injured (although I hope Skacel will get a chance there). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 Looks a sensible signing. With the 1-2-1 up front, not having natural wide players causes problems the shape goes wrong as well as problems in getting the ball in the box as well as the whole covering back thing. DMG & BWP really aren't wingers so this seems cover while Holmes recovers. For a club who's finances are melting down we keep bringing more youngsters into the squad..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labibs Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 Why not give him a chance? I'd imagine that coming from Millwall in league 1, his wages will be tiny. I agree that Wotte must have liked the look of him during the reserve game. Get him here, have a look at him during training, see if Jan can get the best out of him, how he adapts to the system etc. He came through Arsenal's academy, so he must have shown some promise as a youngster. I'd much rather have a genuine winger on the pitch, then BWP or another striker playing wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South City Si Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 Seems to me Holmes is out until January so we got an extra winger, especially getting rid of Dyer. Makes perfect sense and hope he comes on and proves himself. I really like the idea that we will become a team known for giving good young players a chance to play good passing football experience. He probably isn't palying in the Milwall team as they want to play with older sloggers rather than with young fast players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 from Millwall fan- 'Has gone to Southampton on loan for 3 months and I dare say that he'll play very well and impress everyone at St Mary's and then hopefully they'll sign him permanently and then he'll be a wasted talent again. Maybe we can money out of the deal' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 I'll ask again, is he a right or a left winger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 I'll wait till I see at Conventry before I start passing judgement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 from Millwall fan- 'Has gone to Southampton on loan for 3 months and I dare say that he'll play very well and impress everyone at St Mary's and then hopefully they'll sign him permanently and then he'll be a wasted talent again. Maybe we can money out of the deal' Sounds like he's a bit of a 'Saga', plays well when he first goes somewhere and then drops off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 Sounds like he's a bit of a 'Saga', plays well when he first goes somewhere and then drops off. Well after the last few seasons of being more Saga holidays it all makes a refreshing change... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattressTester Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 Recall seeing him when he was at Leicester a few seasons ago, and thinking he looked handy and certainly dangerous. If I'm not wrong, it was the game we drew 0-0? For some reason, I remember him as a left-winger then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsmonkey Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 didnt he play for arsenal in the carling cup some years ago?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 I remember a few stories about him when he was at Arsenal. A fantastic talent, but Wenger thought he had a bad attitude and lacked the professionalism to succeed at Arsenal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 I remember a few stories about him when he was at Arsenal. A fantastic talent, but Wenger thought he had a bad attitude and lacked the professionalism to succeed at Arsenal I've just asked an avid Millwall fan (yes, he goes to every home game...) what he thought of Ryan Smith and here's his reply: "Very skilful player but lightweight with a questionable attitude. He is also injury prone. Cannot get into our side. " Make of that what you will..... Would seem to be consistent with what said Millwall fan thought....still, as people say, no point judging until we've seen him (on the TV highlights, obviously, given I "never go to a game") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDonkey Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 I'll ask again, is he a right or a left winger? After much googling he's a leftie! http://arsenal-mania.com/player/Ryan-Smith/39/profile.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkadill Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 This is getting ridiculous now signing all these players. Where are the defenders? If llyod james gets injured or matt mills then we are pretty screwed Yes "ridiculous" - how insane.......u r! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 I'll ask again, is he a right or a left winger? He plays on the wing. The right or maybe the left, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 Yes "ridiculous" - how insane.......u r! It's ridiculous signing so many midfielders and ignoring how thin we are at the back. You're entitled to your opinion but I would appreciate if you didn't make fun of mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Shot Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 Makes sense with Holmes out. Just means even less chance of seeing Skacel, which is disappointing. But on the bright side, less chance of BWP too. Don't agree about defence, I think they just need time and more protection. Cork is excellent and can play anyway, James isn't as bad as people make out, Hatch is still waiting for his chance, Mills looks decent, Surman can play there, Rudi could play there in emergency, and centrally Lancashire will be an excellent player, Thomas will be back by christmas, perry, svensson and wotton can all do a decent job too. Have been told by someone in a position to know, that despite the denials from the club, Skacel is on big appearance money, hence his non appearance thus far and the loan of this kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 After much googling he's a leftie! http://arsenal-mania.com/player/Ryan-Smith/39/profile.html I guess I gave up on the googling too soon. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 I remember a few stories about him when he was at Arsenal. A fantastic talent, but Wenger thought he had a bad attitude and lacked the professionalism to succeed at Arsenal Sounds like Jermaine Pennant...hopefully he plays like him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 Will they send him to Coventry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Shot Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 from Millwall fan- 'Has gone to Southampton on loan for 3 months and I dare say that he'll play very well and impress everyone at St Mary's and then hopefully they'll sign him permanently and then he'll be a wasted talent again. Maybe we can money out of the deal' A bit like what we said when Dyer went to Sheffield United. It is going to be strange come January when all our loanees return to their clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 A bit like what we said when Dyer went to Sheffield United. It is going to be strange come January when all our loanees return to their clubs. Although the initial loans are for 6 months it remains to be seen if they will actually return to their clubs. If Cork stays in the team I'd imagine Chelsea will be more then happy to let him stay here (unless a PL club would want to loan him). The same would go for most of the loans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDonkey Posted 3 October, 2008 Share Posted 3 October, 2008 I guess I gave up on the googling too soon. Thanks. Just found this as well (never quite trust fan sites ) http://www.thefa.com/TheFACup/TheFAYouthCup/NewsAndFeatures/Postings/2005/01/FAYC_4P_Arsenal2Barnet1.htm Smith, a left-winger with frightening skill, had clearly been identified by Preston as Arsenal’s most influential player and he seemed to be encircled by defenders whenever he had the ball. He was subjected to some rough treatment and he didn’t like that at all. After being bowled over about 30 yards out during a typical high-speed run towards Preston’s goal, he complained bitterly to the referee before curling over a free-kick that was nudged on into the net for the equaliser by the head of central defender Matthew Connolly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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