trousers Posted 29 October, 2008 Share Posted 29 October, 2008 (edited) I haven't got it in front of me so can't quote verbatim, but he was saying that whilst finances played a part in Stern's move to Bristol City he seemed to be saying that the DECIDING factor was Stern's ultimatum that he should be starting every game. I think Wilde needs to clarify this. If Stern said: "I should be playing regardless of form or fitness" then I think Wilde had every right (in the circumstances) to say "Sorry, no can do, bye bye". However, if Stern said: "I should be playing every game if I'm in form and fit" then, in my opinion, Wilde's piece in his programme notes is potentially misleading. Given our current dearth of "20 goals a season" strikers, why on earth wouldn't we want to play John every game if he is fit and in form? Surely John wouldn't have made the unconditional demands that Wilde was implying he made? Would he? Edited 29 October, 2008 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Posted 29 October, 2008 Share Posted 29 October, 2008 I don't believe it for a second. Wildean spin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 29 October, 2008 Share Posted 29 October, 2008 Interestingly, last Wed/Thurs JP on Radio Hampshire was asked who was his main penalty taker. Stern John was his answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 29 October, 2008 Share Posted 29 October, 2008 If Stern John was that desperate to play, should he not say, 'I should be starting each game if I am fit and available. And I understand what your problem is with my wage structure, so I am happy to take a wage cut/renogotiate my contract to allow this to happen'. Just my thoughts, but this would guarentee him what he wants, what we want, what Wilde wants, and what is foretold in prophecy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 29 October, 2008 Share Posted 29 October, 2008 When John had to endure the sight of McGoldrick having more chance of hitting the corner flag than the goal, I suspect that he was fully entitled to believe that he ought to have been chosen ahead of him if fit. If the real reason was that we couldn't afford to play him because of some clause that dictated an appearance fee, then it is best that the short-sighted, ignorant fools who run the club watch helplessly as he nets a bucket load of goals for one of our rivals, whilst our cheap youngsters attempt to learn how to score goals hopefully before we are relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 October, 2008 Share Posted 29 October, 2008 I haven't got it in front of me so can't quote verbatim, but he was saying that whilst finances played a part in Stern's move to Bristol City he seemed to be saying that the DECIDING factor was Stern's ultimatum that he should be starting every game. I think Wilde needs to clarify this. If Stern said: "I should be playing regardless of form or fitness" then I think Wilde had every right (in the circumstances) to say "Sorry, no can do, bye bye". However, if Stern said: "I should be playing every game if I'm in form and fit" then, in my opinion, Wilde's piece in his programme notes is potentially misleading. Given our current dearth of "20 goals a season" strikers, why on earth wouldn't we want to play John every game if he is fit and in form? Surely John wouldn't have made the unconditional demands that Wilde was implying he made? Would he? Isn't that what I said last week when we were arguing about the significance of the words offer and guarantee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 29 October, 2008 Share Posted 29 October, 2008 Presumably SJ did not give the same ultimatum to Gary Johnson, I see he only came on as sub after 60 minutes. This is clearly nonsense from Wilde. Even if SJ did make this ultimatum (and perhaps he had a point with McG getting picked ahead of him), Wilde could still have said, no and not sent him out on loan. Compete and utter ****** from Wilde IMHO. Thats why I dislike Wilde even more than I loathe Lowe, because Wilde cannot be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yate Saint Posted 29 October, 2008 Share Posted 29 October, 2008 All i know is that in the Bristol Evening Post Stern said he doesnt intend on coming back to Saints. Thing is he might not even play every game for City! They have Trundle, Maynard and Adebola already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John D Posted 29 October, 2008 Share Posted 29 October, 2008 rumour my dad heard at the ground last night was that John was keen to stay and offered to take a pay cut but only if he was assurred he would get a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 29 October, 2008 Share Posted 29 October, 2008 Boycott the club programme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 29 October, 2008 Share Posted 29 October, 2008 If Stern John was that desperate to play, should he not say, 'I should be starting each game if I am fit and available. And I understand what your problem is with my wage structure, so I am happy to take a wage cut/renogotiate my contract to allow this to happen'. Just my thoughts, but this would guarentee him what he wants, what we want, what Wilde wants, and what is foretold in prophecy. Would you do that in your job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumstead_Saint Posted 29 October, 2008 Share Posted 29 October, 2008 Choose who YOU believe. Wilde is a proven liar - see his comments on not working with Lowe again at any price for one of several examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 29 October, 2008 Share Posted 29 October, 2008 Would you do that in your job? I wouldn't, couldn't afford to, but it's happening up and down the country at the moment. Don't blame him though when he can get the cash elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 29 October, 2008 Share Posted 29 October, 2008 Not sure why everyone gets so worked up about Stern John - he's lazy adn he misses more chances than he takes. Many suggest that it was Stern John's 19 goals that saved us last season. I disagree with that by the way, but McGoldrick has 7 so far and if he continues to play everyweek (like Stern did last season) then he may well get 19 as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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