Bad Wolf Posted 8 June, 2013 Share Posted 8 June, 2013 This guy says so... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2337774/Is-proof-Virgin-Queen-imposter-drag-Shocking-new-theory-Elizabeth-I-unearthed-historic-manuscripts.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 8 June, 2013 Share Posted 8 June, 2013 This could be an instant classic thread!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 8 June, 2013 Share Posted 8 June, 2013 ... in her most famous speech, to her troops at Tilbury as the Spanish Armada approached, was cheered to the skies as she roared: ‘I have the heart and stomach of a king, and of a king of England, too. Umm ... if memory serves the full (not selectively edited by the Daily Mail) quote from good Queen Bess's famous 'Tillbury' speech is something like: "Although I have the body of a weak and feeble women, I have the heart and stomach of a king, and a king of England too" But apart from that small quibble this is one of the best conspiracy theories this site has seen in many a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpb Posted 8 June, 2013 Share Posted 8 June, 2013 It's not exactly a new theory, Bram Stoker (author of Dracula) also believed it over a century ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 8 June, 2013 Share Posted 8 June, 2013 Therefore, all those male suitors such as the Earls of Leicester & Essex and the Kings of Spain & Sweden were going to have a nasty surprise if they had ever struck lucky ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 8 June, 2013 Share Posted 8 June, 2013 (edited) There have been many stories down thru history that the real daughter of Anne Boleyn died before Elizabeth reached the throne. However, as a lover and expert on conspiracies, I just can't see a male becoming Elizabeth 1st. I do however think there was something not quite right and why so many of Elizabeth's suitors lost their head(Heehee) One thing can't be explained is that how could a woman. daughter of one of the most beautiful women in Europe and a handsome king end up being so ugly? An DNA test needs to be done, and all other royalty down thru history. Edited 8 June, 2013 by ART Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 8 June, 2013 Share Posted 8 June, 2013 One thing can't be explained is that how could a woman. daughter of one of the most beautiful women in Europe and a handsome king end up being so ugly? http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081028205758AAaEDdM ( Why did Queen Elizabeth cut her hair and dye her skin white? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpb Posted 8 June, 2013 Share Posted 8 June, 2013 The Bram Stoker theory ... http://www.elizabethfiles.com/the-bisley-boy/3255/ I haven't read the Daily mail story - it might be the same theory... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu0x Posted 9 June, 2013 Share Posted 9 June, 2013 One thing can't be explained is that how could a woman. daughter of one of the most beautiful women in Europe and a handsome king end up being so ugly? Have you seen Pitt and Jolie's children (the ones they actually produced rather than purchased)? They look like two bags of spanners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 9 June, 2013 Share Posted 9 June, 2013 The Mail article is very interesting and well worth reading. Covers the rumors from several sources including in Bram Stoker theory. I have been reflecting overnight and seeing young boys were commonly castrated within the Church to maintain their singing voices, perhaps the boy they are said to have procured got the same treatment. Certainly this theory isn't going to go away till they open the tomb in Westminster Abbey and take DNA samples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 9 June, 2013 Share Posted 9 June, 2013 http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081028205758AAaEDdM ( Why did Queen Elizabeth cut her hair and dye her skin white? ) Many thanks for the link but she was 28 when she hot the pox. The change over was supposed to have happened at the age of 15. Next they'll be saying Michael Jackson was her re-incarnation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 9 June, 2013 Share Posted 9 June, 2013 Many thanks for the link but she was 28 when she got the pox. The change over was supposed to have happened at the age of 15. The 'change over' never happened. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 9 June, 2013 Share Posted 9 June, 2013 The 'change over' never happened. HTH I agree. It's really ludicrous that he is suggesting it happened. At the same time it is always beneficial to work thru the possibilities that the advocator has come up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 9 June, 2013 Share Posted 9 June, 2013 I agree. It's really ludicrous that he is suggesting it happened. At the same time it is always beneficial to work thru the possibilities that the advocator has come up with. Doesn't he have a book to sell? 'Nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack rill Posted 9 June, 2013 Share Posted 9 June, 2013 Many thanks for the link but she was 28 when she hot the pox. The change over was supposed to have happened at the age of 15. Next they'll be saying Michael Jackson was her re-incarnation Now that would be a thriller! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 9 June, 2013 Share Posted 9 June, 2013 Good Queen Bess was a ladyboy? who knew she had it in her or out of her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 9 June, 2013 Share Posted 9 June, 2013 Just been watching "A Time Travellers Guide to Elizabethan England". The French Ambassador at the time commented on Elizabeth's very revealing dress which left no doubt that she was a woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 9 June, 2013 Share Posted 9 June, 2013 I detect the hand of Blackadder in there somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 10 June, 2013 Share Posted 10 June, 2013 Elizabeth ! is not the only intiguing Royal "theory" ................... I'm convinced that Prince Charles is a descendant of the F.A.Cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 10 June, 2013 Share Posted 10 June, 2013 Speaking on behalf of Pap and if this story is true . Then there should be a public enquiry funded by the tax payer . We the masses deserve to be told the truth . There are far too many conspiracies around . In Pap we trust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 10 June, 2013 Share Posted 10 June, 2013 Just been watching "A Time Travellers Guide to Elizabethan England". The French Ambassador at the time commented on Elizabeth's very revealing dress which left no doubt that she was a woman. Camel Toe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 10 June, 2013 Share Posted 10 June, 2013 Just been watching "A Time Travellers Guide to Elizabethan England". The French Ambassador at the time commented on Elizabeth's very revealing dress which left no doubt that she was a woman. All it does is confirm that even in Shakespeare's time breast implants were about as were willy boosters. It was the comments of the French Ambassador and shows the French have long been deceiving women for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 10 June, 2013 Share Posted 10 June, 2013 All sounds very Dan Brown to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 10 June, 2013 Share Posted 10 June, 2013 Speaking on behalf of Pap and if this story is true . Then there should be a public enquiry funded by the tax payer . We the masses deserve to be told the truth . There are far too many conspiracies around . In Pap we trust It's a very noble sentiment, Viking Warrior - but I require my representatives to have GCSE level English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 10 June, 2013 Share Posted 10 June, 2013 An early portrait lending additional support for the rumor Elizabeth was a man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 10 June, 2013 Share Posted 10 June, 2013 All it does is confirm that even in Shakespeare's time breast implants were about as were willy boosters. It was the comments of the French Ambassador and shows the French have long been deceiving women for a long time. I think all those failed marriages and the enormous cod-piece her dad enjoyed wearing is most suspicious - sure signs of repressed homosexuality if you ask me. Can I have a nice fat book deal too mister ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 11 June, 2013 Share Posted 11 June, 2013 An early portrait lending additional support for the rumor Elizabeth was a man That cannot be a portrait of Elizabeth. It is well known that she was a redhead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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