View From The Top Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 4 door version, diesel ideally. Around 3/4 years old. What say you guys? Value? Good? Problems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 120 or 118 ? Its the same engine, with different engine management. But it makes a huge difference. The 120 conifg is brilliant in terms of performance and consumption rate, the 118 is underwhelming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 Taking them on their own merits they are good vehicles, drive nicely, extremely well built, reliable with reasonable fuel economy. However, compared to their immediate rivals they are cramped, impractical, not especially comfortable and vastly overpriced. Had one as a loan vehicle a few years ago and was shocked at how little you would get for the money. If you really want one, i'm sure you will like it but I feel there are far better vehicles available for better money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 3 September, 2013 Author Share Posted 3 September, 2013 Taking them on their own merits they are good vehicles, drive nicely, extremely well built, reliable with reasonable fuel economy. However, compared to their immediate rivals they are cramped, impractical, not especially comfortable and vastly overpriced. Had one as a loan vehicle a few years ago and was shocked at how little you would get for the money. If you really want one, i'm sure you will like it but I feel there are far better vehicles available for better money. Thing is, I don't know what I really want! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 Thing is, I don't know what I really want! What are you needing/wanting from a car then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 3 September, 2013 Author Share Posted 3 September, 2013 What are you needing/wanting from a car then? 5 seats & the boot has got to be big enough for my nippers cricket gear and a set of spring stumps, that's the main thing now and be economical for runs down to Soton or if I use it for work. I currently drive a Saab 1.8 Vector TDI Estate but as we also have a 7 seater I'm not needing a big car in the way I did before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 5 seats & the boot has got to be big enough for my nippers cricket gear and a set of spring stumps, that's the main thing now and be economical for runs down to Soton or if I use it for work. I currently drive a Saab 1.8 Vector TDI Estate but as we also have a 7 seater I'm not needing a big car in the way I did before. Is it important to you to have a make with a bit of 'kudos?' (I'm trying to politely ask if you are a badge snob. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 4 door version, diesel ideally. Around 3/4 years old. What say you guys? Value? Good? Problems? Got a friend who has just sold his. Liked it but found it was too small to be practical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 Taking them on their own merits they are good vehicles, drive nicely, extremely well built, reliable with reasonable fuel economy. However, compared to their immediate rivals they are cramped, impractical, not especially comfortable and vastly overpriced. Had one as a loan vehicle a few years ago and was shocked at how little you would get for the money. If you really want one, i'm sure you will like it but I feel there are far better vehicles available for better money. completely agree with this , had one when my 3 series was in for service and although the RWD was nice, it was very expensive , plus I thought the rear visability was very poor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 3 September, 2013 Author Share Posted 3 September, 2013 Got a friend who has just sold his. Liked it but found it was too small to be practical. Seems to be the consensus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 3 September, 2013 Author Share Posted 3 September, 2013 Is it important to you to have a make with a bit of 'kudos?' (I'm trying to politely ask if you are a badge snob. ) I'm afraid I am. I know I shouldn't be, but I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 (edited) I'm afraid I am. I know I shouldn't be, but I am. bo*llocks to that mate, i went from a Saab 93 1.9 TDI Vector to a BMW 320D and i dont care what anyone says, teh BMW is the better car by a mile. Better build quailty, better drive,more comfortbale to drive (i do about 30k a year) as econiomical and much more reliable, done 20,000 in it so far and not so much as rattle. People say its just a brand and you pay for the name, whilst that might be true it's worth every penny. Edited 3 September, 2013 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 I'd go for a second hand 3 series instead of the 1 any day, lovely cars to drive. Only reason I got rid of mine was the servicing charges if done at a BMW garage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 I'd go for a second hand 3 series instead of the 1 any day, lovely cars to drive. Only reason I got rid of mine was the servicing charges if done at a BMW garage Yep. The three series is practical enough to live with day to day, the one series is not. Having said that, I prefered my old Mondeo to the three series. Even my current Passat is more then up to it but not quite as good as the ford IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 I'm afraid I am. I know I shouldn't be, but I am. Then get an Audi A3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 Yep. The three series is practical enough to live with day to day, the one series is not. Having said that, I prefered my old Mondeo to the three series. Even my current Passat is more then up to it but not quite as good as the ford IMO. Why am I not surprised you drove a mondeo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 Why am I not surprised you drove a mondeo. Explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 Explain. It suits your mongboard image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 It suits your mongboard image. As does the BMW with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 As does the BMW with you. I have this image of you driving round Coventry in you're mondeo wearing one of your football shirts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 I have this image of you driving round Coventry in you're mondeo wearing one of your football shirts. And proudly so! The screen printed Saints badge transfer is on delivery. I have an image of you driving around business estates with a boot full of paper samples. All while fuming at the Harrogate chavs who dared lean on your vehicle. I take it the Passat doesn't quite fit your ideal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 And proudly so! The screen printed Saints badge transfer is on delivery. I have an image of you driving around business estates with a boot full of paper samples. All while fuming at the Harrogate chavs who dared lean on your vehicle. I take it the Passat doesn't quite fit your ideal? There are no chavs in Harrogate Colin! Well there are a few but the council puts them all on one estate out of our way so we don't have to see them, its a bit like South Africa with the townships. You're not in Coventry now! Colin from Coventry in his football shirt and mondeo, probably some bland music like Coldplay on the stereo, it goes together like Rhubarb and custard. I doth mind Passats actually, had a golf a couple of years ago which I loved, but its BMW or Audi all the way for me now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 (edited) There are no chavs in Harrogate Colin! Well there are a few but the council puts them all on one estate out of our way so we don't have to see them, its a bit like South Africa with the townships. You're not in Coventry now! Colin from Coventry in his football shirt and mondeo, probably some bland music like Coldplay on the stereo, it goes together like Rhubarb and custard. I doth mind Passats actually, had a golf a couple of years ago which I loved, but its BMW or Audi all the way for me now. Coldplay, you've done it now! I'm actually insulted!!! Don't you worry I know all about Harrogate, the joy of Grandparents in Wetherby. They have a more pleasant kind of Chav in Harrogate, will always make sure their ferret cannot bite you before they liberate you of your phone/wallet. I don't mind Audi's or BMW's, would like one but frankly I have more important things to be spending the cash on. (e.g. removing that 'from' Coventry statement.) Edited 3 September, 2013 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 3 September, 2013 Share Posted 3 September, 2013 To go back on topic and to reiterate my recommendation to the OP. Audi A3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 4 September, 2013 Share Posted 4 September, 2013 To go back on topic and to reiterate my recommendation to the OP. Audi A3. An expensive VW Polo. Save money and buy a Polo. My recommendation would be a Seat Ibiza or Leon if you are going for that class. I'd drive an orange crate if it were fitted with the BMW 2 litre diesel engine - it really is the best engine on the planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 4 September, 2013 Share Posted 4 September, 2013 I had a diesel one as a loan car a long while ago. Very disappointing compared with my 528. Small, harsh, noisy overpriced. The early 5-series was an excellent car, best I've ever had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 4 September, 2013 Share Posted 4 September, 2013 An expensive VW Polo. Save money and buy a Polo. My recommendation would be a Seat Ibiza or Leon if you are going for that class. I'd drive an orange crate if it were fitted with the BMW 2 litre diesel engine - it really is the best engine on the planet. Even though the A3 is based on the Golf platform? (The Volkswagen 'Group A' platform, as is the Seat Leon, Seat Toledo, VW Touran, Audi TT and Skoda Octavia. The Audi model based on the Polo (PQ25) platform is the A1) A Golf would be a good choice in that sector, but if the badge is important (as it would appear to be for the OP) then Audi all the way, a much better choice then the 1 series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 4 September, 2013 Share Posted 4 September, 2013 Audi A3 over the One Series every time...not my assessment but a rep who worked for L'Oreal and covered around 35k a year...she asked for her old (115kmls) Audi back after the first week, then again after three months and eventually managed to swap with another rep who had an older A3. Both were 2lt diesels. Specifically she disliked the seating position, the visibility (she is only 5ft tall in fairness) and felt that the handling was 'flakey' compared with the Audi...economy wasn't an issue as it was fully funded. She's quite an aggressive driver who has driven several hundred thousand miles....hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 September, 2013 Share Posted 4 September, 2013 Audi A3 over the One Series every time...not my assessment but a rep who worked for L'Oreal and covered around 35k a year...she asked for her old (115kmls) Audi back after the first week, then again after three months and eventually managed to swap with another rep who had an older A3. Both were 2lt diesels. Specifically she disliked the seating position, the visibility (she is only 5ft tall in fairness) and felt that the handling was 'flakey' compared with the Audi...economy wasn't an issue as it was fully funded. She's quite an aggressive driver who has driven several hundred thousand miles....hope this helps. So its a hairdressers car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 6 September, 2013 Share Posted 6 September, 2013 Test drove a 1 series and a 3 tourer the other day and there's no comparison, 3 series every time plus the 1 series was a little too small. Still a very good car though and Audi are roughly the same price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 6 September, 2013 Share Posted 6 September, 2013 So its a hairdressers car? In Germany BMWs are butchers' cars. Men of importance drive Mercedes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 13 September, 2013 Share Posted 13 September, 2013 So its a hairdressers car? Well spotted.....as was the BMW:nod: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 13 September, 2013 Author Share Posted 13 September, 2013 Turned my attention to a Volvo C30 now. BMWs, despite them being excellent cars, just don't do it for me (M Series excluded). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 13 September, 2013 Share Posted 13 September, 2013 Turned my attention to a Volvo C30 now. BMWs, despite them being excellent cars, just don't do it for me (M Series excluded). Get a 320d mate, I think the only other car I'd consider buying is an A5 or an A4, (apart from a massarati or DB9 of course) a great car for the money and will last you for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 13 September, 2013 Share Posted 13 September, 2013 Turned my attention to a Volvo C30 now. BMWs, despite them being excellent cars, just don't do it for me (M Series excluded). All I will say is, the C30 is nearly is impractical as the 1 Series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 13 September, 2013 Author Share Posted 13 September, 2013 All I will say is, the C30 is nearly is impractical as the 1 Series. Not for me it isn't. 7 seater as back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 13 September, 2013 Share Posted 13 September, 2013 Not for me it isn't. 7 seater as back up. Good point well made, they are excellent vehicles all things considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 14 September, 2013 Share Posted 14 September, 2013 In Germany BMWs are butchers' cars. Men of importance drive Mercedes. Didn't realise taxi drivers were so important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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