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Carling Cup Seedings - Come on Wycombe and Port Vale?

Matthew Le God

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The 2nd Round draw takes place live on Sky Sports tonight, following the conclusion of the Wycombe Wanderers v Birmingham City tie, with an approximate time of 10pm (later if extra time and penalties are needed)


All 32 winners from last night's ties will be joined in the draw by the four victors in this evening's fixtures. And twelve Premier League sides will also enter the fray, will all clubs competing in Europe - bar Manchester City - given a bye into the third round.


The Football League has confirmed that tonight's draw will be seeded on last season's finishing positions in the league.


A pre-draw will determine whether the non-seeds will play at home or away, and all seeded teams will then be plucked out of the hat to make up the fixtures.

The line-up is as follows:-



Manchester City

Blackburn Rovers

West Ham United

Newcastle United


Wigan Athletic


Bolton Wanderers



Birmingham City (or Wycombe Wanderers)

Derby County

West Brom

Stoke City

Hull City

Bristol City

Crystal Palace



Ipswich Town

Sheffield United (or Port Vale)

Cardiff City




(Should Birmingham or Sheffield United be beaten tonight, Preston North End will become seeds. Should both Birmingham City and Sheffield United be beaten, Preston North End and Southampton will become seeds)



Preston North End


Coventry City or Aldershot

Leicester City

Colchester United

Swansea City

Nottingham Forest or Morecambe

Carlisle United

Leeds United

Brighton & HA

Oldham Athletic

Northampton Town

Huddersfield Town

Hartlepool United

Yeovil Town

Cheltenham Town

Crewe Alexandra

Luton Town

MK Dons


Rotherham United

Grimsby Town

Macclesfield Town

Notts County


Teams entering in round three are as follows:- Arsenal, Aston Villa, Chelsea, Everton, Liverpool, Manchester United, Portsmouth, Tottenham Hotspur.


So the question is; Do we want Sheff Utd/Brum to lose us to be a seed and play a small side or Saints to not be a seed and play a big club at St Marys for example and get more cash?

Edited by Matthew Le God
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It would make more sense, and not try to tinker with the draw to put all the names in a bag and draw like the FA cup. The top teams have enough advantage already. If the two top teams have to play each other, so what.

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Blimey ...that list of seeds vs non-seeds is a bit of a sobering shot in the arm for anyone who was still clinging forlornly onto the belief that we were still a 'big club'!


Goes on where you finished last season, not how big you are.

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Aye...but seeing that list doesn't make it any easier to digest :(


Now you have some idea how it feels to support Forest or Leeds :( Two times European Champions and 1 time runners-up, not seeded in 2nd round of England's second tier cup competition.

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This is the league cup, so why hand the advantage to the Premier league teams? It should be all into the hat and see what comes out.


True, also, most of the Premier teams don't really care that much about it. I liked the old Coca Cola way in which Div 2 and Div 3 teams played each other, with the Prem and Div 1 teams coming in during the 2nd round.

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