Ziggy Posted 5 June, 2014 Share Posted 5 June, 2014 I think Chambers is a great player. Not yet at Shaw's level but I am suitably impressed. I marvel at how good the kids are when they come through. Long may it continue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 5 June, 2014 Share Posted 5 June, 2014 Chambers will become the complete footballer and end up with 60+ England caps while Shaw will get over 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 5 June, 2014 Share Posted 5 June, 2014 I think part of his problem was that he struggled to keep Chambers out of the team. I think he would have had a better chance if he was starting every week. Woy mentioned he was on the radar last September when Jay Rickie & Lallana got called up. I know Milner wasn't a starter at City, but he has plenty of international experience (and to be fair, he has also been a member of 2 Premier League winning squads). I really don't think Milner is as bad as the kicking he gets, you know you're always going to get a decent shift out of him and he really isn't a fb. If he was to leave City, and was willing to take a wage cut, I'd happily have him at Saints. Glad you would be happy - easily pleased are we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 5 June, 2014 Share Posted 5 June, 2014 Milner for England has 40-odd caps, scored 1 goal with very few assists A good squad member but the number of caps he has is criminal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 5 June, 2014 Share Posted 5 June, 2014 Chambers is excellent. One of the good things about our academy is how we can turn out such physically mature yet able footballers. Shaw, Chambers, Gallagher. All within a short period. That Chambers could keep out Clyne is an absolute achievement. He has been linked to Arsenal for a reason, another season should see him flourish further and leave Clyne behind. Should he go though Clyne is a more then able premier league level right back. Comparing him to Shaw is wrong though, Shaw is a revelation, Chambers is not in the same league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 5 June, 2014 Share Posted 5 June, 2014 What a bonkers arguement...comparing one great Saints talent with another. Both have different attributes...we're fortunate to have both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sea Saint Posted 5 June, 2014 Share Posted 5 June, 2014 madness, a classic case of our best player is off so let's make out that one of our average players is actually better. You'll be telling us that Gallagher is better than Lambert next, Grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sentry Posted 5 June, 2014 Share Posted 5 June, 2014 When the time comes I reckon Chambers is our next centre back. Yup, def, made to be a CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Second Coming Posted 6 June, 2014 Author Share Posted 6 June, 2014 I wondered that as well, I asked him a while back but he did not reply. Not as poetic as I remember. Takeover embarrassment? Explain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Second Coming Posted 6 June, 2014 Author Share Posted 6 June, 2014 madness, a classic case of our best player is off so let's make out that one of our average players is actually better. You'll be telling us that Gallagher is better than Lambert next, Grow up. Thank you. Remind me to register with the thought police who govern what a poster really means... I would be disappointed to lose Shaw, just happen to think the gap between our full backs is not as vast as some clearly do. I'd love to see the analysis on which side has conceded most goals this year, for example? I've no idea personally. Of players we can afford to lose, though, Shaw would be a shame but not terminal. Any of Boruc, Lovren, Wanyama, Morgan would be disastrous. Our success this year was built on the first 12/13 games when we had the best defensive record in Europe (bar one club). Losing Lovren, Victor and Boruc cost us a European place, in my view. Lallana gets the headlines, but our defensive success was more impressive at the start and then end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Shaw's the best of the three though needs to work on his final ball, which very rarely amounts to anything, and he's been caught out of position (rather than just upfield) a few times, but he's improving with that. Clyne is very good going forward and gives cover at LB too, and tends to get foward without being caught out of position on the counter - but despite being the most athletic and probably quickest, is also the worst of the 3 positionally and most likely to make a control or clearance error. Chambers is a better defender than Clyne but not as quick in terms of pace or recovery, and is less attacking generally, and seems to work better in matches where we're not looking to overlap or attack as much. It's great to have the choice of all 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave Sir Robin Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Shaw is the next Gareth Bale Chambers is the next Wayne Bridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Shaw is amazing in direct duels with the opposing winger. His trademark move seems to be forcing/inviting the winger into making a move and then beating him for pace shielding the ball. Usually the winger barges into his back and gives a free kick. He is really concentrated in those crucial moments where he is the difference between a dangerous cross and a promising counter. This is the impression I have from the tv games but feel free to correct me if I'm off the mark with young Luke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 Shaw is the next Gareth Bale Chambers is the next Wayne Bridge Not entirely correct. Bale is actually the previous Shaw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambol2K9 Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 The good thing about this discussion is, they're both excellent so we're benefiting either way. I think Chambers has the potential to be top draw, as already mentioned by Marino, Chambers will eventually make the move to Center Back... that I am sure of. He reads the game better than Shaw IMHO & with his height & aerial presence he'd slot in well at the back. Although he'd being asked to play right back at the moment, so you can compare them from a full back perspective, I think both their attributes are quiet different That's interesting, I've never thought of that. I see him as fairly well rounded defensively and attacking wise, I think he's in the right position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 6 June, 2014 Share Posted 6 June, 2014 madness, a classic case of our best player is off so let's make out that one of our average players is actually better. You'll be telling us that Gallagher is better than Lambert next, Grow up. I don't think Chambers is in any way average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Second Coming Posted 7 June, 2014 Author Share Posted 7 June, 2014 I don't think Chambers is in any way average. Me neither. He is quick and mobile and better in the air than Shaw (possibly because of his height). I also think this final ball is better. I am starting to agree with the folks above who think he is a future Centre Back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 7 June, 2014 Share Posted 7 June, 2014 Yoshida played left back for Japan against Zambia yesterday for some reason....they must be a bit short on LBs as well, got yellow-carded.....Mayuka played as well, subbed on second half..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 7 June, 2014 Share Posted 7 June, 2014 Chambers is a right back. Shaws a left back - a rarer commodity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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