Terrorist Attacks - WARNING: CONTAINS DISTRESSING IMAGES

[hypochondriac]

2 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

That's fair enough - as you say I certainly am not saying she brought it on herself, but she had some utterly appalling opinions in my eyes - and I would say the same about Farage, Tice and Trump if they were murdered as well. I'm pretty sure I said the same about Charlie Kirk.

I think zack polanski is a cunt with some appaling policies. If he was horribly murdered and the first public reaction from someone I know was what a cunt he was then I'd think they were a bit of a prick to be honest. Like I said, I think social media has encouraged this sort of thing it's just quite depressing when someone just been horribly killed.

[Sir Ralph]

56 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Still waiting for you guys to explain why just because someone is dead they can't be a cunt.

It shouldn’t need an explanation - in tragedy in particular, you either have respect for people regardless of politics or you don’t. Ironic that you have tried to teach others lessons in empathy in the past.

Edited 4 hours ago by Sir Ralph

[Gloucester Saint]

40 minutes ago, moonraker said:

If she stuck to politics and not ethics and morales I would agree. I do not and will never condone murder, nothing can justify it.

 

Good post. The views about ethics and morals went way beyond political ideologies but she never deserved what happened to her, no way.

[Sir Ralph]

11 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Good post. The views about ethics and morals went way beyond political ideologies but she never deserved what happened to her, no way.

Politics are intrinsically linked to ethics and morales. Not a good post. You might disagree with her but she was a leading voice in the Conservative Party for many years. You may not agree with some her views but she was hardly seen as an extremist in normal society (the echo chamber here is not a good sample test). The bbc let her on strictly for goodness sake. 

Edited 3 hours ago by Sir Ralph

[Gloucester Saint]

If people want to go down the whataboutery route, then Hitler and the Holocaust is politics, so is Stalin and the purges. Pol Pot etc. The line has to be drawn somewhere.

I met Ann and liked her, but this view as one example was going to draw conflict. She was entitled to say it but it’s not part of normal or acceptable political discourse. Not in Europe, in America at the moment with the MAGA fanatics it would be. Neither does it excuse the appalling act of violence which killed her https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48491731

[iansums]

I can’t help thinking that Farmer is standing in for SOG who seems to have disappeared 😳

[Gloucester Saint]

I’ve met her, so my post will naturally be a bit more relevant to topic.

As I’ve posted before, I liked her when I met her, and some views I’d have had in common with her like animal rights (she was very anti fox hunting for example). Some of her views I agreed with on law and order as well (I’m more to the right on that than the average because of my background) but others I disagreed.

The views on LGBT, even as a happily married hetrosexual man were beyond reasonable debate though and even Farage admitted that. 

 

[trousers]

 

 

[hypochondriac]

1 minute ago, trousers said:

 

 

From a gay man no less. Ian Dale another notable very close friend. 

[trousers]

Edited 3 hours ago by trousers

[Sir Ralph]

4 minutes ago, trousers said:

Same happened after Charlie Kirk unfortunately

[Gloucester Saint]

I agree with the social media posts there. When I met her, she reminded me of family members I have - different views but a good heart behind it all which you never get with most politicians, or people these days.

The ghouls celebrating her death are vile, full stop. 

[hypochondriac]

9 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

I agree with the social media posts there. When I met her, she reminded me of family members I have - different views but a good heart behind it all which you never get with most politicians, or people these days.

The ghouls celebrating her death are vile, full stop. 

She reminded me of my great aunt. From another time really with some pretty objectionable views. One of the kindest and most dignified people you would ever meet. Definitely not a cunt.

[Sir Ralph]

 

[LuckyNumber7]

5 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

More white terrorism hidden on the BBC news page:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgl20x1ggpo

Two tier reporting from the Beeb again.

How is it hidden?