Surely we're not that far from having a decent team

[ExSt Peter Saint]

We are seriously lacking in depth, but with what we've got, there must be nearly a team of players good enough to compete at CCC level. A couple of quality additions and we could have a chance if we ditch this ridiculous coach and his addiction to a formation that doesn't work. Perhaps:

 

---------------------------Davis----------------------------

New RB----------Perry--------New CB--------------Skacel

Euell-------------Schneiderlin--Surman-------------Holmes

-----------------Saga---------Big goalscoring CF----------

 

Subs: Forecast, BWP, Lallana, young defender, young midfielder

 

Rudi would be better further forward, but I don't know how good this LB we've signed is. Euell is not ideal on the right, but I seem to remember he did ok out wide at the end of last season when NP got us bullying teams with strength and experience. If we had a decent RB who could overlap, it wouldn't matter so much, or if Dyer came back and started producing the form he is capable of.

Overall, we are a few quality additions away from being a team that should be able to compete at this level. What we need is a coach who knows how to get a team playing to win games.

[Iowsaintsfan]

so Baird at right back and Dailly at centre back job done!

[Give it to Ron]

That is the main issue I have with JP - even Sundance in a post last week finally saw the light.

We do have some good players and with a bit of tactical nous we would of won more than 1 game at home this season and not in the poop we are in now.

SB thought bringing in someone like Ian Dowie for a while may help - certainly Gorre hasn't been going on recent matches.

[saints_is_the_south]

so Baird at right back and Dailly at centre back job done!

 

& Harewood up top with Saga!

[Saint Garrett]

Sounds like a cracking shout to me, although i wouldnt have euell anywhere near the team, put smith mclaggon bwp there and we would have a decent team... 4-4-2!!!

[Gully]

4-4-2 at home and 4-5-1 away.

[saintjay77]

That is the main issue I have with JP - even Sundance in a post last week finally saw the light.

We do have some good players and with a bit of tactical nous we would of won more than 1 game at home this season and not in the poop we are in now.

SB thought bringing in someone like Ian Dowie for a while may help - certainly Gorre hasn't been going on recent matches.

 

I think Luck has had its fair share for taking an effect. Yesterday we looked quite good for the 1st 10 to 15 mins. Pressing hard and passing well. If we could play like that for 90+ mins I think we would be doing allot better. Our defence is so week though it only takes 2 mins of pressure on our penalty box and the whole team crumbles. Throw in some harsh decissions and the ball bouncing around to anyone but our players and the lads think the whole world is against them.

 

So JP is good enough to get them playing a certain style that could be good but so far he looks cak at getting the team to pick themselves up when things go against them. Someone like Dowie I think wouldnt settle for the team falling apart like it does and would be ideal for getting the team to work there arses off to make there own luck.

 

If we get Baird and Dailly we might get a bit more confidence about us which might help allot. We still need a striker that can score when all around him is falling to bits. Is Saga that striker?

[surrey1saint]

I think Luck has had its fair share for taking an effect. Yesterday we looked quite good for the 1st 10 to 15 mins. Pressing hard and passing well. If we could play like that for 90+ mins I think we would be doing allot better. Our defence is so week though it only takes 2 mins of pressure on our penalty box and the whole team crumbles. Throw in some harsh decissions and the ball bouncing around to anyone but our players and the lads think the whole world is against them.

 

So JP is good enough to get them playing a certain style that could be good but so far he looks cak at getting the team to pick themselves up when things go against them. Someone like Dowie I think wouldnt settle for the team falling apart like it does and would be ideal for getting the team to work there arses off to make there own luck.

 

If we get Baird and Dailly we might get a bit more confidence about us which might help allot. We still need a striker that can score when all around him is falling to bits. Is Saga that striker?

 

Good post ....I to think we need someone like Dowie,but can we afford him?

[West End Saint]

You have a point I think the vast majority would like to see 4 -4 -2 and a couple of additions could see us ok but they need to be quality players we must have a big physical dominant centre back and a goal scoring target man in the mould of a Hulse or Steve Howard type but younger and quicker and I cant see us splashing the cash to get them in and I cant see Wupert admitting deafet with Jan and his system.

 

When the chips are down like now you need expierenced Pro's with the character and bottle for a scrap and we havent got any at the moment

[ExSt Peter Saint]

Are you suggesting we get Dowie in as manager then?

[ottery st mary]

Realisation..Seeing the light in October/November..Agree, lets not look back, now is the time to gamble on those 3/4 players, whoever they be. Dailly, Harewood, Saga, Healy for example..The money has to be obtained from within and disposing of more of the rubbish loans. We still have a chance..Will Lowe let JP get on with it with the right aquisitions now, to-day.? Last chance these next3/4 games are vital...I think I said that in December..But it is definitely these next few games.

Lowey/Wildey PLEASE.

 

MIND YOU i WOULD PREFER THEY GOT SOME EXPERTS IN TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS.

[John B]

Good post ....I to think we need someone like Dowie,but can we afford him?

 

Are you sure Dowie has been sacked from lots of clubs?

 

 

He cant be that good

[ExSt Peter Saint]

If we carry on using the same system and the same players our rivals will be out of sight by the end of the month. Please someone stop this from happening.

 

People have posted loads of times that we have a rubbish squad and you can't polish a turd etc, but if you look at it, I really think we're only a couple of players and an effective manager away from being ok.

[S4INT]

Strikers back from loan (Saga situation (+ Rasiak would be even nicer)) + Swap one midfielder for a defender (Baird situation) + Get another experienced CB (Dailly situation)

I then think that we have a strong team, I think the current lot is close to being strong enough to stay up it's just that we make too many defensive errors and we don't have an out and out striker popping them in...

[aintforever]

We are seriously lacking in depth, but with what we've got, there must be nearly a team of players good enough to compete at CCC level. A couple of quality additions and we could have a chance if we ditch this ridiculous coach and his addiction to a formation that doesn't work. Perhaps:

 

---------------------------Davis----------------------------

New RB----------Perry--------New CB--------------Skacel

Euell-------------Schneiderlin--Surman-------------Holmes

-----------------Saga---------Big goalscoring CF----------

 

Subs: Forecast, BWP, Lallana, young defender, young midfielder

 

Rudi would be better further forward, but I don't know how good this LB we've signed is. Euell is not ideal on the right, but I seem to remember he did ok out wide at the end of last season when NP got us bullying teams with strength and experience. If we had a decent RB who could overlap, it wouldn't matter so much, or if Dyer came back and started producing the form he is capable of.

Overall, we are a few quality additions away from being a team that should be able to compete at this level. What we need is a coach who knows how to get a team playing to win games.

 

Totally agree, we do have the basis for a half decent side.

 

We need to get in a manager who know's the Championship, know's how to battle and can motivate these players plus get a couple of experienced players on loan.

 

Dowie fit's the bill perfectly IMO, if Lowe and Wilde had any brains they would finance the new manager out of their own pocket - the alternative is they will lose everything.

[forever a red and white]

no way would i wany dowie, would rather have hoddle.

 

Dowie has had minimul success and plays route one ****

[Lunatic Fridge]

If we carry on using the same system and the same players our rivals will be out of sight by the end of the month. Please someone stop this from happening.

 

People have posted loads of times that we have a rubbish squad and you can't polish a turd etc, but if you look at it, I really think we're only a couple of players and an effective manager away from being ok.

 

Just a couple of players and a new manager?? So where are we going to get those from - oh I forgot Lowe is going to put his hand in his pocket. Cr*p.

 

We are about 10 players and a new coach away from avoiding relegation. Im afraid its Div 1 with Lowe Disunited - unless we are rid of the disease that is the board very soon.

[krissyboy31]

We need to loan a few players with pace, especially if Dailly is coming in. I don't know what sort of pace Molyneux has but James for a full-back is sooo slow (Nani didn't have to get out of second gear to ease past him, yesterday).

 

A pacy right-back and a pacy centre-foward, along with an experienced centre-back. Then changing to 442 (at least at home) and becoming more direct, then we may just have a chance.

[Glasgow_Saint]

no way would i wany dowie, would rather have hoddle.

 

Dowie has had minimul success and plays route one ****

 

Route one is better than route none! We are going absolutely no where under the current regime!

[John B]

Totally agree, we do have the basis for a half decent side.

 

We need to get in a manager who know's the Championship, know's how to battle and can motivate these players plus get a couple of experienced players on loan.

 

Dowie fit's the bill perfectly IMO, if Lowe and Wilde had any brains they would finance the new manager out of their own pocket - the alternative is they will lose everything.

 

What actually do you mean knows the Championship

 

 

Scholari Ranieri etc surely did not know the Premiership

 

 

Keane at Sunderland did not know the Championship and I doubt whether Pearson knew the Championship or Div 1 either.

[Arizona]

Well, in Davis, Saganowski, Skacel, Surman, Lallana, Holmes and MS their is undoubted quality.

 

The trouble is, as Wright and Euell showed for most of last season, if you are carrying a couple of passengers in every match, it is going to hinder you a lot.

 

Last nights team was a million miles away from being a good side. I'm sorry but DMG, Lancashire, Gillett and Paterson just aren't up to it for me. Jame and Smith are hit and miss. Perry is quality, but just doesn't hve the legs to play every game.

 

We MUST NOT sell ANY of our decent player to have a chance of surviving and we MUST bring in a RB and two centre halves. Up front I think we can get away with it by playing Saga and BWP. However, if we rely on McGoalkick and Paterson we are going to struggle.

[ottery st mary]

What actually do you mean knows the Championship

 

 

Scholari Ranieri etc surely did not know the Premiership

 

 

Keane at Sunderland did not know the Championship and I doubt whether Pearson knew the Championship or Div 1 either.

 

Now you leave Pearson alone.

[John B]

Well, in Davis, Saganowski, Skacel, Surman, Lallana, Holmes and MS their is undoubted quality.

 

The trouble is, as Wright and Euell showed for most of last season, if you are carrying a couple of passengers in every match, it is going to hinder you a lot.

 

Last nights team was a million miles away from being a good side. I'm sorry but DMG, Lancashire, Gillett and Paterson just aren't up to it for me. Jame and Smith are hit and miss. Perry is quality, but just doesn't hve the legs to play every game.

 

We MUST NOT sell ANY of our decent player to have a chance of surviving and we MUST bring in a RB and two centre halves. Up front I think we can get away with it by playing Saga and BWP. However, if we rely on McGoalkick and Paterson we are going to struggle.

 

 

I would agree with your post but I think we are less than a million miles away from a good team maybe two years or so

[John B]

Now you leave Pearson alone.

 

What I was saying that Person performed OK without much knowledge of the Championship.

 

 

The main problem with JP is that he played at such a high standard and coached Dutch kids who are probably more technically gifted than ours.

[Arizona]

What I was saying that Person performed OK without much knowledge of the Championship.

 

 

The main problem with JP is that he played at such a high standard and coached Dutch kids who are probably more technically gifted than ours.

 

Noooooooooooooooooo he hasn't. Telstar? Helmand Province? These are not big clubs. Your talking Blue Square South standard here.

 

I think the problem is that Jan just isn't a very good manager. I admire his philosophy of attractive football and his honnest attitude, but his interviews and his teams just stink of a man way out of his depth.

 

Also, playing at a high level doesn't make you a good manager. Just as Kettering Town.

[Belgiansaint]

We are seriously lacking in depth, but with what we've got, there must be nearly a team of players good enough to compete at CCC level. A couple of quality additions and we could have a chance if we ditch this ridiculous coach and his addiction to a formation that doesn't work. Perhaps:

 

---------------------------Davis----------------------------

New RB----------Perry--------New CB--------------Skacel

Euell-------------Schneiderlin--Surman-------------Holmes

-----------------Saga---------Big goalscoring CF----------

 

Subs: Forecast, BWP, Lallana, young defender, young midfielder

 

Rudi would be better further forward, but I don't know how good this LB we've signed is. Euell is not ideal on the right, but I seem to remember he did ok out wide at the end of last season when NP got us bullying teams with strength and experience. If we had a decent RB who could overlap, it wouldn't matter so much, or if Dyer came back and started producing the form he is capable of.

Overall, we are a few quality additions away from being a team that should be able to compete at this level. What we need is a coach who knows how to get a team playing to win games.

 

 

I would tend to agree with you if you replace the word "new" by the word "experienced".

As for the manager / coach, I won't go into JP bashing but if he were to be sacked, I'd go for someone who, even at Div. 1 level, has an experience of winning he could pass on to the team. I stand to be corrected, but it seems to me Dowie has failed (owing to various circumstances) to do that at his previous clubs, however knowledgeable he may be.

[alpine_saint]

We are seriously lacking in depth, but with what we've got, there must be nearly a team of players good enough to compete at CCC level. A couple of quality additions and we could have a chance if we ditch this ridiculous coach and his addiction to a formation that doesn't work. Perhaps:

 

---------------------------Davis----------------------------

New RB----------Perry--------New CB--------------Skacel

Euell-------------Schneiderlin--Surman-------------Holmes

-----------------Saga---------Big goalscoring CF----------

 

Subs: Forecast, BWP, Lallana, young defender, young midfielder

 

Rudi would be better further forward, but I don't know how good this LB we've signed is. Euell is not ideal on the right, but I seem to remember he did ok out wide at the end of last season when NP got us bullying teams with strength and experience. If we had a decent RB who could overlap, it wouldn't matter so much, or if Dyer came back and started producing the form he is capable of.

Overall, we are a few quality additions away from being a team that should be able to compete at this level. What we need is a coach who knows how to get a team playing to win games.

 

Possibly, but that's only half the story. You do need some depth to cover injury and suspension, and they need to have competent direction..

[ExSt Peter Saint]

I know depth is preferable, but I'm talking about just having a decent first 11 that could win some games to begin with. It would be much easier to bring one or two younger ones in as replacements than have them starting every game in a losing team.

[Winchester Exile]

We are seriously lacking in depth, but with what we've got, there must be nearly a team of players good enough to compete at CCC level. A couple of quality additions and we could have a chance if we ditch this ridiculous coach and his addiction to a formation that doesn't work. Perhaps:

 

---------------------------Davis----------------------------

New RB----------Perry--------New CB--------------Skacel

Euell-------------Schneiderlin--Surman-------------Holmes

-----------------Saga---------Big goalscoring CF----------

 

Subs: Forecast, BWP, Lallana, young defender, young midfielder

 

Rudi would be better further forward, but I don't know how good this LB we've signed is. Euell is not ideal on the right, but I seem to remember he did ok out wide at the end of last season when NP got us bullying teams with strength and experience. If we had a decent RB who could overlap, it wouldn't matter so much, or if Dyer came back and started producing the form he is capable of.

Overall, we are a few quality additions away from being a team that should be able to compete at this level. What we need is a coach who knows how to get a team playing to win games.

I admire your positive attitude but for me your post just highlights how bad things are beacause:-

1) Even your line-up is minus 3 players;

2) We have no depth;

3) WE ARE SECOND FROM BOTTOM AND THEREFORE A MILLION MILES FROM "HAVING A DECENT TEAM".

 

Sorry but there are absolutely no postives around for us at the moment and if the situation both on the pitch and the board room stay the same then the same results will follow. Soemthings got to change .... and soon.

[offix]

Surely we're not that far from having a decent team

 

LOL!! No, not far really! Only about 15 or 16 talented players, 1 coach and 1 manager with a basic understanding of football away!

[John B]

Noooooooooooooooooo he hasn't. Telstar? Helmand Province? These are not big clubs. Your talking Blue Square South standard here.

 

I think the problem is that Jan just isn't a very good manager. I admire his philosophy of attractive football and his honnest attitude, but his interviews and his teams just stink of a man way out of his depth.

 

Also, playing at a high level doesn't make you a good manager. Just as Kettering Town.

 

Are all managers out of their depth when their teams are not winning

 

It is always easy to blame the manager/coach but perhaps the players are not up to Championship standard that is my thought

 

I just dont like the trend of sacking managers after only a few months in the job.

 

 

It took Ted Bates sometime to mould his team and then there was no requirement for such a large squad it does take sometime for teams to gel.

Edited 5 January, 2009 by John B

[offix]

Are all managers out of their depth when their teams are not winning

 

It is always easy to blame the manager/coach but perhaps the players are not up to Championship standard

 

I just dont like the trend of sacking managers after only a few months in the job

 

I agree, let's not fire him until we are nicely settled in, in League 1

[Arizona]

Are all managers out of their depth when their teams are not winning

 

It is always easy to blame the manager/coach but perhaps the players are not up to Championship standard that is my thought

 

I just dont like the trend of sacking managers after only a few months in the job.

 

 

It took Ted Bates sometime to mould his team and then there was no requirement for such a large squad it does take sometime for teams to gel.

 

Nope. But in this instance Jan is.

 

Our squad may be poor, but I don't think they are being at all well managed either.

 

I know it takes time to mould a team. However you can also spend as long as you want sticking to the same flawed system without achieving anything. Jan is doing the latter. We are IMO worse that we were in summer with pretty much the same group of players.

 

As for the transfer policy... Robertson, Pulis, Pekhart, Forecast, Gasmi, Smith. If these were Jan's transfers, then they are very poor ones and he should walk. If they aren't his transfers then he has an impossible job and should also walk.

[John B]

Nope. But in this instance Jan is.

 

Our squad may be poor, but I don't think they are being at all well managed either.

 

I know it takes time to mould a team. However you can also spend as long as you want sticking to the same flawed system without achieving anything. Jan is doing the latter. We are IMO worse that we were in summer with pretty much the same group of players.

 

As for the transfer policy... Robertson, Pulis, Pekhart, Forecast, Gasmi, Smith. If these were Jan's transfers, then they are very poor ones and he should walk. If they aren't his transfers then he has an impossible job and should also walk.

 

I thought things were going to be alright at the End of December but if January is as bad relegation will be a formality.

 

 

Hindsight is a wonerful thing but Pekhart had been scoring regularly for Spurs Reserves.

 

Robertson was used to get rid of Dyer

 

I agree with you on Pulis and Smith but the coaching staff obviously seem some potential in him

 

Gasmi is for the future perhaps?

 

Forecast was probably bought in for cover if Davis went.

 

So there maybe some good reasons why they were brought in

[Legod Third Coming]

The people who don't want Dowie want to think about where Palace were when he took over...

 

He was then given 13 games by Charlton - and that worked for them didn't it? After Curbishley's what ten years having got them relegated too!

 

And then he was fired by QPR when he started telling Briatore to stop picking the team...

 

Dowie, Boothroyd, Adams, Holloway - any of those know and understand this league and wouldn't cost compensation.

[egreog]

The terminology ........."light years away" comes to mind with this thread

[Give it to Ron]

The people who don't want Dowie want to think about where Palace were when he took over...

 

He was then given 13 games by Charlton - and that worked for them didn't it? After Curbishley's what ten years having got them relegated too!

 

And then he was fired by QPR when he started telling Briatore to stop picking the team...

 

Dowie, Boothroyd, Adams, Holloway - any of those know and understand this league and wouldn't cost compensation.

 

The same people that didnt want Coleman and Warnock probably and look where they are now.

[L1Minus10]

We are seriously lacking in depth, but with what we've got, there must be nearly a team of players good enough to compete at CCC level. A couple of quality additions and we could have a chance if we ditch this ridiculous coach and his addiction to a formation that doesn't work. Perhaps:

 

---------------------------Davis----------------------------

New RB----------Perry--------New CB--------------Skacel

Euell-------------Schneiderlin--Surman-------------Holmes

-----------------Saga---------Big goalscoring CF----------

 

Subs: Forecast, BWP, Lallana, young defender, young midfielder

 

Rudi would be better further forward, but I don't know how good this LB we've signed is. Euell is not ideal on the right, but I seem to remember he did ok out wide at the end of last season when NP got us bullying teams with strength and experience. If we had a decent RB who could overlap, it wouldn't matter so much, or if Dyer came back and started producing the form he is capable of.

Overall, we are a few quality additions away from being a team that should be able to compete at this level. What we need is a coach who knows how to get a team playing to win games.

 

you're not far away... I have a couple of issues.

 

Not sure about Holmes and surman and Schneiderlin in central midfield IMO are an abysmal pair as are too similar. Neither can defend and neither are the 'forward' type of midfielder.

 

So I say...

 

---------------------------Davis----------------------------

New RB----------Perry--------New CB--------------New LB

New RM-----------Schneiderlin--New 'Bastard' CM-----Skacel

-----------------Saga---------Big goalscoring CF----------

[sandwichsaint]

Not far away from being a good team, or simply re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic?

 

As much as any of it is about 'players' it's also about form, confidence, tactics, togetherness, self-belief. The majority of our players are beaten before they start, not necessarily their own fault but that's just the way it is.

 

Inconsistent and illogical selections, sticking rigidly to a 'plan A' that most people could see was flawed from day 1 (no decent centre-back pairing, no pace at full back or out wide, no creativity in the centre, and above all no striker!). We have a losing mentality from top to bottom and that's the way it is.

 

Just look at the 'dream team' above: KD no problems with that one, where do you start after that? Perry is decent on his day and gives 100%, but he's also prone to nightmare games and can't play the volume of games required. Skacel? half-decent in the way that a Ford Focus might be in a car park full of Nissan Micra's, but also half-arsed, he's completely wasted at LB, but would be worth a go further forward. New CH we can all agree on. Why drop Lloyd James who did OK again yesterday? He started the season awfully, like a lot of youngsters do, but he has progressively won me over; of all our youngsters he has comfortably the best improvement curve and could be the one to make it at this level (though prob not as a RB).

 

Centre-mids? And therein lies the rub as it has done pretty much since we stopped pairing Oakley with a.n.other. Surman? I admire his game and his commitment to staying here (!) but what's his best position? How many games does he need before he moves from being a 'youngster' to a 'guv'nor'? Spiderman? Massively disappointing so far, a few neat step overs and the occasionally-completed 50-yard Hollywood ball do not a CCC centre-mid make. How many games has he started? How many has he completed? How many has he missed in the comfort of the 'treatment' room? The white Vierra? Do me a favour: has anybody seen him make a tackle since he's been here?

 

Euell at RM, is this a wind-up? I thought he was excellent last year and in the current circumstances he would be in my team every game, but not on the RW surely? Holmes, a journeyman who didn't make it at Derby, has shown some promise at times but like all SFC midfielders seems to have an aversion to shooting, and a major allergy to actually scoring goals (career total of 1 or 2? if I'm not mistaken).

 

Up front I give you Saga (2-3 goals? in the last 18 months) and a.n.other. Not sure what rabbit we hope to conjure here, or what trinkets we hope to pay said saviour with, but on paper that looks about the best bit of the dream team.

 

Thank goodness you didn't put DMG in your 'nearly-good-enough-for-the-play-offs X1'; probably the worst Saints player I have seen in 40 years, 6 feet of unadulterated shy7e.

 

And there we have it: a team that with the right manager would have Wolves, Brum, Burnley, Reading, Palace and Cardiff quaking in their size 10's, NOT.

 

Sorry to rain on your parade but SFC and all who sail in her are royally fecked! How can we not fight yesterday? Gillingham are a team drawn almost exclusively from non-League and they gave most of Villa's first team a really chasing.

 

We need major surgery, not elastoplast.

 

New board!

New manager!!

New players!!!

NEW MONEY!!!!

 

We need league one (and probably L2) if we are ever to stop the rot.

 

 

When do Norwich tickets go on sale: I'm looking forward to it already!

[Big Ron fan]

The people who don't want Dowie want to think about where Palace were when he took over...

 

He was then given 13 games by Charlton - and that worked for them didn't it? After Curbishley's what ten years having got them relegated too!

 

And then he was fired by QPR when he started telling Briatore to stop picking the team...Dowie, Boothroyd, Adams, Holloway - any of those know and understand this league and wouldn't cost compensation.

 

Would obviously have a great relationship with Rupert then...

[um pahars]

IMHO I do think we are somewhat underperforming and that a manager with more nous than Jan would be getting more of out of the existing resources. I certainly don't think we have a strong enough squad to be pushing for the play offs, but I do think Jan has underperformed.

 

I also think a more astute manager would also have utilised what little money we had much better last summer.

 

So before we can think about having a decent team I would argue we first need a decent manager, then some astute signings and of course to oversee this change in strategy a more competent CEO

[Legod Third Coming]

Would obviously have a great relationship with Rupert then...

 

I don't think anyone in their right mind really believes ruddy-cheeks picks the team. He buys the players no question but then most chairmen do.

 

Where he is wrong is his overall strategy. Within it he probably operates no differently to 90% of chairmen.

[Legod Third Coming]

IMHO I do think we are somewhat underperforming and that a manager with more nous than Jan would be getting more of out of the existing resources. I certainly don't think we have a strong enough squad to be pushing for the play offs, but I do think Jan has underperformed.

 

I also think a more astute manager would also have utilised what little money we had much better last summer.

 

So before we can think about having a decent team I would argue we first need a decent manager, then some astute signings and of course to oversee this change in strategy a more competent CEO

 

 

To defend Jan it strikes me as more than coincidence that young players were better at the start of the season than they are now. Tiredness - physical and mental are taking their toll.

 

I also don't think he's had one iota of input into who we bought. As I've said before, he wouldn't have known whether Millwall was a football club or brick maker.

[L1Minus10]

 

I also don't think he's had one iota of input into who we bought. As I've said before, he wouldn't have known whether Millwall was a football club or brick maker.

 

Exactly, we have a manager who doesn't have the faintest ****ing idea about the English game. As UP says, first thing we need is a new manager. I mean, dowie has been mentioned and he's been a failure wherever he's been but he'd be miles better than the clown we have now.

[AndyNorthernSaints]

Everyone has known since the start of the season that we need a right back, left back, centre half and centre forward who can score goals. Everyone apart from the people running the club :-(

Jan stated recently that he had to play strikers out of position on the wing due to the lack of wingers. This after loaning out our only right winger with any first team experience?

My main concern apart from the lack of goals is Jan's lack of awareness of our defensive marking/positioning at set pieces that continues to cost us goals. He was after all an international defender who played in a world cup final. I'm starting to understand how he was nut megged by Archie Gemmel now.

[aintforever]

What actually do you mean knows the Championship

 

 

Scholari Ranieri etc surely did not know the Premiership

 

 

Keane at Sunderland did not know the Championship and I doubt whether Pearson knew the Championship or Div 1 either.

 

Pearson spent his career in all 3 top divisions with Shwesbury, Sheff Weds and Middlesboro. He won the League cup and Promotion to Division 1 with Wednesday as captain, also reached both cup finals in 1993. He also captained Middlesboro to promotion twice and captained them to 3 domestic cup finals.

[Thedelldays]

we are very far from being a good team..very far

 

I think a new manager would help the cause greatly but that is just me..

 

 

 

on another note, i see many are calling for a big lump at the back and a big lump upfront...exactly what the snobs on here did not want a few months back...

[um pahars]

To defend Jan it strikes me as more than coincidence that young players were better at the start of the season than they are now. Tiredness - physical and mental are taking their toll.

 

But then he should have been aware of that at the start of the season before he went down this route. Plenty of idiots on here pointed out that the youngsters aren't used to this number of games.

 

I also don't think he's had one iota of input into who we bought. As I've said before, he wouldn't have known whether Millwall was a football club or brick maker.

 

I do worry that he has not been given full control of all footballing affairs, whihc for me is a big concern. As we have seen at other clubs over here it has caused no end of problems, and it doesn't appear to be working fr us either.

[70's Mike]

What I was saying that Person performed OK without much knowledge of the Championship.

 

 

The main problem with JP is that he played at such a high standard and coached Dutch kids who are probably more technically gifted than ours.

 

big difference is that ALL DUTCH sides get the ball down and pass it all the time, the problem is the other nasty 23 sides in the CCC do not let us play that way .

actually not true , they do let us play that way between the 2 penalty boxes