Brexit - Post Match Reaction

[aintforever]

2 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

In the context of Soggy's post, yes.  Although for the record that is not the comparison he was making.

Ordinarily in other situations would depend on context.

So suggesting foreigners may not have a perfect grasp of English is racist now. Blimey, you snowflakes need to lighten up a bit.

Maybe you should add that to the dopey "things that are racist" thread.  

 

[sadoldgit]

2 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

See my original post where I stated it was probably unintentional.

Unintentional racism is, however, still racism.

You had better avoid the manager’s thread Weston. There is an awful lot “gingerism” going on there.

How exactly is it racist to make a point about poor use of English anyway? People make fun at other people’s attempt at foreign languages, or even there own, all the time. Sacha Baron Cohen has made a career out of it. Would you call him a racist? Face it. You were just desperate to have a dig. I think that most people with a few brain cells to rub together could see that I was poking fun at the poster (who claims to be smarter than the rest of us) and not his wife.

[sadoldgit]

3 minutes ago, aintforever said:

So suggesting foreigners may not have a perfect grasp of English is racist now. Blimey, you snowflakes need to lighten up a bit.

Maybe you should add that to the dopey "things that are racist" thread.  

 

It’s amazing isn’t it. The same people who got upset about BLM or players taking the knee are now calling out making light of not having the perfect use of a language as racism. I guess we have Donald Trump to thank for the fact that any form of attack is justifiable even if it makes you a steaming hypocrite in the process.

[Turkish]

8 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

You had better avoid the manager’s thread Weston. There is an awful lot “gingerism” going on there.

How exactly is it racist to make a point about poor use of English anyway? People make fun at other people’s attempt at foreign languages, or even there own, all the time. Sacha Baron Cohen has made a career out of it. Would you call him a racist? Face it. You were just desperate to have a dig. I think that most people with a few brain cells to rub together could see that I was poking fun at the poster (who claims to be smarter than the rest of us) and not his wife.

Can you explain what you meant then? Come on it really isn't hard. Rather than making ridiculous comparisons with you trying to speak Italian on holiday or making out your the Danny Dyer or Sacha Baron Cohen of the interweb why not just say what you really meant when you were having a pop at someones grammar by asking them if their asian wife had written the post.

Cant be that difficult, surely?

[Turkish]

1 minute ago, sadoldgit said:

It’s amazing isn’t it. The same people who got upset about BLM or players taking the knee are now calling out making light of not having the perfect use of a language as racism. I guess we have Donald Trump to thank for the fact that any form of attack is justifiable even if it makes you a steaming hypocrite in the process.

just explain what you meant, come on, stop being a coward. Those same people who were supposedly upset about taking the knee explained why they weren't supportive of it. Why cant you explain the comments you made that appear racist?

[sadoldgit]

18 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

No.

I called you a racist because you implied his Asian wife was shit at writing in English.

 

There are plenty of people who are “shit at writing English” on here too. So what? Can we not comment about them either? You know exactly the point I was making. It had nothing to do with his wife and everything to do with the poster. You just chose to ignore the obvious and turn it into something else. For all I know, his wife (if she exists as I still think this account is a wind up) has better English than I do. I’ll say it again and for the last time - the poster tells us that he is smarter than the rest of us yet his post was very badly written and not something you would expect from someone as “smart” as him. He previously brought his (alleged) Asian wife into the debate when using that as evidence that he is not racist. I get things that I post thrown back at me all the time. Funny that a few of you get so precious about this poster. Or are you just using him for your own purposes? I expect Turkish is getting bored with his long running spat with MLG and is desperate for fresh meat.

Edited 8 hours ago by sadoldgit

[Turkish]

12 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

There are plenty of people who are “shit at writing English” on here too. So what? Can we not comment about them either? You know exactly the point I was making. It had nothing to do with his wife and everything to do with the poster. You just chose to ignore the obvious and turn it into something else. For all I know, his wife (if she exists as I still think this account is a wind up) has better English than I do. I’ll say it again and for the last time - the poster tells us that he is smarter than the rest of us yet his post was very badly written and not something you would expect from someone as “smart” as him. He previously brought his (alleged) Asian wife into the debate when using that as evidence that he is not racist. I get things that I post thrown back at me all the time. Funny that a few of you get so precious about this poster. Or are you just using him for your own purposes? I expect Turkish is getting bored with his long running spat with MLG and is desperate for fresh meat.

All i am asking for is an explanation as to why you would think an Asian women was writing a post on behalf of a British man, when you were making derogatory comments about his use of English. It surely isn't that too hard to explain. Why, for example, did you not say did one of you kids write the post?

Edited 8 hours ago by Turkish

[Weston Super Saint]

32 minutes ago, aintforever said:

So suggesting foreigners may not have a perfect grasp of English is racist now. Blimey, you snowflakes need to lighten up a bit.

Maybe you should add that to the dopey "things that are racist" thread.  

 

Again, consider the context. Or don't if that's too tricky for you.

[Weston Super Saint]

30 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

 

How exactly is it racist to make a point about poor use of English anyway? .

Not knowing, or pretending not to know, doesn't make it better.

[Turkish]

46 minutes ago, aintforever said:

So suggesting foreigners may not have a perfect grasp of English is racist now. Blimey, you snowflakes need to lighten up a bit.

Maybe you should add that to the dopey "things that are racist" thread.  

 

I know you also struggle with English but you need to look at context as Weston has said.

Until SOG clears  it up then it seems that It was clearly a derogatory comment about use of English then with the suggestion that the posts might have been written by an Asian women. 

Rather than making out about being on holiday having spent 2 days on Duolingo trying to learn the language or are a comedy act on TV lets use a proper example. We know how hot you are on racism in the work place but imagine for a second you have message on your desk in badly worded English and you immediately looked at the Asian women on your bank of desks and said "the use of English here is terrible, did you write this?" what do you think those around you might think?

Edited 8 hours ago by Turkish

[Winnersaint]

20 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

Only from the usual suspects, Little Englanders, right wing media consumers and tribalists. Which of these are you?

None of the above, would have made similar points as you without slinging scattergun insults.

[Turkish]

54 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

It’s amazing isn’t it. The same people who got upset about BLM or players taking the knee are now calling out making light of not having the perfect use of a language as racism. I guess we have Donald Trump to thank for the fact that any form of attack is justifiable even if it makes you a steaming hypocrite in the process.

im seeing lots of excuses SOG. Lots of people shit at English, Sasha Baron Cohen (lol), you cant speak the local language very well when you're on holiday. Im seeing lots of playing it down, it wasn't about his wife, it was about the poster. Im seeing lots of defensive digs at other posters, oh but but you didn't like the BLM stuff, Turkish must be looking for a new arguement, Weston wont like the ginger comments. Classic deflective behaviour.

What im not seeing is a simple explanation as to why you thought an Asian women would be writing in bad English.  If you meant something perfectly innocent just say. What's the issue?

[sadoldgit]

18 minutes ago, Winnersaint said:

None of the above, would have made similar points as you without slinging scattergun insults.

Fair enough.

[sadoldgit]

45 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Not knowing, or pretending not to know, doesn't make it better.

That isn’t my point and I’m sure you know it.

You used to stalk me. Then you stalked Farmer. Is it my turn again?

[aintforever]

51 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Again, consider the context. Or don't if that's too tricky for you.

Yep fully understand the context, still not racist.

You carry on with your faux outrage though snowflake.  

[Weston Super Saint]

7 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

That isn’t my point and I’m sure you know it.

You used to stalk me. Then you stalked Farmer. Is it my turn again?

Stalked you.

Bless.

You really are quite narcissistic.

As Turkish has asked, several times, can you clear up the issue with why you asked why a man's Asian wife wrote his post for him because of the terrible English?

You've claimed there was no racist intent, so should be really easy to clear up instead of your constant deflection.

[Turkish]

 

SOG 

[Danbert]

I think the point about Brexit, is that although we now have the freedom to cut these nascent deals without the EUs sayso, we would be able to negotiate much better terms as part of the European Union because we would be part of a much larger market.

[Lord Duckhunter]

2 hours ago, Turkish said:

you were having a pop at someones grammar by asking them if their asian wife had written the post.

At least he didn’t  call her a coconut this time, so he’s getting better

[east-stand-nic]

2 hours ago, Turkish said:

im seeing lots of excuses SOG. Lots of people shit at English, Sasha Baron Cohen (lol), you cant speak the local language very well when you're on holiday. Im seeing lots of playing it down, it wasn't about his wife, it was about the poster. Im seeing lots of defensive digs at other posters, oh but but you didn't like the BLM stuff, Turkish must be looking for a new arguement, Weston wont like the ginger comments. Classic deflective behaviour.

What im not seeing is a simple explanation as to why you thought an Asian women would be writing in bad English.  If you meant something perfectly innocent just say. What's the issue?

He is quite clearly racist. That much has been clear for a very long time.