Donald Trump Appreciation Thread

[sadoldgit]

Wow!

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/maga-supporter-kills-his-own-daughter-after-debate-about-trump/ar-AA1W5DNk?cvid=731e77e0816f48c8f41534b2ab1bf3df&ocid=hpmsn

[badgerx16]

20 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Wow!

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/maga-supporter-kills-his-own-daughter-after-debate-about-trump/ar-AA1W5DNk?cvid=731e77e0816f48c8f41534b2ab1bf3df&ocid=hpmsn

If only she had had a gun as well.........

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, egg said: 

In related news,  the downturn in the Nasdaq and stagnation of the other US markets is in stark contrast to the Japanese market. That loss of trust in the US is irreversible. 

Yep, American pretty much can be referred to as a former superpower now, same as Russia. Both nations are still powerful but China is the only superpower in town.

[Willo of Whiteley]

Pam Bondi (US AG) being ripped to shreds in today’s deposition.

Lied under oath several times and been caught out along the way.

Edited Wednesday at 18:40 by Willo of Whiteley

[Sheaf Saint]

10 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

Wow!

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/maga-supporter-kills-his-own-daughter-after-debate-about-trump/ar-AA1W5DNk?cvid=731e77e0816f48c8f41534b2ab1bf3df&ocid=hpmsn

Probably belongs more in the "What is wrong with America?" thread than this one.

The fact that they argued over Trump is largely irrelevant. But the notion that in Texas you can be drunk in charge of a firearm and 'accidentally' kill someone with it without facing any kind of criminal trial is just fucking insane.

[badgerx16]

Going bak to Trump's comment on Bad Bunny, "I didn't understand a word of what he was saying", presumably he has never been to the Opera.

[Wiggles31]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0zdd7yl4vo
 

Another catastrophic decision made. Really makes it feel rather pointless washing out a jar to recycle it. 

[badgerx16]

2 hours ago, Wiggles31 said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0zdd7yl4vo
 

Another catastrophic decision made. Really makes it feel rather pointless washing out a jar to recycle it. 

The stupid thing is, when a Democrat hecomes the next President he/she can just turn things back 180 degrees and reinstate the sane position.

Who would have thought that appointing a panel of strongly climate sceptic "experts" to review the evidence would lead to a conclusion that the established position is a "scam"?

Edited yesterday at 07:43 by badgerx16

[Farmer Saint]

7 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

The stupid thing is, when a Democrat hecomes the next President he/she can just turn things back 180 degrees and reinstate the sane position.

Who would have thought that appointing a panel of strongly climate sceptic "experts" to review the evidence would lead to a conclusion that the established position is a "scam"?

What I find really odd is that they won't be able to export their cars to Canada, Mexico etc without those emissions limits, so the R&D will still have to continue and prices will still stay high. There are no real savings available here.

[badgerx16]

ICE now picking up abd detaining Ukrainian refugees in the US.

[Sir Ralph]

Good on Rubio. Calling out the decline of the west again and said they won’t be custodians of managed decline. Doing Europeans leaders job for them

Edited 7 hours ago by Sir Ralph

[badgerx16]

14 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

Good on Rubio. Calling out the decline of the west again and said they won’t be custodians of managed decline. Doing Europeans leaders job for them

You're really proud to be British aren't you.

[Sir Ralph]

8 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

You're really proud to be British aren't you.

I don’t want to say it, but not at the moment. I used to be but agree with him about managed decline. There are some things to be proud of but fewer than there were.

Edited 7 hours ago by Sir Ralph

[whelk]

18 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

I don’t want to say it, but not at the moment. I used to be but agree with him about managed decline. There are some things to be proud of but fewer than there were.

I bet you are scared in London

[sadoldgit]

1 hour ago, Sir Ralph said:

Good on Rubio. Calling out the decline of the west again and said they won’t be custodians of managed decline. Doing Europeans leaders job for them

And nowhere is the decline more apparent than in the USA.

[aintforever]

1 hour ago, Sir Ralph said:

I don’t want to say it, but not at the moment. I used to be but agree with him about managed decline. There are some things to be proud of but fewer than there were.

What like?

[Sir Ralph]

13 minutes ago, aintforever said:

What like?

In my opinion a Lack of encouragement for business growth and a positive business environment, increase in growth of the state and state intervention, key institutions becoming woke and promoting these ideologies, increased reliance of the population on welfare to start with. Being proud of the heritage or tradition of your country is something that, till recently, was something that many of the supposed metropolitan elite would sneer at. Hopefully we are at some form of turning point though but we will have to see. 

Edited 5 hours ago by Sir Ralph

[Sir Ralph]

24 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

And nowhere is the decline more apparent than in the USA.

Says you as an American citizen. 

[tdmickey3]

2 hours ago, Sir Ralph said:

I don’t want to say it, but not at the moment. I used to be but agree with him about managed decline. There are some things to be proud of but fewer than there were.

You should go to Dubai, its great over there apparently 

[Sir Ralph]

8 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

You should go to Dubai, its great over there apparently 

I suppose if you benefit from a ballooning state and welfare budget this is the type of comment you would make.

Edited 5 hours ago by Sir Ralph

[CB Fry]

2 hours ago, Sir Ralph said:

I don’t want to say it, but not at the moment. I used to be but agree with him about managed decline. There are some things to be proud of but fewer than there were.

Apparently you're not allowed to say Happy Christmas anymore

[aintforever]

9 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

In my opinion a Lack of encouragement for business growth and a positive business environment, increase in growth of the state and state intervention, key institutions becoming woke and promoting these ideologies, increased reliance of the population on welfare to start with. Being proud of the heritage or tradition of your country is something that, till recently, was something that many of the supposed metropolitan elite would sneer at. Hopefully we are at some form of turning point though but we will have to see. 

In my opinion our welfare state is something we should all be proud of, taking care of societies most vulnerable is something a good country does. It obviously has its faults but historically it is something the UK should be proud of.

[Sir Ralph]

2 minutes ago, aintforever said:

In my opinion our welfare state is something we should all be proud of, taking care of societies most vulnerable is something a good country does. It obviously has its faults but historically it is something the UK should be proud of.

In principle it’s needed but in my opinion nowhere near the extent that it is now. It’s created in some a mentality of reliance on the state which is not healthy for them or tax payers and negatively impacts overall productivity 

Edited 5 hours ago by Sir Ralph

[aintforever]

6 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

In principle it’s needed but in my opinion nowhere near the extent that it is now. It’s created in some a mentality of reliance on the state which is not healthy for them or tax payers and negatively impacts overall productivity 

I don’t necessarily disagree but you should still be proud of a county that takes care of the most vulnerable. There are plenty of places around the World that don’t, it’s pure luck that we were born in a place as great as the UK that does.

[Sir Ralph]

11 minutes ago, aintforever said:

I don’t necessarily disagree but you should still be proud of a county that takes care of the most vulnerable. There are plenty of places around the World that don’t, it’s pure luck that we were born in a place as great as the UK that does.

Like I said there are some things to be proud of but what I perceive to be the decline over the last 20 years which is what my concern is and what I am becoming less proud of. Do you think the country has declined in the last 20 years or so?

i also agree we should count our blessing and how lucky we are in some respects. However I don’t want my kids to be raised in a country that has declined over recent years. It’s incumbent on us to make sure they have similar opportunities 

Edited 4 hours ago by Sir Ralph

[aintforever]

43 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

Like I said there are some things to be proud of but what I perceive to be the decline over the last 20 years which is what my concern is and what I am becoming less proud of. Do you think the country has declined in the last 20 years or so?

i also agree we should count our blessing and how lucky we are in some respects. However I don’t want my kids to be raised in a country that has declined over recent years. It’s incumbent on us to make sure they have similar opportunities 

Of course there is plenty that is worse now than 20 years ago, plenty that is better as well. What I am most proud of about the country (our values of compassion, tolerance, fairness, freedom and democracy) hasn’t really changed though. 

[Sir Ralph]

38 minutes ago, aintforever said:

Of course there is plenty that is worse now than 20 years ago, plenty that is better as well. What I am most proud of about the country (our values of compassion, tolerance, fairness, freedom and democracy) hasn’t really changed though. 

Being tolerant is again in principle a good thing. Being tolerant of certain ideologies is, in my opinion, naive and damaging, particularly where discourse about the acceptablility of those ideologies is shut down. This is where tolerance has been taken to an extreme. This is where we may diverge but that’s fine. 

Edited 3 hours ago by Sir Ralph

[Farmer Saint]

2 hours ago, Sir Ralph said:

In my opinion a Lack of encouragement for business growth and a positive business environment, increase in growth of the state and state intervention, key institutions becoming woke and promoting these ideologies, increased reliance of the population on welfare to start with. Being proud of the heritage or tradition of your country is something that, till recently, was something that many of the supposed metropolitan elite would sneer at. Hopefully we are at some form of turning point though but we will have to see. 

What encouragement for business growth would you like to see?

[Sheaf Saint]

2 hours ago, Sir Ralph said:

a Lack of encouragement for business growth and a positive business environment

This appears to be based on nothing more than your intrinsic dislike for Labour and the age-old Tory attack line of them being "anti-business", rather than any actual facts.

I work for a regulatory body and, believe me, this government is going to great lengths to try and reduce regulatory burden and stimulate economic growth. Whether or not their efforts will succeed remains to be seen, but to suggest they are not encouraging growth is completely false.

[whelk]

2 hours ago, Sir Ralph said:

In principle it’s needed but in my opinion nowhere near the extent that it is now. It’s created in some a mentality of reliance on the state which is not healthy for them or tax payers and negatively impacts overall productivity 

A lot of benefit is paid to people who work but get minimum wage and topped up by the govt. Likes of Mike Ashley can sell cheap trainers cos he pays his workers fuck all. Good for growth eh

 

[Sir Ralph]

1 hour ago, Sheaf Saint said:

This appears to be based on nothing more than your intrinsic dislike for Labour and the age-old Tory attack line of them being "anti-business", rather than any actual facts.

I work for a regulatory body and, believe me, this government is going to great lengths to try and reduce regulatory burden and stimulate economic growth. Whether or not their efforts will succeed remains to be seen, but to suggest they are not encouraging growth is completely false.

I didn’t mention Labour. You said that. I made a non political party statement. The decline is also not just business related in my personal opinion 

This is a cross party failure over the past twenty years. I agree that Labour are trying to reduce regulation to encourage business in part but have contradicted themselves in other parts by increasing taxes on business and business owners to fund increased state and welfare spending, thereby increasing the attractiveness for investment and reducing it in other parts.
 

As I said, I didn’t mention Labour speciifically it’s a cross party failure that has allowed the decline

Edited 1 hour ago by Sir Ralph

[Sir Ralph]

1 hour ago, whelk said:

A lot of benefit is paid to people who work but get minimum wage and topped up by the govt. Likes of Mike Ashley can sell cheap trainers cos he pays his workers fuck all. Good for growth eh

 

Welfare helps some people that need it, such as the example you referred to, but it’s gone too far and supports people who abuse it and don’t want to work. The increase in welfare benefit is a move in the wrong direction. In this forum my view may be in the minority but in normal circles it is well publicised so not a controversial one and an approach that a number of well supported political parties will be promoting as they are voted for by hard working tax payers. A successful economy does not allow welfare reliance for certain parts of society to occur to this extent, hence the reference to decline in this respect. Obviously it’s fine for us to disagree on his point.

Edited 54 minutes ago by Sir Ralph

[tdmickey3]

4 hours ago, Sir Ralph said:

I suppose if you benefit from a ballooning state and welfare budget this is the type of comment you would make.

😂