What Is Happening To Our Country?

[Turkish]

9 minutes ago, bpsaint said:

Did you see the mass vigils from the loony left a couple of days ago for Arday? Blaming whites and anyone else that they can for his death, rather than admit his lack of accountability for all of his bullshit lead to his suicide. Mental. 

Fortunately not although I did see two videos from Kaur on her way to and at the vigil which must have needed dozens of takes to make sure she looked sad faced enough in the camera and expressed enough faux grief about how heart broken she was about it but the made it about herself and how she’s had to try 100 times harder than everyone else and still not fit in which is of course the racist societies fault not hers for being a bellend 

[Farmer Saint]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DcOsMq7ElEl/?igsh=bTI3d2NwYXVsbGFn

I wonder who this guy is voting for at the next election..?

[Farmer Saint]

Going back to illegal immigration, I think laws/tests need to be updated to be more stringent, but also we need to be able to apply from overseas, and have a good reason for applying to the UK. They need to make it clear that asylum seekers who come over via illegal channels will not be allowed to claim asylum. They will be held and sent back to country of origin.

Edited 12 hours ago by Farmer Saint

[Farmer Saint]

If only Morocco had those leaflets for British migrants...

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16064581/Missing-British-gold-medal-winning-sprinter-Moroccan-prison-sexually-assaulting-minor.html

 

[Gloucester Saint]

2 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

Going back to illegal immigration, I think laws/tests need to be updated to be more stringent, but also we need to be able to apply from overseas, and have a good reason for applying to the UK. They need to make it clear that asylum seekers who come over via illegal channels will not be allowed to claim asylum. They will be held and sent back to country of origin.

10000000% this, legal routes to be brought back but made clear those who come in small boats or lorries are straight out after cursory and health checks.

[Turkish]

Now Andy Burnham has said that middle class areas will have to do their bit taking immigrants I wonder if these types who have applauded immigration for years because it doesn’t effect them will have a different view when 1500 immigrants are suddenly dumped on their doorstep in their leafy, white, middle class town

[whelk]

4 hours ago, bpsaint said:

Did you see the mass vigils from the loony left a couple of days ago for Arday? Blaming whites and anyone else that they can for his death, rather than admit his lack of accountability for all of his bullshit lead to his suicide. Mental. 

Takes a special sort of cunt to get wound up over a vigil for someone who has died

[Gloucester Saint]

17 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Now Andy Burnham has said that middle class areas will have to do their bit taking immigrants I wonder if these types who have applauded immigration for years because it doesn’t effect them will have a different view when 1500 immigrants are suddenly dumped on their doorstep in their leafy, white, middle class town

Asylum seekers are a certain and distinctive category of immigration. Cities with major hospitals and universities have skilled professional immigrants ‘dumped’ on their doorstep for years and appeared to be doing well from it.

Most people bar a very small segment on the far left headed by Polanski (getting smaller poll by poll) want the small boats or blokes hiding in lorries, or vape shops. Genuinely helping skilled and decent people escape a war via legal routes, as I did with Ukrainians who are now living in the Midlands, earning money, paying tax and contributing to our society until they can return home - that being a subjective term because the Russians bombed the shit of their village. 

I make no apologies for doing it either. 

Edited 9 hours ago by Gloucester Saint

[Winnersaint]

Arguably the leaflet is as much for home consumption as it is for asylum seekers/irregular migrants. A performative stunt on behave of the Govt?

[whelk]

25 minutes ago, Winnersaint said:

Arguably the leaflet is as much for home consumption as it is for asylum seekers/irregular migrants. A performative stunt on behave of the Govt?

I hope the leaflet also has something about the importance of queuing?

[badgerx16]

4 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

Going back to illegal immigration, I think laws/tests need to be updated to be more stringent, but also we need to be able to apply from overseas, and have a good reason for applying to the UK. They need to make it clear that asylum seekers who come over via illegal channels will not be allowed to claim asylum. They will be held and sent back to country of origin.

Active war zones ?

[bpsaint]

2 hours ago, whelk said:

Takes a special sort of cunt to get wound up over a vigil for someone who has died

Didn’t get wound up about it so calm yourself. It’s the reasoning behind the vigil, and the bullshit claims of racism from the usual suspects as to why he topped himself, whilst conveniently ignoring his huge list of bullshit lies that lead to his downfall.

 

Just wondered why they turn out en masse for the likes of Arday and that POS George Floyd, yet are silent for Henry Nowak, Anne Widdecombe or Iryna Zarutska.

Edited 7 hours ago by bpsaint

[Sir Ralph]

 

 

[Turkish]

 

an admission of failure and admission of danger 

how do the government now respond to those who expressed concern at this and were called little Englanders and racist? 

Well said isn’t it

Edited 6 hours ago by Turkish

[Sir Ralph]

11 minutes ago, Turkish said:

 

an admission of failure and admission of danger 

how do the government now respond to those who expressed concern at this and were called little Englanders and racist? 

Well said isn’t it

Yes maybe us “little englanders” have a point.

Edited 6 hours ago by Sir Ralph

[Weston Super Saint]

1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

Active war zones ?

It's a bit harsh to send all of them there, especially if they've come from peaceful countries, but hey, if it works as a deterrent then all good I suppose.

[Weston Super Saint]

Could we borrow from Sharia Law?  Get caught stealing, lop off a hand.  Get caught stalking, lop off a bollock, get caught raping, off with his knob?  

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, bpsaint said:

 

Just wondered why they turn out en masse for the likes of Arday and that POS George Floyd, yet are silent for Henry Nowak, Anne Widdecombe or Iryna Zarutska.

Didn’t really see anything on the third person, but Widdecombe and Nowak there was large scale sadness and mourning. As I’m getting sick of typing, I met Anne Widdecombe, liked her and expressed sadness at the time, not that I need to justify it. Colleague of mine met her, their political views are totally different yet they sent each other Christmas cards every year.

Re: Nowak, we were all sickened by the murder and actions of the perp and his revolting family. Difference is that we didn’t need to resorting to sniffing Tommy’s arse and throwing the people of Southampton’s recycling bins around like a tattooed Carling-quaffing yob.

Get away from X, Brietbart, Telegram, there’s a real world out there 

[Farmer Saint]

4 hours ago, Turkish said:

Now Andy Burnham has said that middle class areas will have to do their bit taking immigrants I wonder if these types who have applauded immigration for years because it doesn’t effect them will have a different view when 1500 immigrants are suddenly dumped on their doorstep in their leafy, white, middle class town

What, you mean like Crowborough? Very good case study there.

 

[Farmer Saint]

2 hours ago, whelk said:

I hope the leaflet also has something about the importance of queuing?

That's in the Bonnie Blue section.

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, Farmer Saint said:

That's in the Bonnie Blue section.

https://www.attitude.co.uk/culture/onlyfans-jak-white-doesnt-know-fathered-bonnie-blue-baby-515223/

[Gloucester Saint]

2 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Could we borrow from Sharia Law?  Get caught stealing, lop off a hand.  Get caught stalking, lop off a bollock, get caught raping, off with his knob?  

Lorraine Bobbitt extended the offence of adultery to the latter punishment famously. Must have been a Q’aran follower on the quiet.

[The Kraken]

3 hours ago, bpsaint said:

Just wondered why they turn out en masse for the likes of Arday and that POS George Floyd, yet are silent for Henry Nowak, Anne Widdecombe or Iryna Zarutska.

 

1 hour ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Re: Nowak, we were all sickened by the murder and actions of the perp and his revolting family. Difference is that we didn’t need to resorting to sniffing Tommy’s arse and throwing the people of Southampton’s recycling bins around like a tattooed Carling-quaffing yob.

Get away from X, Brietbart, Telegram, there’s a real world out there 

Yep. Said it time and again, anyone who has to resort to the language of “they”, “lefties”, “far right” etc typically, in my experience, goes on to show a fundamental lack of any knowledge of what they’re talking about. This bp lad is another in line that does nothing to reverse my opinion. Just a complete inability to realise that almost all people agree on the problem source, just have different ideas on the best way to counter it. Howling at the moon about it and getting angry online about the lefties is the new cliche.

[Gloucester Saint]

2 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

 

Yep. Said it time and again, anyone who has to resort to the language of “they”, “lefties”, “far right” etc typically, in my experience, goes on to show a fundamental lack of any knowledge of what they’re talking about. This bp lad is another in line that does nothing to reverse my opinion. Just a complete inability to realise that almost all people agree on the problem source, just have different ideas on the best way to counter it. Howling at the moon about it and getting angry online about the lefties is the new cliche.

And Soggy, understandably, got panned on here for doing the same. 

BP, and a couple of more longer-standing posters as you say displaying the same behaviours and it deserves to be called out. 

[Turkish]

With 10,000 foreign national currently in UK prisons that might be a good place to start. 

[Gloucester Saint]

7 minutes ago, Turkish said:

With 10,000 foreign national currently in UK prisons that might be a good place to start. 

Which is why these changes were made so deportations can happen much earlier into their sentence portions than previously https://www.gov.uk/government/news/foreign-prisoners-to-be-deported-sooner

Some of the 10k figure - a relatively high % - are actually on remand though so it’s not as if there could be a mass ICE style kick out in one go. That said, as we saw recently, economic and other sanctions/levers (legitimate visas suspended) can be used to force nations to receive returns.

And there’s a definitely a cross-political and ideological opposition to paying for foreign nationals clogging up the prisons system.

Edited 3 hours ago by Gloucester Saint

[bpsaint]

1 hour ago, The Kraken said:

 

Yep. Said it time and again, anyone who has to resort to the language of “they”, “lefties”, “far right” etc typically, in my experience, goes on to show a fundamental lack of any knowledge of what they’re talking about. This bp lad is another in line that does nothing to reverse my opinion. Just a complete inability to realise that almost all people agree on the problem source, just have different ideas on the best way to counter it. Howling at the moon about it and getting angry online about the lefties is the new cliche.

Don’t know why you’re so triggered about the terms leftie or left wing. It’s a fact the left and their all are welcome ideology regarding immigration, open border mindsets, and socialist beliefs that non natives absolutely take the piss out of have contributed to the invasion of this country. Perhaps you’re one of those that think “taxing the rich” is the answer to all our problems. But sure, go on about my lack of knowledge because my opinion on the decline of the UK differs to yours. 

[Farmer Saint]

15 minutes ago, bpsaint said:

Don’t know why you’re so triggered about the terms leftie or left wing. It’s a fact the left and their all are welcome ideology regarding immigration, open border mindsets, and socialist beliefs that non natives absolutely take the piss out of have contributed to the invasion of this country. Perhaps you’re one of those that think “taxing the rich” is the answer to all our problems. But sure, go on about my lack of knowledge because my opinion on the decline of the UK differs to yours. 

Good to see the use of the word "fact" there, when it is anything but.

[The Kraken]

32 minutes ago, bpsaint said:

Don’t know why you’re so triggered about the terms leftie or left wing. It’s a fact the left and their all are welcome ideology regarding immigration, open border mindsets, and socialist beliefs that non natives absolutely take the piss out of have contributed to the invasion of this country. Perhaps you’re one of those that think “taxing the rich” is the answer to all our problems. But sure, go on about my lack of knowledge because my opinion on the decline of the UK differs to yours. 

Thanks for proving my point. Entirely.

[whelk]

BP needs to meet up with Osvaldo for a fun night out barking at the world and everything that makes them so angry, and dare I say frightened 

[bpsaint]

5 minutes ago, whelk said:

BP needs to meet up with Osvaldo for a fun night out barking at the world and everything that makes them so angry, and dare I say frightened 

Good shout, we can have a right old moan about the state of the uk and wankers like yourself that seem happy to watch it go to shit whilst deriding anyone that dare speak out against it.

[tdmickey3]

3 minutes ago, bpsaint said:

Good shout, we can have a right old moan about the state of the uk and wankers like yourself that seem happy to watch it go to shit whilst deriding anyone that dare speak out against it.

Woof woof

[Sir Ralph]

30 minutes ago, bpsaint said:

Good shout, we can have a right old moan about the state of the uk and wankers like yourself that seem happy to watch it go to shit whilst deriding anyone that dare speak out against it.

I would like to be invited too.

[Turkish]

5 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Could we borrow from Sharia Law?  Get caught stealing, lop off a hand.  Get caught stalking, lop off a bollock, get caught raping, off with his knob?  

No need. We’re going to train the new comers not to be rapists and nonces. Imagine how much they’ve developed as people just by reading that document. Phase two of don’t stab, steal or attack people must minding their own business will tell ‘um!

[Turkish]

39 minutes ago, whelk said:

BP needs to meet up with Osvaldo for a fun night out barking at the world and everything that makes them so angry, and dare I say frightened 

He actually makes some decent points just because some don’t like them

[Sir Ralph]

1 hour ago, bpsaint said:

Don’t know why you’re so triggered about the terms leftie or left wing. It’s a fact the left and their all are welcome ideology regarding immigration, open border mindsets, and socialist beliefs that non natives absolutely take the piss out of have contributed to the invasion of this country. Perhaps you’re one of those that think “taxing the rich” is the answer to all our problems. But sure, go on about my lack of knowledge because my opinion on the decline of the UK differs to yours. 

You must have missed the part of the thread where some on here who have a different view believe they are 'centrists', which appears to provide some form of self justification that their views are balanced and more considered than others. 

Edited 29 minutes ago by Sir Ralph

[Farmer Saint]

31 minutes ago, bpsaint said:

Good shout, we can have a right old moan about the state of the uk and wankers like yourself that seem happy to watch it go to shit whilst deriding anyone that dare speak out against it.

The reason it has gone to shit is due to what happened in 2010 and 2016, austerity and Brexit. I presume you voted for Brexit? Easiest way to stop illegal immigrants is to rejoin the EU and invoke the Dublin Agreement. It's the reason this only became an issue post 2018.

[aintforever]

1 hour ago, bpsaint said:

Don’t know why you’re so triggered about the terms leftie or left wing. It’s a fact the left and their all are welcome ideology regarding immigration, open border mindsets, and socialist beliefs that non natives absolutely take the piss out of have contributed to the invasion of this country.

Except literally no one with that ideology has been in government since the small boat problem started after Brexit.

Keep howling though, it’s all rather funny.

[badgerx16]

1 hour ago, bpsaint said:

Don’t know why you’re so triggered about the terms leftie or left wing. It’s a fact the left and their all are welcome ideology regarding immigration, open border mindsets, and socialist beliefs that non natives absolutely take the piss out of have contributed to the invasion of this country.

Over the last 20 years, how many immigrants entered the UK whilst we had Tory / coalition Governments ? ( That is 14 of the 20 years ).

Edited 11 minutes ago by badgerx16

[Sir Ralph]

Just now, badgerx16 said:

Over the last 20 years, how many immigrants entered the UK whilst we had Tory / coalition Governments ?

And those on the left challenged various policies that those governments tried to introduce to minimise / disincentivise illegal immigration such as the the Rwanda scheme, use of military barracks for accommodation, turn back of migrant boats and I think removing appeal rights. These challenges were typically by left wing MPs, human rights lawyers, unions, civil rights groups, etc, which hindered government.