What Is Happening To Our Country?

[whelk]

5 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

East Stand Nic having a bit of a melt down?

He gets beaten up so bad and a bit cruel as he is not the brightest. Did you know he has been on a plane more than five times?

He has spaffed his post quota now so emojis from now on 

Edited 6 hours ago by whelk

[tdmickey3]

7 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

East Stand Nic having a bit of a melt down?

I wish the wanker was a subscribed member and we could ridicule the lying prick some more 

[egg]

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjr0lx7n0y3o

That'll cheer a few people up. 

[whelk]

1 hour ago, egg said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjr0lx7n0y3o

That'll cheer a few people up. 

Makes sense and no idea why not been set in motion a long time ago. Reality of the situation means we need to upgrade our infrastructure to tackle

[hypochondriac]

1 hour ago, egg said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjr0lx7n0y3o

That'll cheer a few people up. 

Good. Mad this wasn't done earlier tbh but credit for actually doing it now. Edit: although there's no security so they can come and go as they please which is another big problem. 

Edited 5 hours ago by hypochondriac

[Farmer Saint]

6 minutes ago, whelk said:

Makes sense and no idea why not been set in motion a long time ago. Reality of the situation means we need to upgrade our infrastructure to tackle

Really close to me FFS  #fuckingnimbys

[tdmickey3]

12 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Good. Mad this wasn't done earlier tbh but credit for actually doing it now. Edit: although there's no security so they can come and go as they please which is another big problem. 

Where did it say no security, i must have missed it?

I read this 

He said there would have to be sufficient engagement with local authorities and adequate security arrangements in place. "Those conversations have been going on for some time now," he added.

[egg]

39 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Good. Mad this wasn't done earlier tbh but credit for actually doing it now. Edit: although there's no security so they can come and go as they please which is another big problem. 

There are discussions taking place about security arrangements. People aren't being detained though, they're being accommodated, so people will come and go. 

Am I sensing that the messaging has morphed from no more expensive hotels, to accommodate these people on army bases, to detain then? 

[egg]

34 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

Where did it say no security, i must have missed it?

I read this 

He said there would have to be sufficient engagement with local authorities and adequate security arrangements in place. "Those conversations have been going on for some time now," he added.

I think his point is that people will be allowed freedom of movement. 

[whelk]

5 minutes ago, egg said:

There are discussions taking place about security arrangements. People aren't being detained though, they're being accommodated, so people will come and go. 

Am I sensing that the messaging has morphed from no more expensive hotels, to accommodate these people on army bases, to detain then? 

I have no problem detaining them until we establish their future status. Old adage but if you don’t like it, don’t come.

[whelk]

51 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Really close to me FFS  #fuckingnimbys

Cheap farm labour?

[egg]

4 minutes ago, whelk said:

I have no problem detaining them until we establish their future status. Old adage but if you don’t like it, don’t come.

I struggle with the idea of essentially imprisoning people. House them in a facility where basic needs are provided for by all means though. 

[AlexLaw76]

How long before we see outrage because of the state of said accommodation, when it was good enough for squadies (in many cases) not that long ago.

Edited 4 hours ago by AlexLaw76

[ChrisPY]

4 hours ago, east-stand-nic said:

 

Lived here 6 years, work for two very large charity groups. I know what happens in family homes, rich and poor and they have much much higher levels of respect for families and far greater hatred toward pedo types etc. The UK government activity promotes pedo stuff and gives them dishwater weak punishments when they are caught. over here you will be dead within a year if caught. 

 

Do you happen to have any experience of those living in Thailand and not being caught?

[Farmer Saint]

1 hour ago, whelk said:

Cheap farm labour?

Ooh, never thought of that - becomes appealing...

[Farmer Saint]

1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said:

How long before we see outrage because of the state of said accommodation, when it was good enough for squadies (in many cases) not that long ago.

Let's wait and see shall we. No need to invent things to become annoyed about yet.

[hypochondriac]

11 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Let's wait and see shall we. No need to invent things to become annoyed about yet.

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 It's almost as if paedo's, nonces and criminals come in all creeds and colours, and not just Pakistani Muslims as some people would have you think.

 

Agreed.

[Lord Duckhunter]

1 hour ago, egg said:

struggle with the idea of essentially imprisoning people.

Why? 
 

If they’re entering the country illegally, they’re committing an offence. If they don’t want to be detained, perhaps they should stay in a safe country, like France…

[Farmer Saint]

41 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

 

Agreed.

What you on about? You have called the grooming gangs Pakistani Grooming Gangs multiple times. It just turns out that maybe we should be investigating other grooming gangs as well. Don't let that blind you in your hatred of all things brown and Muslim.

[LuckyNumber7]

2 hours ago, egg said:

There are discussions taking place about security arrangements. People aren't being detained though, they're being accommodated, so people will come and go. 

Am I sensing that the messaging has morphed from no more expensive hotels, to accommodate these people on army bases, to detain then? 

They certainly should be detained until they're either granted or refused asylum.

Some of them are bloody dangerous, and they shouldn't be allowed to just wander about and potentially disappear.

[hypochondriac]

48 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

What you on about? You have called the grooming gangs Pakistani Grooming Gangs multiple times. It just turns out that maybe we should be investigating other grooming gangs as well. Don't let that blind you in your hatred of all things brown and Muslim.

You think that highlighting cases of Pakistani rape gangs and the fears of victims that expanding the original remit of the investigations will dilute the focus on these particular types of cases (which make up the majority of cases) and the fact that many of the girls were abused in large part because they were white and English with a religious component involved means that I think that paedos, nonces and criminals are ONLY Pakistani Muslims? 

That's the precise opposite of what I think. Besides, the link you posted is about a grooming gang that involves exploitation of children so that part of the investigation would already be covered in any investigation into grooming gangs- which is what has been asked for- with no need to expand the terms. 

Failing to investigate this specific offence of grooming gangs and the motivations behind it for fear of being perceived as racist is what has allowed this to go on for so long. 

Edited 1 hour ago by hypochondriac

[hypochondriac]

2 hours ago, egg said:

I struggle with the idea of essentially imprisoning people. House them in a facility where basic needs are provided for by all means though. 

I struggle with the idea of allowing unknown threats including potential rapists, paedophiles, terrorists etc to roam the streets of Britain. Neither option is great, the first option is infinitely preferable to the second. 

Edited 1 hour ago by hypochondriac

[AlexLaw76]

Just a usual largely peaceful triple stabbing by a friendly Afghani 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ypkd57n97o.amp

[tdmickey3]

5 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Just a usual largely peaceful triple stabbing by a friendly Afghani 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ypkd57n97o.amp

Just a largely stupid post

[AlexLaw76]

2 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

Just a largely stupid post

I agree, using the term “largely peaceful” in the context of violence is ridiculous. 
 

No doubt the suspect will be easily identifiable as someone who either should not be here, or came over on a dinghy (even both).

 

[Turkish]

10 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

I agree, using the term “largely peaceful” in the context of violence is ridiculous. 
 

No doubt the suspect will be easily identifiable as someone who either should not be here, or came over on a dinghy (even both).

 

DId you know you're more likely to be stabbed by a British person than an illegal immigrant?