Carlos Alcaraz

[West end Saints]

I liked him and had flashes where he showed ability and tried things others wouldn't.

I liked his character and enjoyed watching him.

However, it wasn't him being adventurous which slowed his progress it was misplaced easy passes, mistimed tackles etc.

He is still young and there is a player in there, but he isn't one that I feel we have lost out on.

The RM argument fails when you see how a younger adventurous midfielder, who likes driving forward and passing forward has done so much better - in higher league, and worse team Fernandes showed more than CA.

As he gets older, more experienced he may well be a regular starter, rather than odd exciting  flashes.

I have no idea whether we pushed him out or he wanted out but we have lost dozens of better players.

[pimpin4rizeal]

21 hours ago, West end Saints said:

I liked him and had flashes where he showed ability and tried things others wouldn't.

I liked his character and enjoyed watching him.

However, it wasn't him being adventurous which slowed his progress it was misplaced easy passes, mistimed tackles etc.

He is still young and there is a player in there, but he isn't one that I feel we have lost out on.

The RM argument fails when you see how a younger adventurous midfielder, who likes driving forward and passing forward has done so much better - in higher league, and worse team Fernandes showed more than CA.

As he gets older, more experienced he may well be a regular starter, rather than odd exciting  flashes.

I have no idea whether we pushed him out or he wanted out but we have lost dozens of better players.

Even though you  talk like he was way worse then fernandes, both times alcaraz has played prem football his goals and assists have been equal or better in half the amount of games . I think there’s an argument for alcaraz being the more impactful player 

[West end Saints]

2 hours ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Even though you  talk like he was way worse then fernandes, both times alcaraz has played prem football his goals and assists have been equal or better in half the amount of games . I think there’s an argument for alcaraz being the more impactful player 

I think we are half agreeing - CA does at times make an impact (in better sides tho) , but MF offers more,all round play and less like to have a brain fart and pass to the wrong team

[kwsaint]

The latest video from Southampton has a clear Lucozade bottle.

A quick chat to Gemini confirms who the next signing is:

https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/carlos-alcaraz-drinks-from-a-lucozade-bottle-during-a-news-photo/1457100941

[St. Ciervo]

I like the CoT angle being taken here. 

But for fun... I mean, 20 appearances with nothing to show for it... Could it really happen? Perhaps. I would be happy with it.

[Sheaf Saint]

Dragan did say he has authorised the signing of a top player to compete with Azaz for the no. 10 role.

Charly said he loved it here, and he's not getting the game time he would have liked at Everton (6 starts and 14 sub appearances last season).

Let's light the fire of this rumour and turn it into a self-fulfilling prophecy.

[sfc4prem]

Can we change this thread name (we all know he'll come back at some point) to Charlie Alcaraz.

I keep thinking it's a really irrelevant tennis thread on the Saints forum!

[JohnnyShearer2.0]

Decent player. Don't think Moyes is getting the best out of him at Everton. 

[ally_uk]

If the deal was right I'd take him back. 

[Lighthouse]

I’ll pass thanks. Looked poor in the Championship last time and has done nothing at Juve or Everton to suggest any improvement. His whole reputation is propped up by four goals in 2023.

 

[Badger]

24 minutes ago, JohnnyShearer2.0 said:

Decent player. Don't think Moyes is getting the best out of him at Everton. 

Where have I read that before about Moyes ?

Perhaps there might be other loan options from them (that might be in the back of Dragan’s mind). Not so sure myself, but if anyone can bring the best out of a player, Tonda can. 

[sockeye]

Never go back to an ex.

[sfc4prem]

3 minutes ago, sockeye said:

Never go back to an ex.

What about Chaplow? 

[Badger]

10 minutes ago, sfc4prem said:

What about Chaplow? 

And years ago, both Mick Channon and Alan Ball. 

[trousers]

2 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

I’ll pass thanks. Looked poor in the Championship last time and has done nothing at Juve or Everton to suggest any improvement. His whole reputation is propped up by four goals in 2023.

 

If only we now had a manager that was able to get a tune out of "mediocre championship players"...

#wotnotongueincheekemoji? 

Edited 11 hours ago by trousers

[RedArmy]

2 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

I’ll pass thanks. Looked poor in the Championship last time 

 

Out of position.