The Reform Thread

[Turkish]

21 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

I genuinely feel sorry for you Duckie. You think that a random bloke on the internet is lying to you yet you believed everything Nigel Farage told you about Brexit. You’d be absolutely useless on The Traitors.

Here’s another one that will upset you. I didn’t mention it before as it doesn’t involve being particularly bright. A guy in the year below me had a long career playing centre half for Charlton. He marked Ted MacDougall when they hammered us 6-2 at The Valley (in torrential rain as I remember) and also played in the reverse fixture when we beat them 3-1 at The Dell.

He was a solid player at school but nothing special. There were certainly two or three players better so it was a surprise when he turned pro. 

Fuck me they want to send scientists down to your school to see what the secret is. A who’s who of 70s and 80s superheroes came from that gene pool. I predict a Netflix drama on the South London postcode which breeds legends.  Kind of the opposite of Stranger Things where every person that gets touched gets super powers . No wonder you’re so bitter all your old “mates” smashing it out the park whilst you’ve ended up being a joke figure on football forums 

Edited February 2 by Turkish

[Holmes_and_Watson]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

Fuck me they want to send scientists down to your school to see what the secret is. A who’s who of 70s and 80s superheroes came from that gene pool. I predict a Netflix drama on the South London postcode which breeds legends.  Kind of the opposite of Stranger Things where every person that gets touched gets super powers . No wonder you’re so bitter all your old “mates” smashing it out the park whilst you’ve ended up being a joke figure on football forums 

I know SOG won't consider it crime of the century. But if anyone at your school says that if they touch you, you'll get superpowers, then report them to a teacher or the police.

If it's a teacher or a visiting member of the police that's said it to you, then go to someone more moral to help you report it. Like a priest.

[benjii]

So, 2 Reform MPs accidentally voted the wrong way on the 2 child benefit cap vote, and Farage couldn't be arsed to turn up. 

These wankers couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery, have no serious policies, have links to dodgy foreign funding and plenty of connections to Epstein, and still some people think they are a credible choice for government.

THEY THINK YOU'RE A FUCKING MUG!

[badgerx16]

27 minutes ago, benjii said:

 

THEY THINK YOU'RE A FUCKING MUG!

They're counting on it.

[benjii]

 

 

[sadoldgit]

The Labour Party have just aired a party political broadcast. The whole thing focussed on attacking Reform.

[Gloucester Saint]

7 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

The Labour Party have just aired a party political broadcast. The whole thing focussed on attacking Reform.

Pointless as Saints last season, because 80-90% of the switchers are Tories and the so-called Labour switchers are mostly disgruntled Boris voters from 2019. Sums up Labour lack of strategy. 

[Weston Super Saint]

9 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

The Labour Party have just aired a party political broadcast. The whole thing focussed on attacking Reform.

Did you write it?

[badgerx16]

1 minute ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Did you write it?

One of his mates from the lunch club at the pub wrote it.

[Gloucester Saint]

7 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

One of his mates from the lunch club at the pub wrote it.

Prolific is Peter Duncan. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

4 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Did you write it?

Just keeping his hand in, while he works on a sequel to The Who's Tommy.

[tdmickey3]

 

[sadoldgit]

16 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Did you write it?

You say that as if it a bad thing.

[Saint86]

2 hours ago, tdmickey3 said:

 

As shocking as this revelation may be, this narrative is not the way to win votes - this is the way to alienate a decent portion of the electorate and ensure. Parties like Labour, the greens, lib dems etc, will never win these votes if they run around constantly painting them all as thick racists 🤦‍♂️. The tories may get some of them back purely because they aren't doing this and may instead manage to persuade some of them that they're a good choice again.... Maybe... but I can't see it being that significant a number tbh - this lot are basically the forgotten left behind demographic, and they are Reform's as it stands.

What people seem to utterly gloss over, is that an awful lot of Reform voters are traditional Labour voters - they look at what happened between 2019 and 2024, on that specific 5 year timeframe, but the larger picture is more interesting - alot of reform voters that "went from the conservatives to reform" are the so called "red wall" voters that in 2019 leant their vote to Johnson rather than Corbym... at the last GE they didn't vote tory, but they certainly didn't go back to Labour either... they've gone to Reform. And unlike the last GE, they're no longer seen as a protest vote - they are the most popular party in large parts of the country. Alongside that, the tories have bled votes to general apathy and often to the lib dems in the south and south west.

But honestly, the reality is that unless something changes drastically, i struggled to see next the general election as anything other than reform as the largest party. Labour are going to get punished - people everywhere and in all walks of life are just utterly sick of them. The greens are broadly viewed by everyone to the right of them as far left, and the lib dems have elected not to really capitalise at all on the implosion of the two main parties and have a leader who runs around doing comedy stunts for kids and giving out ice creams as his version of 'serious politics'. The only question in my mind, will be whether tactical voting leads to a whitewash or a hung parliament - and that goes across all 5-6main parties (greens/labour/libs/tories/reform - and then SNP/PC). Are things going to get better under this Labour government, or worse? 

 

Edited Thursday at 12:18 by Saint86

[Gloucester Saint]

2 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

As shocking as this revelation may be, this narrative is not the way to win votes - this is the way to alienate a decent portion of the electorate and ensure. Parties like Labour, the greens, lib dems etc, will never win these votes if they run around constantly painting them all as thick racists 🤦‍♂️. The tories may get some of them back. Maybe... but I can't see it being that significant tbh.

What people seem to utterly gloss over, is that an awful lot of Reform voters are traditional Labour voters - they look at what happened between 2019 and 2024, on that specific 5 year timeframe, but the larger picture is more interesting - alot of reform voters that "went from the conservatives to reform" are the so called "red wall" voters that in 2019 leant their vote to Johnson rather than Corbym... at the last GE they didn't vote tory, but they certainly didn't go back to Labour either... they've gone to Reform. And unlike the last GE, they're no longer seen as a protest vote - they are the most popular party in large parts of the country. Alongside that, the tories have bled votes to general apathy and often to the lib dems in the south and south west.

 

I usually agree with your posts but the data doesn’t (yet - but has potential to change) support this about Labour switchers to Reform. Reform, unless they radically change their economic policies, will struggle to make some of those you mention formalise their switch in the ballot box at a GE https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/tory-voters-jumping-to-reform-biggest-switchers

[Weston Super Saint]

5 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

You say that as if it a bad thing.

I say that because you're obsessed.

[sadoldgit]

More dodgy dealings by Reform?

https://manchestermill.co.uk/exclusive-reform-uk-just-broke-electoral-law-in-gorton-denton/

[sadoldgit]

And more false claims…

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/feb/07/reform-run-kent-council-accused-of-fabricating-40m-net-zero-savings

[badgerx16]

2 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

And more false claims…

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/feb/07/reform-run-kent-council-accused-of-fabricating-40m-net-zero-savings

Of course, Rachel Reeves has never done anything like this, nor any Tory Chancellor.

[Turkish]

Debating society bans debate 😂😂

[Gloucester Saint]

Whilst I don’t agree with Reform UK, I certainly don’t agree with the no platforming from Bangor’s Student debating society there either. 

[sadoldgit]

On 07/02/2026 at 19:04, badgerx16 said:

Of course, Rachel Reeves has never done anything like this, nor any Tory Chancellor.

The difference being that Reform UK say that they aren’t like the other parties and say look at Kent CC to see how they will change things for the better.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

Debating society bans debate 😂😂

They are indeed master debaters. 🙂

[badgerx16]

44 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

The difference being that Reform UK say that they aren’t like the other parties and say look at Kent CC to see how they will change things for the better.

Then again, Labour said that things had changed now that "the adults are in the room".

[sadoldgit]

6 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Then again, Labour said that things had changed now that "the adults are in the room".

Adults make mistakes too.

[badgerx16]

21 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Adults make mistakes too.

The schools are full of them.

[Turkish]

9 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

Adults make mistakes too.

 

[iansums]

12 hours ago, Turkish said:

Debating society bans debate 😂😂

It really is pathetic.

[sadoldgit]

What is pathetic? Keeping hate out of universities?

I don’t agree though that they were banned. Get them on the stage and show how despicable they are through debate and argument. 

[Turkish]

3 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

What is pathetic? Keeping hate out of universities?

I don’t agree though that they were banned. Get them on the stage and show how despicable they are through debate and argument. 

A debating society doesn't want a debate with people they dont agree with. It isnt that hard to understand is it? Although obviously given you're the same mindset i guess it must be.

[iansums]

30 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

What is pathetic? Keeping hate out of universities?

I don’t agree though that they were banned. Get them on the stage and show how despicable they are through debate and argument. 

Well done, you've answered your own question. If the students think they know better, then debate with Reform. Whether they or you like it or not, they're a legimate party with (currently) huge popularity.

[whelk]

51 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

What is pathetic? Keeping hate out of universities?

You’d wet your pants if it was an Islamic preacher. Universities have a history of being pathetic at assuming students cannot hear alternative views. 

[sadoldgit]

41 minutes ago, whelk said:

You’d wet your pants if it was an Islamic preacher. Universities have a history of being pathetic at assuming students cannot hear alternative views. 

Why would I? I wouldn’t have a problem with an Islamic representative talking about religion anywhere. Are you referring to someone preaching hate based on their religious beliefs which is something completely different?

I said that Reform should not be banned so really don’t know what your problem is.

[sadoldgit]

1 hour ago, iansums said:

Well done, you've answered your own question. If the students think they know better, then debate with Reform. Whether they or you like it or not, they're a legimate party with (currently) huge popularity.

What I don’t like is that many people who say they support them don’t seem to understand what they stand for. For example it is well understood by people who have followed Farage’s career that he is racist. Somehow you don’t see that.

You say the ban is “pathetic” but would you be happy with some of the people who have been thrown out of Reform for clear race hate comments on that platform? If Reform didn’t attract so many deeply unpleasant people with deeply abhorrent views to their ranks maybe they wouldn’t have this problem.

Again, as some people don’t seem able to understand English. I don’t agree with the ban myself.

Incidently, I have seen Reform representatives totally embarrassed in debates with University students so I don’t understand the ban.

 

Edited 13 hours ago by sadoldgit

[badgerx16]

1 minute ago, sadoldgit said:

What I don’t like is that many people who say they support them don’t seem to understand what they stand for. 

What do they stand for ?

[whelk]

14 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Why would I? I wouldn’t have a problem with an Islamic representative talking about religion anywhere. Are you referring to someone preaching hate based on their religious beliefs which is something completely different?

I said that Reform should not be banned so really don’t know what your problem is.

What about the tolerance of homosexuality? I am making the point that you turn a blind eye to some areas and get hysterical about others eg Reform

 

[sadoldgit]

1 minute ago, whelk said:

What about the tolerance of homosexuality? I am making the point that you turn a blind eye to some areas and get hysterical about others eg Reform

 

What about the tolerance of homosexuality? Why should that be a problem?

[sadoldgit]

9 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

What do they stand for ?

I’m sure you don’t need me to tell you.

[badgerx16]

2 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

I’m sure you don’t need me to tell you.

But what is it that they stand for that their supporters don't understand. Perhaps those people DO understand, whatever it is, and are usppy that they have a party with an ideology they can identify with.

[badgerx16]

12 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

What about the tolerance of homosexuality? Why should that be a problem?

It is to these people

[whelk]

3 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

It is to these people

And many Muslims. Wonder which ones will get SOG more agitated?

[badgerx16]

6 minutes ago, whelk said:

And many Muslims. Wonder which ones will get SOG more agitated?

I can't work out frm that picture what sort of belt buckles they are wearing.

[hypochondriac]

47 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Why would I? I wouldn’t have a problem with an Islamic representative talking about religion anywhere. Are you referring to someone preaching hate based on their religious beliefs which is something completely different?

I said that Reform should not be banned so really don’t know what your problem is.

You said it wasn't pathetic to ban speakers because you disagree with their opinions. It quite obviously is. 

[sadoldgit]

19 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

But what is it that they stand for that their supporters don't understand. Perhaps those people DO understand, whatever it is, and are usppy that they have a party with an ideology they can identify with.

Oh, I see. I was trying to be generous. For example, we have a Reform supporter here who seems oblivious to Farage’s racist background. I have upset a couple of people on here in the past when assuming people who support others who are clearly racist share their views.

[sadoldgit]

4 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

I can't work out frm that picture what sort of belt buckles they are wearing.

Do they have an image of Farage on them?

[hypochondriac]

1 minute ago, sadoldgit said:

Oh, I see. I was trying to be generous. For example, we have a Reform supporter here who seems oblivious to Farage’s racist background. I have upset a couple of people on here in the past when assuming people who support others who are clearly racist share their views.

You accused others including me of being Tommy Robinson and Katie Hopkins supporters based on nothing. 

[sadoldgit]

12 minutes ago, whelk said:

And many Muslims. Wonder which ones will get SOG more agitated?

You are the one who is agitated. I’m not sure what about though. Are you upset because I agree that Reform shouldn’t be banned from a Univetsity debate?

[hypochondriac]

1 minute ago, sadoldgit said:

You are the one who is agitated. I’m not sure what about though. Are you upset because I agree that Reform shouldn’t be banned from a Univetsity debate?

You questioned why it was pathetic and described it as "keeping hate out of Universities" which suggested a level of support for the idea that you should ban speakers from people you disagree with politically. In other words a child's idea of debating. 

[whelk]

5 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Are you upset because I agree that Reform shouldn’t be banned from a Univetsity debate?

 

2 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

What is pathetic? Keeping hate out of universities?

All over the place and not exactly believing in the tenets of free speech

[iansums]

22 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Oh, I see. I was trying to be generous. For example, we have a Reform supporter here who seems oblivious to Farage’s racist background. I have upset a couple of people on here in the past when assuming people who support others who are clearly racist share their views.

Which poster are you referring to?